tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post3595876192955334955..comments2024-01-06T02:22:33.000-05:00Comments on Camden Depot: It's Time to End the Punishment for Signing Free AgentsJon Shepherdhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-72735277334816901652014-02-24T14:17:18.425-05:002014-02-24T14:17:18.425-05:00It's questionable whether Burnett really deser...It's questionable whether Burnett really deserved a QO. Cruz and Morales clearly didn't. Santana and Drew did deserve one but should have accepted (at least in retrospect). Grandy got lucky to get a deal that was better than the QO. <br /><br />It wasn't a no-brainer to give Burnett a QO. <br /><br />#Joe - Fair enough. I agree that you could tweak revenue sharing to ensure competitive balance. Make it so that all revenue sharing money can only be spent on players/prospects and that teams can store money from year to year. Matt Perezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16191574755038653061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-25252497005194543062014-02-24T13:21:35.656-05:002014-02-24T13:21:35.656-05:00i lean more towards separating the draft and free ...i lean more towards separating the draft and free agency completely, but am open to some sort of system that provides compensation/deterrent. but one problem with the current system is that a team signing a QO free agent gets punished twice (losing the pick and the slot money).<br /><br />i think an easy fix that would help the current system is to have the signing team lose their draft pick, but keep their slot money, which would allow them to still reach for higher impact talent in later rounds.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05119567934749982333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-83786237353579266072014-02-24T12:28:54.707-05:002014-02-24T12:28:54.707-05:00Richard - It is actually a pretty fair statement a...Richard - It is actually a pretty fair statement and one that has been used a good deal in the past several weeks describing the Indians' interest in Jimenez. Cleveland's beat writer Paul Hoynes has been all over this about their interest.Jon Shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-6033924364340247462014-02-24T12:26:02.989-05:002014-02-24T12:26:02.989-05:00*severe**severe*Rahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08882025852335950273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-78446531732038206242014-02-24T12:24:52.853-05:002014-02-24T12:24:52.853-05:00Your claim that a team offering a $14.1MM qualifyi...Your claim that a team offering a $14.1MM qualifying offer "pretended" to want the player is disingenuous at best, a sever distortion intended to confuse the readers at worstRahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08882025852335950273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-56234882572433953612014-02-24T07:52:00.031-05:002014-02-24T07:52:00.031-05:00MLB has a long history of poorly implemented and p...MLB has a long history of poorly implemented and poorly reasoned approaches to evening the playing field. Look at the Pirates situation, they could not assume the risk that offering AJ Burnett 14.1 MM would entail. It simply was too much money, so they got nothing out of it even though they are the epitome of a team that, according to the spirit of compensation, needs compensation.<br /><br />Free agency, the draft, IFA pools...they are all poor ideas poorly executed.Jon Shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-80913450240768836082014-02-23T17:34:52.116-05:002014-02-23T17:34:52.116-05:00#Matt Perez - I can certainly agree that teams tha...#Matt Perez - I can certainly agree that teams that sign free agents should not be awarded compensation picks for losing free agents. I remain unconvinced that a team should be punished for trying to improve their team by signing an unemployed player that their previous employer offered a one-year contract to. To me, it's irrelevant that some teams are better able to sign players above the level that another team can.<br /><br><br />To me, the idea that a team somehow has rights to a player beyond the terms of its agreed-upon contract is a legacy of prevailing conditions of a century ago. It's as inappropriate today as the idea that batting average tells you all you need to know about a hitter, that wins tell you who the good pitchers are, or that fielding percentage is the only meaningful defensive measurement. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18347209822215185644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-51166969044227932972014-02-23T11:54:18.061-05:002014-02-23T11:54:18.061-05:00I'm a fan of making teams lose a pick for sign...I'm a fan of making teams lose a pick for signing free agents. Free agency is heavily dominated by a few teams already. Without the loss of a pick it would look even more lopsided. And if teams got a pick for losing a guy but didn't lose one for adding a guy then that would be huge for the haves.<br /><br />I do think that changes should be made. Players should be able to exercise the option for the whole offseason. Teams should be able to renounce the option but then they don't get compensation if a guy signs elsewhere.<br /><br />Also, there should be a limit on how many players can be offered compensation by a team (say three players every five years). That way the Yankees and Red Sox can't just sign guys to one year deals and get a pick. Guys who get offered compensation need to be keypieces. Guys like Cano and Ellsbury but not Granderson, Cruz and Morales. And probably should get more than a single first round pick (encourage teams to keep their best players rather than trade them). <br /><br />But I'd rather keep the punishment and work in the system.Matt Perezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16191574755038653061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-14443257774989830752014-02-22T18:13:58.935-05:002014-02-22T18:13:58.935-05:00#Liam - under the 2013 system, the Yankees surrend...#Liam - under the 2013 system, the Yankees surrendered the compensation picks they were awarded for losing Cano and Granderson. They signed three punishment-eligible players (Ellsbury, McCann, Beltran) while losing two (Cano, Granderson) - they lost their first-round pick and the two compensation picks.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18347209822215185644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-48217198161535859022014-02-22T14:56:20.644-05:002014-02-22T14:56:20.644-05:00Another issue with the system is that it often hel...Another issue with the system is that it often helps the rich more than the poor. I think there's a certain expectation that the comp picks will help small market teams remain competitive after losing big name free agents to wealthier teams who can afford them, while handicapping teams who choose to build through free agency.<br /><br /><br />In reality, big-market, successful teams often have more qualifying FA's and its the smaller market teams who are further prevented from entering the FA market. They Yankees gave up a few draft picks this winter but they also got comps back for Cano and Granderson and maybe Hughes. Liamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-60739869680881210882014-02-22T08:23:53.228-05:002014-02-22T08:23:53.228-05:00You have to consider that the 14 MM offered is onl...You have to consider that the 14 MM offered is only active for a week when there is no movement on the FA so players and agents are not sure of real value. Joe is right...the system is unfair to players. Of course, that is par for the course with MLB.Jon Shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-21448215081036411452014-02-22T08:15:57.506-05:002014-02-22T08:15:57.506-05:00what you don't say is those players were offer...what you don't say is those players were offered $14 million to stay, no chump changeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com