tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post4170970453763077101..comments2024-01-06T02:22:33.000-05:00Comments on Camden Depot: Working Our Way Through The 2015 Rule 5 Fodder: Introduction And InfieldJon Shepherdhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-24797191078377229952015-12-01T15:15:40.326-05:002015-12-01T15:15:40.326-05:00Each affiliate has a roster. Players on the AAA r...Each affiliate has a roster. Players on the AAA roster do not necessarily have to play for AAA, so those have to be kept on the active roster. Players not placed on the AAA roster can be had in the minor league portion of the draft and play anywhere.Jon Shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-31407712507927856422015-12-01T12:32:34.255-05:002015-12-01T12:32:34.255-05:00Question: If the player is currently only playing ...Question: If the player is currently only playing at the 2A level (or lower), can an organization take him via the Rule 5 draft and place him on the 3A affiliate for a year?<br /><br />(I'm asking because this would be one way to get around the issue of having to create a spot on the 25-man roster if allowed.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-1960200681521477112015-12-01T07:12:44.225-05:002015-12-01T07:12:44.225-05:00Ha...I did read that piece. Rough week. Yeah...the...Ha...I did read that piece. Rough week. Yeah...there were some weird things reported in there. Roberto Pena is known for his pitch handling. Some of the other names feel more like a who's who. Of course, again, his job is to find the pulse of the market, so his list might well be more relevant.Jon Shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-12114918592748734422015-12-01T07:12:29.685-05:002015-12-01T07:12:29.685-05:00Ha...I did read that piece. Rough week. Yeah...the...Ha...I did read that piece. Rough week. Yeah...there were some weird things reported in there. Roberto Pena is known for his pitch handling. Some of the other names feel more like a who's who. Of course, again, his job is to find the pulse of the market, so his list might well be more relevant.Jon Shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-85606174795493213482015-12-01T06:51:41.930-05:002015-12-01T06:51:41.930-05:00I think with any Rule 5 piece that there is a grea...I think with any Rule 5 piece that there is a great deal of difference in the boards. This is all middling talent with players who either have a lot of average tools or one big one to go with several deficient ones. In such a population, you have a lot of similar players where the evaluator simply goes to what he feels most comfortable with.<br /><br />That said...I have not read Coopers piece. His view may be more in line with his industry contacts. BA almost exclusively reports and does not assess on their own. My list is my assessment and, in this case, I did not call my guys to validate my interest.Jon Shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-9406009348256065612015-12-01T01:21:47.293-05:002015-12-01T01:21:47.293-05:00Just read JJ Cooper's article and was very sur...Just read JJ Cooper's article and was very surprised to find almost no overlap between his suggestions and your names.<br />Do you think the interesting guys he mentioned will be gone when the Orioles pick?<br />Or did you just disagree with his ideas?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-79970504156555399332015-11-30T22:44:33.548-05:002015-11-30T22:44:33.548-05:00
It certainly can be done - my point was its a lo...<br /><br />It certainly can be done - my point was its a long shot <br />odds are against you - but your right its only 50K<br />Rondon - Cubs closer was rule 5 from Indians, but they knew they were not<br />competing and would lose 90 games. So that was really my point - for ATL, Phil, Cinn, Col? It makes sense - but are the Orioles trying to win the division? If so you cant carry 1 guy ( 2 if you count Bundy) that you have to hide. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15235310953345212666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-89989389699688614342015-11-30T22:10:56.481-05:002015-11-30T22:10:56.481-05:00Oh...no idea yet what pick it will be. I would ima...Oh...no idea yet what pick it will be. I would imagine two or three of these guys will be available.Jon Shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-86689008359719055062015-11-30T22:10:02.236-05:002015-11-30T22:10:02.236-05:00Ah...sometimes my memory is as sharp as a marble.Ah...sometimes my memory is as sharp as a marble.Jon Shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-34154257129130851752015-11-30T22:01:17.569-05:002015-11-30T22:01:17.569-05:00Odubel Herrera was worth 3.9 WAR for the Phillies....Odubel Herrera was worth 3.9 WAR for the Phillies.<br />It's possible.<br />However someone said his one-year WAR was higher than the career WAR of any player chosen since the rule change...so it might be unlikely.Philipnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-79720966901195196392015-11-30T21:59:05.125-05:002015-11-30T21:59:05.125-05:00Jon you're mistaken re:rule 5 guys on playoff ...Jon you're mistaken re:rule 5 guys on playoff teams. Delino DeShields was a rule 5 for the Rangers and I think Sean Gilmartin was with the Mets. And Logan Verrett had meaningful innings with the Mets after being returned by the Rangers.<br />Meanwhile, the Orioles would pick 15th if every team drafted.<br />Do we know what pick they'll actually have?<br />Do you think any of these guys will fall far enough the Orioles will have the option of taking them?<br />I guarantee Dan will make a pick. He is abnormally fond of the "something for nothing" concept.Philipnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-58942944996130965432015-11-30T21:17:36.591-05:002015-11-30T21:17:36.591-05:00Not that many teams have made moves. It has been p...Not that many teams have made moves. It has been pretty quiet this year. Things should pick up around the league in the next few weeks.Jon Shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-25603898690118998842015-11-30T20:28:14.688-05:002015-11-30T20:28:14.688-05:00Another way for DDDD to stay cheap. Look at all th...Another way for DDDD to stay cheap. Look at all the other teams making moves, PLEASE JUST DO SOMETHING!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-61069700159502002852015-11-30T13:50:18.531-05:002015-11-30T13:50:18.531-05:00That is a pretty restricted view of things and ign...That is a pretty restricted view of things and ignores precedent. Last year did not see any Rule 5 players on the playoffs teams, but that was not the case is years prior. Many people who come here are Orioles fans and I am sure they remember Ryan Flaherty in 2012.<br /><br />The Rule 5 has shown to be a perfectly fine place for a junk inning reliever with promise, utility players, and back up catchers. It is not a great place to find talent, but it would be ill advised to suggest that there are no potentially useful players.Jon Shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-68920942930326508492015-11-30T13:43:24.214-05:002015-11-30T13:43:24.214-05:00If your looking to add a player via rule 5 draft
...<br /><br />If your looking to add a player via rule 5 draft <br />then your not competing for the playoffs -period.<br />Playoff teams lose guys to rule 5 - they certainly dont carry them<br />all year. The Phillies had a nice rule 5 pick in 2015 - they could afford to<br />but you dont see the Dodgers or other "contending " teams in 2015 carrying <br />those rule 5 guys. <br /><br />IF that is the case they should blow it up. Keep Machado - but acquire <br />prospects /assets for every one else - Re load the system. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15235310953345212666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-65562412977297452972015-11-30T12:36:00.206-05:002015-11-30T12:36:00.206-05:00Yes, it was a weird article with respect to scope....Yes, it was a weird article with respect to scope. It felt like a lead paragraph or something was missing.<br /><br />Re: Fuenmayor. The difficulty I foresee is that he might be a hard person to keep on the active roster for 90 days (which is what is required to be allowed to demote the player the following season, otherwise Rule 5 rules continue to apply). In other words, he is expected to be able to play in game around mid-May to early June. He would then be permitted to serve a 20 day rehab assignment. That puts him on the MLB roster between mid to late June. At that point, he cannot hit the DL again or else he won't serve 90 days in the Majors. That said, he would be no different than someone like Ji-Man Choi who has a mid June opt out date, so who knows? He probably is a very safe selection, but not much of a shot at sticking.<br /><br />Re: Redriguez. Those innings are largely a product of a less filled out youth and a lower bar of defensive adeptness. He can stand there. He cannot play there without sinking the club.<br /><br />Re; Skole. My guess is that weird things happen.Jon Shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-71180271343657722142015-11-30T11:38:42.734-05:002015-11-30T11:38:42.734-05:00Skole's AA-AAA splits last year strike me as s...Skole's AA-AAA splits last year strike me as somewhat odd<br />He's a LHB who hit: (vs RHP 386 PA) .222/.337/.403 (vs LHP 161 PA) .264/.348/.450<br />These reverse splits only surfaced this year (his splits in 2014 and 2012 were more traditional, injured much of 2013).<br />MLBTR suggested something in a rather strange article (by their standards) posted either yesterday or the day before that essentially looked at who the Phillies might take overall (again, this was one of the strangest articles I've ever read on there). The suggestion was that Balbino Fuenmayor could be one of two picks for a given team; they could take a pitcher and also Fuenmayor who could start the year on the DL. I could see the Orioles doing something like that, especially if the first player was an easier 'safer' guy to keep. <br />Ronny Rodriguez is interesting. Seems like he has some upside, plus has spent significant minor league time at SS (2274 Innings), 2B (1363), 1B (442.1), and 3B (332.1). Could be worth a cheap look.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com