Showing posts with label Wang. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Wang. Show all posts

04 March 2013

Do the Orioles have the 4th worst farm system in baseball?

Victor Wang, I assume, is a pretty smart guy.  He began to break out on the sabermetric scene when he was 16 years old, worked his writing and analytical skills for a few years, joined the Cleveland Indians, and is now the Assistant Director of Professional Scouting.  He is one of the guys made good.  One of many, many baseball analysts who have presented their work on forums, blogs, and journals and then wound up employed in Major League Baseball.  While the mainstream has been arguing the value of modern qualitative and quantitative measures against traditional qualitative and quantitative measures, baseball moves along slowly, but surely.  Success (or perceived success) produces mimicry and we now have a flooded market of front office analytical types that seem to greatly benefit their teams.

Back to Victor Wang and, perhaps one area where analytics seem to have some trouble, the valuation of minor league systems.  The August 2007 edition of the Sabermetric newsletter, By the Numbers, included a piece by Wang where he attempted to measure the value of prospects.  The idea was to use established sources, Baseball America's top 100 prospects and John Sickels' yearly prospect grades, to determine not only the likelihood of production by being a recognized prospect, but also how much money that meant to the team in control of said prospect.  This article had a great deal of fanfare attached to it as we could then use his work to calculate how productive a team's minor league system might be.

This is quite an important concept because by changing over the murky qualitative expressions of how good certain prospects are, even the most attentive follower of baseball can be overwhelmed of the scouting process and their myriad determinations of a player's current and future worth.  The confusion is a good reason why so much white noise has been generated in the past five years or so with everyone trying to generate prospect rankings and scouting reports that are often based on a few sources (e.g., Baseball America, Baseball Prospectus, Keith Law, John Sickels).

There is nothing inherently wrong with a freelance blogger trying to figure out the scouting game.  Former writer, often podcast guest, and friend of the Depot, Nick Faleris (now with Baseball Prospectus) made his way from forum evaluator to Camden Depot writer to BP writer through great skill and sheer determination in a way that was very transparent.  That transparency is something I think is essential and was the main reason why Nick and I eschewed our forum handles on this site a few years back.  That transparency in process and in identity is important when the audience is trying to gauge the utility of the information.  It is a major reason why I tend to ignore (and probably you should, too) prospect sites that simply give lists or short evaluations without any description of the process or clear identification of the contributors.

So, in this prospect evaluation fog, Wang's work appeared to be a possible light house to lead the way to some concept of reality.  By using trusted sources, with clear track records and some semblance of methodological explanation, you could determine just how good your team's best prospects likely were and what the whole system could mean to the success of the parent club.  Beyond the Box Score was one of a few who used the system to devise a way to express organizational worth back in 2009.  I was not able to find any more recent, so either this one off was do to simple lack of future interest or it may well be that the crew at BtBS determined that maybe there were issues using Wang's work in this manner.

If you read the article in By the Numbers (do it now if you have not), his conclusions were basically that prospects are worth a lot and that position players are more likely to achieve a higher level of performance.  What it does not say is that position players are worth more than pitchers.  How can one player perform better and not be worth more than another player?  Scarcity.  If one players is part of a population that is needed, but has a higher rate of failure, then that player may still be worth the same or more than another player who is part of a group that has a much lower level of failure.  Though the 2009 thoughts of Wang seem to indicate that he did not follow this perspective at some point in time.

Anyway, these are not exactly new sentiments here at Camden Depot.  I have addressed, somewhat briefly and quite clumsily, this approach on two occasions.  In 2009, I used it to assess the 2008 draft and how the Orioles' and the Camden Depot Shadow Orioles' drafts differed from what I suggested would have been an approach more in line with what Wang suggested.  That is it is more effective to build with elite hitting prospects and second tier pitching prospects.  Wang's paper showed that a top 100 hitter performed better than a top 100 pitcher.  However, a Sickels' B level, non-Baseball America top 100 pitcher performed better than the categorically equivalent hitter.  This meant that a draft consisting of 1B Justin Smoak, RHP Tim Melville, and LHP Tim Murphy would have trumped the actual draft of LHP Brian Matusz, OF Xavier Avery, and OF L.J. Hoes.  I think we can all agree that the actual Orioles draft has been superior.  Although, one comparison does not prove the Orioles having taken the right approach just that their approach appears far more useful in this single instance.

A year later, I wrote about the approach again on the Depot.  It was spawned from a reader who asked me to comment on an evaluation similar to Beyond the Box Score's evaluation that appeared as a fan post on John Sickels' Minor League Ball.  In my response, I attempted to articulate what I mentioned before: scarcity.  People certainly like to overstate TINSTAAPP (There Is No Such Thing As A Pitching Prospect).  However, it is not like we can simply ignore pitchers and simply expect the baseball to find its own way from the mound to home plate within the vicinity of the strike zone.  Pitchers simply are a frustrating necessity in that teams must put in a great deal of effort (just as much as acquiring and developing a hitter), but wind up with considerably more failure (reviewing 2004 data for prospects I found that 44% of ranked pitching prospects suffer significant career altering injuries within 6 years of being ranked versus 14% for position players).  That scarcity to me means that even though pitchers are likely to produce less value than a hitter, pitchers are worth more than their production would seem to suggest given this methodology.

With that said, I created the following graph using an adjusted methodology from the initial paper.  The changes simply are accounting for the increase in free agent salaries and collapsing price differences between C level prospects and their age.  The latter change was simply one that I felt would vastly speed up my analysis and would not greatly alter the final tallies.

The following is the organizational values for each team based on the 2013 top 100 prospects ranking from Baseball America, the prospect grades assigned by John Sickels, and using the adjusted Wang methodology.

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As expected, teams that are deep in positional talent (e.g. Minnesota with Miguel Sano, Byron Buxton, and Oswaldo Arcia) are valued much higher than those who have considerable pitching talent (e.g., Baltimore with Dylan Bundy and Kevin Gausman).  Additionally, teams with incredibly deep B level reserves of pitching (e.g., Tampa Bay) are valued much higher than teams with shallower systems (e.g., Baltimore).  Again, this methodology would place great importance on elite positional prospects as well as teams with deep second tier pitching prospects.

As mentioned earlier, I find this approach does not adequately consider scarcity.  In response, I decided to multiply pitching prospect worth by a coefficient to reduce the effect of injury flameout.  To equate the two groups, I multiplied pitching prospect worth by 1.55.  This is not a perfect methodology as it assumes that our ability to assess the future impact of pitchers and position players are equivalent.  Nor does it more greatly define scarcity.  To summarize, this is simply an injury adjustment.

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There is a slight readjustment in organizational value by measuring in this way.  For instance, Baltimore received more credit for having two elite pitching prospects, but the shallow nature of their system works against them from jumping ahead too far with them placing 25th instead of 27th.  The team that moved forward the most were the Atlanta Braves who had five B level pitching prospects and two pitchers ranked in the top 100.  San Diego went from 10th to 6th based on seven B level pitchers and two top 100 ranked pitchers.  Both the Chicago Cubs and the Detroit Tigers fell back five slots due to their positional heavy systems.

As it stands, I do not think that the second graph is the "reality" of organizational value, but it does provide a decent starting point to address other potential issues in order to harmonize the statistical perspective and the way in which Baseball America, John Sickels, and others (including MLB) values prospects.  Some have suggested that teams like Baltimore are being unfairly labeled as a mid to low quality minor league system because of the supposed value of having two potential aces on the farm.  This small effort in this post does not reconcile that view with what various publications have been reporting.

As it stands, I think we are still limited in our knowledge about the true value of these players.  Simple evaluation of the success of past prospects is inadequate in determining the true value of players because position scarcity plays a major role in that value.  Future studies need to more completely define that scarcity to determine if, in fact, there is a significant population of MLB teams that inadequate evaluate their players in a way that other teams could exploit.

22 January 2010

Cost Efficiency of Pitchers and Hitters in the Free Market

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Yesterday I posted an analysis on organizational rankings using John Sickels' grades (AL, NL) and the Wang methodology to determine worth. In that column, I wrote my suspicion that Wang underestimated the value of pitching prospects about half of what they are truly worth. The basis of that thought was how free agent pitchers are typically a rather poor buy in comparison to free agent hitters (which was rather anecdotal) and that ranking systems and trades seem to view positional and pitching prospects somewhat similarly. Why would this matter? Buying free agent pitching may be so inefficient that having a stable of young pitching prospects may be twice as valuable even though they have a low success rate.

Upon that idea, I decided to engage in a quick study analyzing the cost efficiency of free agent pitchers and position players. It is all after the jump.


Method:
Players included in this study were all individuals that received more than 5MM in total salary signed in the 2007 off season (pitchers, n=26; positional players, n=34; t-test, alpha=0.05). Players with contracts longer than three years only had salary earnings to this point included meaning that the only seasons addressed in this study are the 2007, 2008, and 2009 seasons. Five pitchers and seven positional players are still under contract with more total money devoted to the positional players. This means the numbers presented here are still dynamic. Metrics used were MM/WAR and WAR/MM (to avoid issues with 0 WAR players. Cost efficiency based on previous WAR production was derived from information at fangraphs.

Results and discussion:
Cost efficiency was significantly higher (p=0.03) in the positional players (0.20 WAR/MM; 0.04 SE) in comparison to pitchers (0.092 WAR/MM; 0.026 SE). Both of these means are less than the rates by which they were paid (0.24 WAR/MM). This is to be expected as players are typically paid with respect to what they have accomplished as opposed to what they will accomplish. Some risk management is utilized, but the team with the most optimistic projection or the team who is positioned competitively to more greatly value wins will likely succeed in signing the player. Another way to look at this information is by MM/WAR, which is the typical way this information is expressed. For instance, pitchers from 2006 have wound up getting paid 10.66MM per WAR. Positional players, on the other hand, have earned 5.46MM per WAR.

After taking into consideration that several contracts have yet to end, it appears unlikely that the findings presented here would change greatly. We would expect though that the cost efficiency for both populations would decrease more. Based on projections of a 0.5 WAR decrease for every remaining season under contract, we see a reduction for pitching cost efficiency from 0.092 WAR/MM to 0.089 WAR/MM and for positional players a decrease from 0.20 WAR/MM to 0.19 WAR/MM.

Conclusion:
In no way is this a conclusive piece of research. It is just a simple study used a somewhat small data set. The preliminary indications are that the system has already taken into account the free market cost to acquiring a pitcher versus growing your own. Pitchers are 53% less cost efficient than batters. In Wang's valuing of prospects, he has batter worth 49% more based on a weighted average of the top 100 prospects as ranked by Baseball America. If this is true, it casts doubt on how many try to use the Wang methodology to determine organizational worth. Wang's work appears to be best suited in comparing absolute worth of two different players outside of the pressures of the free market talent available to teams . . . more or less a closed system only considering MLB projection of MiL talent.

UPDATE: How would this change the prospect rankings?
Well, one way to do it would be to multiply the prospect worth as designated by the Wang approach by the factor difference between the the cost efficiency of pitchers and positional players. There are probably better ways, but this is a quick way to do it. Using this approach, pitching prospect values would be multiplied by 1.93 (using the WAR/MM numbers). The following would be organizational worth of the top 20 pitchers in each organization.

1. Rays
2. Rangers
3. Indians
4. Braves
5. Giants
6. Angels
7. Royals
8. Athletics
9. Dodgers
10. Brewers
11. Orioles
12. BoSox
13. Cubs
14. Rockies
15. Mets
16. Tigers
17. Reds
18. Padres
19. Pirates
20. Blue Jays
21. Astros
22. Nationals
23. Yankees
24. Marlins
25. Twins
26. Mariners
27. Cardinals
28. Phillies
29. ChiSox
30. Dbacks

Of the three lists I have shown in the past two days . . . this one actually looks the best to me.

21 January 2010

Minor League Rankings (thoughts on the Wang Methodology)

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I was emailed at the Sun Board about this post by dougdirt over at Minor League Ball (John Sickels' blog - rankings: AL, NL). The numbers seems a bit screwy to me even when taking into consideration how Wang's methodology views pitching prospects. To clarify, I think Wang's methodology undervalues pitchers because of their injury incidence. You see Wang's values are a product of how well a positional or pitching prospect, ranked at a certain level, does after that point in time. There is more variation in pitchers than hitters in large part as a result of a higher incidence of performance affecting injury. That could lead to the erroneous (in my opinion) conclusion that hitters are worth more than pitchers. I disagree with that because it forgets the other end of the equation.

You see, pitching performance is a volatile commodity. It means that a pitching prospect is quite a risky venture. It also means that a free agent pitcher is also a risky venture. By focusing on pitching prospects, your cost efficiency (cost per run given/earned) will be less than if you ignored pitching prospects and focused on drafting or acquiring hitting prospects. In that regard, I think Wang undervalues the cost savings of pitching prospects. If the system was closed and free agency had no relationship to payroll, then I would say these numbers would be valuable.

Regardless, I decided to take Wang's numbers and run them my own way using the spreadsheet dougdirt came up with (click here to see post with table). All of that after the jump.


I figured the best way to compare different teams was to only look on their top 20 prospects. Dougdirt did not do this. He focused instead on C+ prospects and above. This means that some teams did not receive credit for having C level prospects. I think this unfairly devalues the system and ruins the spectrum for comparison. C level prospects do have value as Wang himself noted. I did not feel like going back through my database, so I assumed that summed prospect totals less than 20 prospects would be filled with C level guys worth 1MM, which is roughly the middle point between hitting and pitching prospects at the C grade.

Here are the rankings I came up with using the modified Wang method:
1. Cleveland Indians 127.1MM
2. Oakland Athletics 124.1MM
3. Tampa Bay Rays 122.7MM
4. Atlanta Braves 117.6MM
5. Texas Rangers 111.3MM
6. San Francisco Giants 111.1MM
7. Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim 107MM
8. Chicago Cubs 106.8MM
9. Milwaukee Brewers 103.6MM
10. New York Mets 100.6MM
11. Boston Red Sox 99.7MM
12. Cincinatti Reds 96.4MM
13. San Diego Padres 95.4MM
14. Kansas City Royals 93.7MM
15. Los Angeles Dodgers 92.3MM
16. Detroit Tigers 91.1MM
17. Pittsburgh Pirates 90.7MM
18. Baltimore Orioles 86.2MM
19. Florida Marlins 83.5MM
20. Toronto Blue Jays 81.6MM
21. New York Yankees 81MM
22. Washington Nationals 80.3MM
23. Colorado Rockies 78.5MM
24. Houston Astros 77.3MM
25. Seattle Mariners 72.6MM
26. Minnesota Twins 69.8MM
27. Chicago White Sox 54.5MM
28. Philadelphia Phillies 54.3MM
--. St. Louis Cardinals 54.3MM
30. Arizona Diamondbacks 48.5MM

The rankings somewhat pass the smell test, but I do think Wang's method undervalues the true worth of developing your own pitching. Taking that into consideration, I decided that we should make hitting and pitching prospects worth the same. This assumption is defined as saying that the loss of production in terms of performance volatility is canceled out by the benefit in not having to rely on the free market cost of pitching. Under these guidelines the list would be:

1. Texas Rangers 146.5MM
2. Tampa Bay Rays 144.2MM
3. Cleveland Indians 125.8MM
4. Atlanta Braves 121.9MM
5. San Francisco Giants 117.5MM
6. Oakland Athletics 116.4MM
7. Baltimore Orioles 111.8MM
8. Chicago Cubs 108.7MM
9. Cincinnati Reds 107MM
10. New York Mets 106.8MM
11. Boston Red Sox 106.4MM
12. Washington Nationals 106MM
13. San Diego Padres 104.8MM
--. Detroit Tigers 104.8MM
15. Kansas City Royals 104.4MM
16. Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim 104.1MM
17. Los Angeles Dodgers 102.5MM
18. Milwaukee Brewers 100.2MM
19. Colorado Rockies 94.4MM
20. Toronto Blue Jays 92.8MM
21. Florida Marlins 91MM
22. Pittsburgh Pirates 93.4MM
23. Houston Astros 78.4MM
24. New York Yankees 77.2MM
25. Seattle Mariners 72MM
26. Minnesota Twins 64MM
27. Chicago White Sox 62.4MM
28. St. Louis Cardinals 53.5MM
29. Philadelphia Phillies 50MM
30. Arizona Diamondbacks 47.3MM

These rankings actually look more accurate to me. It would be nice to see something a little more quantitative than just assuming that the market has figured itself out, but I have no time for that right now. An interesting note here, if Brian Matusz did not qualify for prospect status, the Orioles would have sunk to the 24th ranked system in baseball. This is pretty similar to the argument last year with Matt Wieters.

The Orioles have been pretty lucky to basically make up for the underlying talent. Next year will be another big test on the organizational pipeline. Potential A talent could come in the form of Josh Bell, Zach Britton . . . maybe Snyder, but I doubt it. I imagine the team will have several B and B+ players next year, but no As.