tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post7991637441241313881..comments2024-01-06T02:22:33.000-05:00Comments on Camden Depot: What if the Orioles had let Roberts walk?Jon Shepherdhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-30214753073470363242011-03-24T20:04:23.615-04:002011-03-24T20:04:23.615-04:00I contend though that it made no sense in the cont...I contend though that it made no sense in the context that the team had no chance to compete on the front end of the deal with supplemental talent. To make it more clear, I should have written in the unspoken contextual clause.Jon Shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-83076098594065431582011-03-24T17:07:27.387-04:002011-03-24T17:07:27.387-04:00Oh yes, makes sense. In fact, that's why I sa...Oh yes, makes sense. In fact, that's why I said "in terms of value" because I suspected you thought the contract wasn't good in other aspects. But your original statement said "made no sense" when in fact in made sense in at least one aspect (performance value), which is what raised my attention. I certainly agree that it made no sense in the other ways you mentioned. I wasn't a fan of the Roberts extension at time but because I thought his value wouldn't hold and it was an overpay.stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12808900090584995792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-34680161945571194102011-03-24T16:51:56.734-04:002011-03-24T16:51:56.734-04:00I think you are making a bit too much out of '...I think you are making a bit too much out of 'fair.' Fair is with respect to the total terms of the contract. Not to what it means in terms of cost savings, flexibility, and core development. <br /><br />Read the following paragraph in that original article and it should explain it well enough. Contract is fair to player and could be argued for if you provide front end supplemental talent to make up for the plus value at the beginning of the deal. It becomes foolhardy when you plan for him to be effective at the tail end.<br /><br />Does that make sense now? I never liked the deal. I was widely hit at Orioles Hangout and the Sun Board for those opinions two years ago. It is rough because I like Roberts, too. But historical context is sometimes hard to break free of. Few 2B defy it.Jon Shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-81246284309490225642011-03-24T14:23:49.241-04:002011-03-24T14:23:49.241-04:00"As I have mentioned time and time again, the..."As I have mentioned time and time again, the extension for Brian Roberts made no sense."<br /><br />Hold up, at the time of the extension, you spoke positively of the extension. You wrote, "The projected value of his performance is worth 42.5MM with 63% of that worth coming in the first two seasons. Overall, the Orioles pay below the predicted going rate of cost per win. Although in the final two seasons they pay above." And then you mention in the conclusion that you thought the extension was "fair." So at least in terms of value, this latest post seems like a reverse in course.stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12808900090584995792noreply@blogger.com