tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post7270739082117652748..comments2024-01-06T02:22:33.000-05:00Comments on Camden Depot: After the Goldrush: Orioles may regret not dealing their closer at the peak of his valueJon Shepherdhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-49138789716788500772017-04-19T19:44:50.153-04:002017-04-19T19:44:50.153-04:00I guess the grass is always greener. Everyone alw...I guess the grass is always greener. Everyone always wants something they don't have rather than appreciating what they do have.Rogernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-74119726521904540382017-04-18T21:09:27.457-04:002017-04-18T21:09:27.457-04:00That Cargo for Gausman trade should have happened!...That Cargo for Gausman trade should have happened!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-33060937870404084862017-04-18T20:51:40.848-04:002017-04-18T20:51:40.848-04:00The Orioles never seem to have trouble finding clo...The Orioles never seem to have trouble finding closers, they should sell high on Britton, but Duquette shot the idea down in the offseason. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05005398169602900978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-26962982351181650172017-04-18T16:36:19.697-04:002017-04-18T16:36:19.697-04:00I think the while trade Zach Britton perspective h...I think the while trade Zach Britton perspective has been written here several times over the past three years. Jon Shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-41918427584787057232017-04-18T15:49:44.304-04:002017-04-18T15:49:44.304-04:00I tend to think that relievers are actually worth ...I tend to think that relievers are actually worth more mid-season than they are in the offseason. The thing about relievers is the unpredictability that you referred to in the article. Any guy with big velocity can be perceived as having bullpen upside, so in the offseason most front offices are at least outwardly comfortable with their bullpen situations. In the stark reality of a mid-season swoon it can be hard to argue that an elite bullpen arm is just a luxury to try to talk his value down. I think the Davis-Soler trade highlights this phenomenon - the Cubs were in a position to talk up their former closer as a reasonable option even with Chapman gone, and were able to get a guy with probably the best track record of any big league reliever over the past 4-5 years for a very expendable piece. Soler played less than half a season in 2016 and with Schwarber back was poised to play even less this year. Sure, he still has upside, but not nearly the value of the hauls that Miller and Chapman brought back. Injury concerns certainly played a role in that depressed value, but I suspect timing mattered as well.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12364443498899374049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-32573969311530032602017-04-18T14:44:15.119-04:002017-04-18T14:44:15.119-04:00I think Duquette's strategy was/is a hybrid of...I think Duquette's strategy was/is a hybrid of author Matthew and Joe Reisel's viewpoints... If the Orioles started well this season (like they have), and been in the mix for the playoffs (as they may), then you hang on to Britton for a potential title run and re-evaluate in the offseason. If the Orioles falter (as they very well could have, or still could, really), then you flip him at the trade deadline when he'll be at peak value (as relievers of the past several years have been). This, of course, is a risky endeavor, because it's possible that the team is out of contention and Britton is either hurt or ineffective, but I understand why Duquette would do this.<br /><br />The worst case scenario (Britton being hurt or ineffective AND the Orioles being out of the playoff hunt at the deadline) still allows the Orioles one last shot at things next year before the whole thing comes crashing down, and the ability to flip him (or use him) next year. Hedging your bets has been Duquette's main MO since taking over the Orioles several years ago, so I don't think this is a surprising way of going at The Britton Decision.Dustinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09749400957192021859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-17578989711718654532017-04-18T13:16:25.442-04:002017-04-18T13:16:25.442-04:00I think this article misses two key points. First,...I think this article misses two key points. First, the Orioles were a playoff team last season and in three of the last five seasons. Second, in my opinion the Orioles' have so little in the pipeline that adding one, or even two, good prospects won't prevent them from being a non-contender after Manny Machado becomes a free agent and the other current contributors get older. The Orioles' best hope, in my opinion, is to ride their current team as long as they can and then worry about the future.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18347209822215185644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-88445375122337300412017-04-18T10:39:55.132-04:002017-04-18T10:39:55.132-04:00I too felt like Britton should have been traded la...I too felt like Britton should have been traded last off-season at the peak of his value. He was worth more then than he now is worth, whether injured or not. This is like pruning plants; longevity is more assured by selective removal of certain flowers and branches. <br /><br />Clearly the team needs left-side infield help, and always needs starting pitching. Corner outfield appears on OK hands for the present anyway. Trading an All Star Closer for a blue chip shortstop or third base prospect is a little like ditching the beautiful-but-wild girlfriend for the smart, loyal nerdy one who also is a good cook. Boss61https://www.blogger.com/profile/01045206084120458063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-33657968730541815802017-04-18T10:27:59.622-04:002017-04-18T10:27:59.622-04:00Where was this article during the off-season? I th...Where was this article during the off-season? I thought this was an obvious move to net the Orioles a top end starting pitcher prospect and a mid-range prospect. It's really not that big of a deal though as the O's always have the option open to trading Britton during the Summer. The Yanks netted elite level prospects by trading their relievers around that time which tells you that value could reach a peak with teams potentially engaging in a bidding war. Britton of course would have to be healthy to have those options so hopefully he will be OK. Mr. Diggznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-23450867913105761322017-04-18T08:17:59.665-04:002017-04-18T08:17:59.665-04:00No, Britton hasn't pitched three days in a row...No, Britton hasn't pitched three days in a row. He's pitched back to back only twice so far this season. Salisbury Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02706313007254214996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-90057566999775695062017-04-18T07:30:37.297-04:002017-04-18T07:30:37.297-04:00Don't miss the fact that Showalter seems to be...Don't miss the fact that Showalter seems to be going against type and abusing Britton this season. He worked five of the first 8 games - it's no wonder they wore his arm out early. Supposedly Buck says he won't use his guys more than 2 days in a row and I know I saw Britton at least three days in a row.Rogernoreply@blogger.com