tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post6509574771172760386..comments2024-01-06T02:22:33.000-05:00Comments on Camden Depot: Blueprint For The 2017 Orioles (Option 5): Be Bold, But Not Too Bold, Mr Fox.Jon Shepherdhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-76257661061208030722016-11-01T13:54:22.563-04:002016-11-01T13:54:22.563-04:00BORAS projects Reddick to earn 3 and $41M. Definit...BORAS projects Reddick to earn 3 and $41M. Definitely cheaper than Desmond.<br /><br />The Orioles probably can afford to add Reddick (barely) if they non-tender guys like Worley and Flaherty and go minimum wage with everyone else. Perhaps there would be a few million to add an outfielder like Jennings or Bourn. I think I'd rather sign Castro and go cheap on outfielders given the option.<br /><br />In order to sign Cespedes, you'd need to get another team to eat about $12M in salary. If they'll go for Jimenez or Gallardo, then that can work. But Tillman is the realistic option.Matt Pnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-47748997623821844652016-11-01T12:30:32.935-04:002016-11-01T12:30:32.935-04:00So what does BORAS project Josh Reddick to make? H...So what does BORAS project Josh Reddick to make? He's coming off a down season in the power dept. and with defensive metrics so maybe the Orioles can get him for roughly the 3 years and 30 million he rejected from the A's before being shipped off to the Dodgers. Wouldn't that make him cheaper than Desmond? (Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer Ian Desmond to Reddick both because he's more durable and can play the IF if necessary.)<br /><br />Sure, Reddick is injury prone but then again so are Jennings and Pearce. Reddick is only one year removed from a 20 HR season, playing half of his games in Oakland. So what might he accomplish in Camden Yards? And while his defensive metrics for 2016 don't outshine those of Jennings or Pearce, neither of these guys could claim they have won a gold glove. When healthy, he can cover a lot of ground and make outstanding plays, while contributing much greater power than you can reasonably expect from either Bourn, Jennings or Pearce (I think he'd love that short porch in RF). And he can steal a few bases for the team.<br />Like I said, I'd prefer Ian Desmond to Josh Reddick, but we should consider a backup plan since I imagine that Desmond would have multiple suitors this off-season. And, if you get Reddick at a reasonable cost, you can afford to get Pearce or Jennings if you prefer for that extra RHB in the OF. <br />No way I can see us having the money to sign Cespedes, unless you trade Tillman and even then that's problematic for reasons already covered.vilnius b.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02872502926590063013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-70709159852123867542016-11-01T08:52:32.765-04:002016-11-01T08:52:32.765-04:00Oh, no interest in Holland or Ruiz. Oh, no interest in Holland or Ruiz. Matt Pnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-23437291404458801602016-11-01T08:51:44.928-04:002016-11-01T08:51:44.928-04:00We don't necessarily have a competitive balanc...We don't necessarily have a competitive balance pick. The draft isn't until January. But it's highly unlikely that the Os would be eligible for Part A as they're not bottom ten in market(the Os are bottom 11th) or in revenue, which means the best they could do is get a pick in part B (because the Os receive revenue sharing).<br /><br />Agreed that Jennings, Bourn, Kim and Pearce would cover LF, RF, DH and give us a versatile player on the bench. Buck could use the fourth guy to keep players fresh and could rotate. I don't think I trust any of those guys except Kim to play 160 games anyway. Maybe the Os would use Walker instead of Rickard in order to have a pinch hitter available? <br /><br />If the Os go after Cespedes then they'll likely have no money available to add depth. You'd need Bourn or Desmond playing LF (if the Os can afford them) and use the farm for the bench. Matt Pnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-85294135745069927132016-11-01T07:41:50.675-04:002016-11-01T07:41:50.675-04:00Anybody wanna be "in" on Derek Holland? ...Anybody wanna be "in" on Derek Holland? Maybe we could trade Gallardo back to Texas along with a minor prospect and a competitive balance pick for Holland. Doesn't save any money but it might be an upgrade because Holland can pitch out of the pen too. And would make Miley expendable.<br /><br />Also, just saw that Carlos Ruiz (PHIL) should be available at catcher. Seems like he might be a good stopgap to wait for Sisco to be ready. Does Ruiz have more potential upside than Castro? His D metrics seem to be good.<br /><br />Matt, as much as you dislike the O's farm players, I think they have to use what they have where they can. Rickard as a 4th OF is exactly how he needs to be used and he has options now. You say Jennings and Bourn can play LF and RF, but then what about Kim? He actually does deserve a shot at batting against LHP with Rickard backing him up if he doesn't succeed. Cespedes or Desmond in RF would take care of that. Bourn can spell Jones or Cespedes/Desmond. I also think Mancini, Plan B or not, must be counted on to fill a significant role considering his low cost.Rogernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-50349115105530357472016-10-31T21:36:16.688-04:002016-10-31T21:36:16.688-04:00Being competitive on Cespedes doesn't necessar...Being competitive on Cespedes doesn't necessarily require trading Tillman -- trading Jimenez should also do the trick. Or if the Os are willing to go to $165M then perhaps Miley or Gallardo. But the Os would have to be able to trade those three pitchers straight up without eating any cash. I'm not sure that's possible.<br /><br />I'm not considering internal candidates much. The Orioles don't have a single credible Plan A player in the minors with the possible exception of putting Wright in the bullpen. I consider Mancini to be a strong Plan B at DH while Sisco is probably a year away. Rickard is nothing more than a fourth outfielder that hopefully sees minimal playing time. Walker is probably around a top 500 prospect and should be considered nothing more than a Plan C for the majors.<br /><br />Jennings and Bourn are somewhat similar players but one can play LF and the other can play RF. As I have no respect for the Os minor league system, I think the Os could use both. If you sign Cespedes, then there isn't cash for Pearce or Bourn and the Os would really want to get a promising corner outfielder in a trade. Another reason to trade Tillman.Matt Perezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16191574755038653061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-64609485296188232372016-10-31T21:11:36.297-04:002016-10-31T21:11:36.297-04:00PEARCE?!?!?!?! 3 years, 40 MILL???????????????? Pa...PEARCE?!?!?!?! 3 years, 40 MILL???????????????? Pass me your pipe now, Boras!!!!!!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-37721020498136425552016-10-31T21:06:16.458-04:002016-10-31T21:06:16.458-04:00I like this profile but have a few problems. Firs...I like this profile but have a few problems. First, I like the bold profile better but I never considered that the O's might have a shot at being competitive for Cespedes. If that relies on trading Tillman, I don't agree. I would press hard to trade out salary on Gallardo or Jimenez or even Miley. With the conservative profile, it seems like you have too many players for the roster and signing so many FAs leaves very little of the optionable flexibility that Buck seems to like. I agree, also, that adding one star is better than adding four slightly above replacement players. I have been pushing for Desmond who is cheaper and younger and more flexible than Cespedes. Not quite the offensive impact but fills the same hole while also adding infield flexibility. Jennings and Bourn seem duplicative and you don't seem to be considering internal candidates much.<br /><br />Can't remember where it was mentioned but a 13 man pitching staff with 3 middle relievers with multiple inning capability and Bundy starting in the pen would be a great idea (plus the Rule 5 guy is likely to be a pitcher). Signing someone like Desmond makes it much easier to go with 12 position players. As we all know, having several 1B/DH types didn't provide much flexibility and made injuries hard to handle (especially when JJ was out of the lineup but Jones too).<br /><br />Also, I wish there were really a case for keeping Pearce. But with Mancini in tow it's hard to justify Pearce. I would do it but Pearce would have to come at a deep discount. Pearce would make a great platoon partner for Kim. But with Desmond (or Cespedes), you don't have room for both Bourn and Pearce especially if you include Rickard.<br /><br />I know everyone hates the O's farm but you have to use what talent it does offer. There's enough there to fill a roster if you go big on one star.Rogernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-47539497016767819872016-10-31T20:15:18.073-04:002016-10-31T20:15:18.073-04:00I would like some of what Borass is smoking! Two y...I would like some of what Borass is smoking! Two years, 19.1 million to a released player who exactly batted MENDOZA!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com