tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post8301265933736161110..comments2024-01-06T02:22:33.000-05:00Comments on Camden Depot: Arrivals and Departures (02/21/14): Jimenez Was Plan FJon Shepherdhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-6168755514946263482014-02-22T01:41:12.832-05:002014-02-22T01:41:12.832-05:00I do not agree with the premise that the Orioles f...I do not agree with the premise that the Orioles front office should be criticized for not being able to "execute the plan". With that logic, if the Orioles had done whatever it took to outbid the Giants for Hudson, it would have been a success, if Hudson was their plan A. Also, I disagree with the implied criticism of the Orioles for not attempting to sign any of the "elite" players. Masahiro Tanaka, Robinson Cano, Jacoby Ellsbury, Shin Soo Choo, and Brian McCann all signed contracts that will likely end up on lists of "bad contracts" in a couple years.Jim D.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-5451383914212724762014-02-21T20:32:15.153-05:002014-02-21T20:32:15.153-05:00For more quantitative analysis, read the links inc...For more quantitative analysis, read the links included in the article.<br /><br />This post is a process argument, which is a common feature on this site. Quantitative analysis does not exactly fit in this specific piece.<br /><br />I am not sure what gives the loopy and weird vibe. Maybe it is a reflection of the peculiar path the front office has taken this off season.Jon Shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-53563065378222527842014-02-21T20:11:01.198-05:002014-02-21T20:11:01.198-05:00Eh, I think the Red Sox last year are a pretty goo...Eh, I think the Red Sox last year are a pretty good counterpoint to your "hot dogs and caviar" (stars and scrubs by another name?) style of team-building. They feasted on middle-tier free agents last offseason.<br /><br />Also, what the heck was up with the tone of this article? Totally loopy and weird. I agree with Jeremy in that I usually really enjoy the writing here but this was light on actual analysis and comes across as pretty goofy. It did seem like something you would read in The Sun, so maybe that's a compliment.HenryWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-38123126368941458712014-02-21T10:53:56.988-05:002014-02-21T10:53:56.988-05:00Well, the take home from this post is that the Ori...Well, the take home from this post is that the Orioles had other plans and wound up with this. What one hopes from a front office is a plan and being able to execute that plan. I think you would be hard pressed to conclude they executed the plan here. Second, it is fairly obvious that Santana is not highly wanted. He lasted until Spring Training and good pitchers do not get tangled up in Qualifying Offer positions. <br /><br />Additionally, I do know people connected who point directly at Jimenez' mechanics as being the issue. I was told he was a hard worker and a great teammate, but that his issues at repeating his delivery were enough of a concern that they felt very uncomfortable offering him anything more than a one year offer.<br /><br />Take it for what you will.Jon Shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-68587326143446204422014-02-21T10:43:27.264-05:002014-02-21T10:43:27.264-05:00If this post is an attempt to make an argument aga...If this post is an attempt to make an argument against the Jimenez signing, it fails IMO. The whole thing reads like how-dare-anyone-be-happy sour grapes, and is made up mostly of distortions (Jimenez is "Plan F" only because you chose to present it that way) and one-sided speculation (eg, it's a stretch to say that the Indians clearly decided Jimenez was not worth it b/c of his mechanics issues). You're entitled to an opinion, and I won't sit here and say I am 100% confident Jimenez will take the O's over the top, but this comes across as an amateurish and not very persuasive complaining session, as if you just have some kind of special aloof wisdom that elevates your opinion over every other O's fan and journalist. I enjoy much of your work and that of others on CD, but I have to say I find this post disappointing.Jeremynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-89191642095615067442014-02-21T09:31:34.930-05:002014-02-21T09:31:34.930-05:00I'm just happy they went with Plan F if it kep...I'm just happy they went with Plan F if it kept them from implementing Plan G (Santana).<br /><br />The intriguing thing about Jimenez is his capacity for such high-level performance. He seems like the only guy in this mid-tier group of pitchers that truly has shown the potential to be an ace. <br /><br />Now, the question is: Will the O's be able to harness Ubaldo's talent? This is where the rubber meets the road as far as the quality of Wallace et al. is concerned. I am not holding my breath, and I think your point about Cleveland's lack of interest even at this "bargain" price is worrisome. If Mickey Callaway got him straightened out for the second half, why don't they think he can do it going forward?Chito Martinezhttp://twitter.com/NottherealChitonoreply@blogger.com