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term='Arm Injury'/><category term='Below the Surface'/><category term='Building a Franchise'/><category term='Josh Romanski'/><title type='text'>Camden Depot</title><subtitle type='html'>A collection of items and links about the Baltimore Orioles . . . sometimes, baseball in general.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default?start-index=101&amp;max-results=100'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>588</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-2153510823880126442</id><published>2012-01-27T06:08:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-27T06:08:00.771-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='international scene'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shepherd'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 offseason'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Kim Sung-min'/><title type='text'>O's Kim Sung-min in Dan Duquette's version of Rashomon</title><content type='html'>&lt;table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: left; margin-right: 1em; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://imgnews.naver.com/image/109/2012/01/24/201201220321770680_1_0_20120124090101.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://imgnews.naver.com/image/109/2012/01/24/201201220321770680_1_0_20120124090101.jpg" width="202" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Kim Tebow&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Kim Sung-min was signed by the Orioles.&amp;nbsp; That is pretty much all we know for sure.&amp;nbsp; In an apparent ode to Kurosawa's Rashomon we have a &lt;a href="http://news.naver.com/sports/index.nhn?category=worldbaseball&amp;amp;ctg=news&amp;amp;mod=read&amp;amp;office_id=109&amp;amp;article_id=0002298372"&gt;South Korean paper&lt;/a&gt;, a &lt;a href="http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2012-01-23/sports/bal-orioles-international-movement-turns-to-topranked-korean-high-school-pitcher-20120123_1_orioles-executive-vice-president-south-korea-korea-last-week"&gt;Baltimore Sun beat reporter&lt;/a&gt;, and a national baseball talent writer giving somewhat different accounts of the player.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;South Korean Paper&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I do not read Korean and the Google translator is confused by a few words.&amp;nbsp; I assume "maximum strength fat guts" means something equivalent to having nerves of steel.&amp;nbsp; I don't know.&amp;nbsp; What we can glean from the article is the outline of a pretty impressive talent.&amp;nbsp; Sung-min is a high school left handed pitcher who has a 89.5 mph fastball.&amp;nbsp; He also has a curve and a "remarkable" circle change.&amp;nbsp; He is listed as 5'10.5 and weighing in at 181 lbs.&amp;nbsp; There is no information on the financials.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Baltimore Beat&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Sun's Eduardo Encina talked to a team source and came up with the following pitcher.&amp;nbsp; Sung-min at 17 is the best left handed high school pitching prospect in South Korea (which is similar to being the best high school left handed pitching prospect in Rhode Island--that can be quite good and it could be quite poor).&amp;nbsp; He is 5'10 and 180 lbs with a high 80s fastball, an above average 12-to-6 curveball, and an above average change up.&amp;nbsp; They expect him to become 6'1.&amp;nbsp; These pitches are expected to progress as he ages (this means that all three pitches will be plus pitches).&amp;nbsp; He will play a few weeks at the academy in Los Angeles before heading over to the Orioles' facility in Florida.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;The National Writer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keith Law reminds me of Frau Bl&lt;span class="st"&gt;&lt;i&gt;ü&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;cher.&amp;nbsp; You mention his name in the Baltimore-Washington metropolitan area and you will surely hear some snorting and gnashing of teeth.&amp;nbsp; That certainly was the case when the following was written from his &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/#%21/keithlaw"&gt;twitter account&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;The O's gave $550K to a 5'9" Korean HS lefty throwing 80-83 with no feel for a breaking ball. Nice use of savings from cutting pro scouting.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&amp;nbsp;With respect to the Orioles projection of Sung-min growing a few more inches, Law wrote in a &lt;a href="http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/42270"&gt;chat&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;Predicting body development is a big part of scouts' jobs, although it's usually about a frame filling out more than a player growing three freaking inches after his 18th birthday, which is pretty rare. A scout would also want to meet the parents and see how tall they are, how broad, how heavy, etc. I'm much more comfortable looking at a 17-year-old Tyler Skaggs and telling you he'll add velocity because he's tall and thin with broad shoulders rather than looking at a 17-year-old Jarrod Parker and telling you he'll grow from 6' to 6'3" because I like his fastball.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I agree with Law on this last point.&amp;nbsp; Final height determinations are quite difficult and are often guesswork even when you understand family genetics and have a long term growth pattern documented from the player.&amp;nbsp; You could get even more exact with more invasive medicals procedures, but that seems an unlikely scenario for an upstart operation in South Korea.&amp;nbsp; I really do not know if anyone is using that approach.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Conclusion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Like Rashomon, I do not know what the reality is.&amp;nbsp; I am drawn into Encina's article as something I want to be true.&amp;nbsp; Sung-min, a player on a well covered Junior national team, somehow slips through the cracks even though he is a lefty with potentially three plus pitches.&amp;nbsp; Typically, a player like that would be followed by many teams and would be worth a couple million.&amp;nbsp; The South Korean paper appears more tame, but we don't really know if the papers used the same source.&amp;nbsp; Many aspects are similar between the two players with the Baltimore account having a greater eye to the future and what Sung-min could become.&amp;nbsp; Law's account is a dousing of cold water.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In all honesty, all three could be accurate.&amp;nbsp; Law's information could have come from an earlier outing or on one of the player's bad days.&amp;nbsp; The Korean article may be an account from an Orioles' scout highlighting the performance when everything was clicking.&amp;nbsp; The Baltimore Sun account may be a summation of the high points and a focus on the top 1% outcome.&amp;nbsp; When he reports to Florida, we will likely have much of this progressing toward some answers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Right now, I would not put too much stock in any of these evaluations.&amp;nbsp; How could you?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-2153510823880126442?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/2153510823880126442/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=2153510823880126442' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/2153510823880126442'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/2153510823880126442'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2012/01/os-kim-sung-min-in-dan-duquettes.html' title='O&apos;s Kim Sung-min in Dan Duquette&apos;s version of Rashomon'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-6965810846992511149</id><published>2012-01-25T06:13:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-26T19:51:22.174-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shepherd'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='options'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 offseason'/><title type='text'>Os Pitchers, Option Years, and Cuts</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://badhop.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/about_mound.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://badhop.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/about_mound.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;i&gt;Note: Vandenhurk was on the 40 man roster when this post was written.&amp;nbsp; He was DFA'd for Wilson Betemit. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For this article, I used the information collected by this &lt;a href="http://forum.orioleshangout.com/forums/showthread.php/107315-Option-Years-2011-Baltimore-Orioles"&gt;poster&lt;/a&gt; and filling in where I see holes (such as Dana Eveland's absence). I have yet to find a good resource on the internet to figure these things out.&amp;nbsp; However, it appears for the time being that Tom Peace will be working with us at the Depot and providing us transaction information news.&amp;nbsp; We are happy to have him on board and quite happy to more fully cover the Orioles.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have not compared this year's 40 man roster heading into Spring Training to any other year's, but it feels as if there is a great deal of roster inflexibility this year.&amp;nbsp; This post is to run down the current stable of arms and try to determine how many spots on the team are actually up for competition, who that competition is, and who is most certainly going to be placed on waivers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Players with Three Options &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Jake Arrieta&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; RHP&lt;br /&gt;Arrieta on first glance did not have an incredibly impressive season, but his peripherals look good.&amp;nbsp; Also, if the bone spurs in his arm were hampering him then we may be able to expect even more from him.&amp;nbsp; I do think even though he would be an excellent late inning arm, if he does not earn a spot in the rotation then he is going to Norfolk.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Zach Britton&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; LHP&lt;br /&gt;I cannot imagine Britton not starting with Baltimore in their rotation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Dylan Bundy&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; RHP&lt;br /&gt;Bundy signed a major league deal at the signing deadline last August.&amp;nbsp; He actually has four options due to signing that deal as an amateur and will use the first of those this season.&amp;nbsp; He is at least two years away from the parent club.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Oliver Drake&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; RHP&lt;br /&gt;Drake was placed on the 40 man roster this past fall to protect him from the Rule 5 draft.&amp;nbsp; He faces long odds breaking camp with the Orioles, but he may see some time in Baltimore this year as the season drags on and players are demoted, released, or injured.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Two Options&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Jason Berken &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;RHP&lt;br /&gt;Berken was on the &lt;a href="http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2012/01/19/baltimore-orioles-pitcher-jason-berken-talks-fan-fest/"&gt;Scott Garceau Show&lt;/a&gt; the other day and mentioned that he feels strong and ready for Spring Training.&amp;nbsp; I could see him breaking camp in Baltimore.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Brian Matusz&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; LHP&lt;br /&gt;Matusz has two options left and he is certainly fighting for a spot in the rotation this Spring whereas last year he was merely working on a few minor things.&amp;nbsp; Unless he finds where his lost 2 mph went, then he will likely break the year in Norfolk.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;One Option&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Darren O'Day&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; RHP&lt;br /&gt;O'Day amazingly still has an option left according the link above.&amp;nbsp; Plagued with injuries of late, he might need more time to get himself in order to perform well in the majors.&amp;nbsp; He is certainly one of the pitchers on the bubble.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Zach Phillips&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; LHP&lt;br /&gt;Phillips is another player I was surprised as having another option year left.&amp;nbsp; He is another player on the bubble as he has shown to be effective as a lefty in the pen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Pedro Strop&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; RHP &lt;i&gt;(edit: Strop has no options left, he was optioned once by Colorado)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Strop came over to the Orioles in the Mike Gonzalez deal with Texas last year.&amp;nbsp; At the time, Nick wrote a brief scouting review on Strop.&amp;nbsp; He looked good in a short cup of coffee last year.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Chris Tillman&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; RHP&lt;br /&gt;Tillman is another pitcher who has lost some velocity as well.&amp;nbsp; When the Bedard trade went down, Tillman had another 4 mph to his fastball.&amp;nbsp; As that velocity decreased, so have expectations.&amp;nbsp; Tillman could help out in the pen, but with an option left he is going to AAA again.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Unoptionable&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Brad Bergesen&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; RHP&lt;br /&gt;Bergesen may be able to benefit from the Peterson Pitching Lab.&amp;nbsp; He has flashed moments of very good-ness, but if he loses his command he becomes quite hittable.&amp;nbsp; It appears that his best fit would be as a reliever, so that the team could protect him from left handed batters.&amp;nbsp; It would surprise me to see him DFA'd.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wei-Yin Chen&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; LHP&lt;br /&gt;Chen should have three options left, but I imagine his contract prevents him from being optioned similar to what most star Japanese players sign.&amp;nbsp; Chen also was likely promised an opportunity to start, which will narrow things down for the club.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Dana Eveland&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; LHP&lt;br /&gt;Eveland has enticed and disappointed many teams over his career.&amp;nbsp; He is now without options.&amp;nbsp; The Orioles gave up minimal talent to acquire him, but that effort probably means that he would have to completely fall apart to not break with the team.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Kevin Gregg&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; RHP&lt;br /&gt;"Proven" closer Kevin Gregg cannot be optioned and will be sticking with the club in some capacity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Jeremy Guthrie&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; RHP&lt;br /&gt;Guthrie is the dependable veteran hand and, by default, the ace of the team.&amp;nbsp; Unless dealt, he will break with the club.&amp;nbsp; His value takes a dramatic downward turn once the season begins because players dealt during the season no longer qualify for free agent compensation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Tommy Hunter&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; RHP&lt;br /&gt;I am fairly confidant that Hunter is a Buck Showalter player.&amp;nbsp; However, I just do not see much there worthwhile in him starting.&amp;nbsp; He will likely start in the pen and will almost certainly break camp with Baltimore. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Jim Johnson&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; RHP&lt;br /&gt;Is he a reliever or a starter?&amp;nbsp; It really does not matter.&amp;nbsp; He will be in Baltimore.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Troy Patton&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; LHP&lt;br /&gt;Patton was the major piece in the first Tejada deal (as opposed to Luke Scott).&amp;nbsp; He was very impressive last year in Baltimore over 30 IP with a 3.00 ERA.&amp;nbsp; His peripherals looked solid as well.&amp;nbsp; I am thinking he has earned himself a trip past the Potomac as well. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Clay Rapada&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; LHP&lt;br /&gt;Rapada kills lefties.&amp;nbsp; He outright kills them.&amp;nbsp; Righties outright kill Rapada.&amp;nbsp; They kill him.&amp;nbsp; Does the team have space for a true LOOGY? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Alfredo Simon&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; RHP&lt;br /&gt;Simon is a fringe player.&amp;nbsp; He has good velocity in his fastball, but is generally inconsistent.&amp;nbsp; He has flashed some hope as a starter and a closer, but has ultimately disappointed in both roles.&amp;nbsp; My guess is that with his law troubles over, he will be dealt to an NL team for a low ceiling B level minor leaguer or a low probability slightly higher ceiling low minors player.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Rick Vandenhurk&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; RHP&lt;br /&gt;Vandenhurk is a shade below Simon.&amp;nbsp; Simon having been able to show his abilities at the MLB level while Vandenhurk is caught more as someone who does quite well at AAA.&amp;nbsp; I think the market for him is less than that for Simon.&amp;nbsp; Vandenhurk will likely be DFA'd at the end of camp.&amp;nbsp; I would not be surprised if he heads back to the Marlins.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Tsuyoshi Wada&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; LHP&lt;br /&gt;Like Chen, Wada probably has two elements in his contract that limit opportunity for others: (1) he cannot be optioned without his permission and (2) he was likely promised a starting rotation job to being the season.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Starting Rotation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sure Bets: Guthrie, Britton, Chen, Wada&lt;br /&gt;Competition: Arrieta, Matusz, Tillman, Bergesen, Eveland, Hunter, Simon, VandenHurk&lt;br /&gt;I think the first four slots have been filled.&amp;nbsp; I also think the competition will really be between Arrieta, Eveland, and Hunter.&amp;nbsp; For Arrieta, it will be the rotation or Norfolk.&amp;nbsp; For Eveland and Hunter, it will be the rotation or bullpen.&amp;nbsp; I cannot see either of them being released.&amp;nbsp; Matusz is the main wildcard here.&amp;nbsp; He has the potential to be a very solid 2 slot pitcher on a first division team.&amp;nbsp; His loss of velocity last year was quite concerning.&amp;nbsp; If better conditioning improves things, he will secure that fifth slot.&amp;nbsp; However, it would also not be surprising if we learn this year that he is suffering from an injury.&amp;nbsp; I also suspect that Simon and Vandenhurk will not be with the club when they break.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Bullpen&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sure Bets: Kevin Gregg, Jim Johnson&lt;br /&gt;Competition: Berken, O'Day, Phillips, Strop, Patton, Rapada, Simon, Vandenhurk&lt;br /&gt;Assuming there is a thirteen man pen, Gregg, Johnson, and perhaps Eveland and Hunter means that there are four slots remaining.&amp;nbsp; Under competition, the Orioles have eight pitchers competing for four slots (this does not include MiL contracts with Spring Training invites).&amp;nbsp; Eveland would be the only lefty in that group.&amp;nbsp; I see Patton in the pen along with the winner of the Phillips/Rapada competition.&amp;nbsp; For the other two slots, I think Strop and O'Day make it, but that Berken or Simon has a decent chance to displace O'Day due to their ability to eat up innings.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Spring Training Invites&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Willie Eyre RHP, Dennys Reyes LHP, Oscar Villareal RHP, Armando Galarraga RHP (I hear he signed)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would be surprised if any of these pitchers are able to push the players in front of them out of the way.&amp;nbsp; Eyre depends on getting outs on batted balls.&amp;nbsp; I think we could see him later in the year, but not in April.&amp;nbsp; Reyes fell apart last year.&amp;nbsp; I do not know exactly what happened to him, but I see no evidence that he played past the spring.&amp;nbsp; He has the ability to push Phillips and Rapada for a spot.&amp;nbsp; I do not believe in Villareal.&amp;nbsp; He only has a couple good seasons and last pitched in 2008.&amp;nbsp; Galarraga has always appeared to be a better pitcher than he really was.&amp;nbsp; I have a hard time seeing him contributing in a substantial way for a MLB club.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Offseason Not Over&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There have been some rumblings that the Orioles have interest in acquiring another pitcher.&amp;nbsp; The two names mentioned are Francisco Cordero who would come in an close or Luis Ayala who would be another rightie in the pen.&amp;nbsp; I think the former allows Johnson to stay in a late inning setup role while the latter supposedly solidifies the late inning work and permits Johnson to close out games.&amp;nbsp; In either of those circumstances, I think it weakens the chances for Strop, O'Day, Berken, and Simon to make the roster.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;My Bet&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;SP: Guthrie, Britton, Chen, Wada, Arrieta&lt;br /&gt;RP: Johnson, Gregg, Patton, Reyes, Eveland, Hunter, Strop, and O'Day&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-6965810846992511149?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/6965810846992511149/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=6965810846992511149' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/6965810846992511149'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/6965810846992511149'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2012/01/os-pitchers-option-years-and-cuts.html' title='Os Pitchers, Option Years, and Cuts'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-312122171279177889</id><published>2012-01-24T05:48:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-24T10:48:45.638-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 offseason'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Peace'/><title type='text'>O's make roster moves and what not to do on Twitter</title><content type='html'>Monday was a productive day for the Baltimore Orioles as the ballclub decided to release outfielder Kyle Hudson. Hudson, 25, was a fourth round pick in the 2008 draft out of Illinois. The young outfielder was designated for assignment to make room for recently acquired pitcher from Taiwan, Wei-Yin Chen. The Orioles had to trade or release Hudson. The team can attempt to resign Hudson, but he wont be able to play for the ballclub before May 15. In three minor league seasons Hudson put up some decent stats, .296/.375/.336 in 119 games.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;The Baltimore Sun reported that the Orioles and free agent switch hitting utility infielder Wilson Betemit have agreed on a 2 year +1 deal, pending a physical. Betemit, who played for the Detroit Tigers and Kansas City Royals last season, will provide the Orioles with some infield depth along with the additions of Ryan Flaherty and Matt Antonelli.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Betemit&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 21px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;for his career has a stat line of .296/.336/.448 with 63 homers and 243 RBIs in 1,742 plate appearances. Last season between the Tigers and the Royals Betemit went a combined .285/.343./.452 with 22 doubles, four triples, eight long balls and 46 RBIs in 97 games. The signing would be considered an On-Base percentage aisle type signing for EVBOP Dan Duquette. The O's will need to remove a player from the 40-man roster &amp;nbsp;to make room for Betemit.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Twitter has become a way to deliver the news whether it be entertainment, sports, or even the weather. News can be distributed so fast on twitter, its hard to keep up with whats current and what is old news. The speed of the news though creates some drawbacks and people will try to boost their credibility on social network sites by reporting false or made up information in hopes of making a name for themselves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;(Everybody wants to be the next Roch Kubatko, who doesn't?)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Recently, Scott Swaim who claims to have ties to MLB, tweeted that top free agent Prince Fielder was close to signing a 8 year deal with the Washington Nationals. None of the reliable and trustworthy news outlets, such as MLB, ESPN, Jon Heyman or Ken Rosenthal followed with confirmation on the Swaims news.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Former Nationals GM and ESPN Radio personality Jim Bowden did some investigating and eventually tweeted the report was untrue and that Prince Fielder hadn't nearly signed a deal with the Nats. My grandfather always told me when breaking news happens to always wait and read everything and to see what the true facts are before making a judgement on something. My guess is Swaim, was trying to stir up the hot stove and get people talking about the top free agent left on the market. I mean what else is there to do on a cold January night? Swaim even has it on his twitter that he was the one who broke the Albert Pujols to the Angels story. We live in a world where its not important that the story is accurate or not, its more important and sexy to just report the story first without any resources to back up what you are reporting. Whatever helps you get more followers and more pats on the back by your friends more power to you. But please think before you post, because when your story comes back and bites you and no one is coming to back you up, you look less credible then you already did.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-312122171279177889?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/312122171279177889/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=312122171279177889' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/312122171279177889'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/312122171279177889'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2012/01/os-make-roster-moves-and-what-not-to-do.html' title='O&apos;s make roster moves and what not to do on Twitter'/><author><name>Tom Peace</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09213238229584363410</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-B3dovSiBYqM/Txtb-RdO-wI/AAAAAAAAACY/SBM7PXYBFtQ/s220/276011_1222711671_865217_q.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-6882696374415154461</id><published>2012-01-23T23:01:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-23T23:01:13.401-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shepherd'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 offseason'/><title type='text'>Are O's Still Looking for a Left-Handed Batter?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://mike100915.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/ph2007102001507.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://mike100915.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/ph2007102001507.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Note: This column is now outdated with Betemit signing. &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dan Duquette has mentioned in the past he is looking to add a left handed bat to the team.&amp;nbsp; He has also expressed a desire to add someone with a ".380 on base percentage."&amp;nbsp; Those two things are a tough combination to find a free agent whether at the beginning or end of free agency.&amp;nbsp; At it stands, the only player who immediately appears as a fit is &lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/prince-over-pujols.html"&gt;Prince Fielder&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Fielder has been a good, but not elite first baseman.&amp;nbsp; He tends to have on and off seasons that run the inverse of the infamous Star Trek rule (Fielder's odd years have been better than his even ones 17.1 fWAR vs. 6.4 fWAR).&amp;nbsp; I think over the next eight years or so that Fielder will be a cheaper and better deal than Albert Pujols, but that he is not a great first baseman.&amp;nbsp; It is on par with players like Mark Grace, Kent Hrbek, and Glenn Davis.&amp;nbsp; Very good, but not great players.&amp;nbsp; As such, it is difficult making a good argument that Fielder is worth 25 MM a year.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, there are other options than Fielder.&amp;nbsp; These options are not as flashy or dependable as the production that Fielder will provide.&amp;nbsp; Additionally many of these second/third/fourth choices have issues with them which may explain why they are available at this late date.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nine Potential Options:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;The First Basemen&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This position is one of several where the Orioles lack prime production.&amp;nbsp; The current plan is to open the season with Chris Davis at first base.&amp;nbsp; Davis, the long time Ranger who had his moments in Arlington, will try to make a home there, but will need to improve upon his contact rate to an acceptable level (producing a .280 to .300 batting average) to be useful to the team.&amp;nbsp; The only other option there that could lead to league average or above production would be to shift Mark Reynolds back to first base.&amp;nbsp; As it stands now, Davis is a left handed batter and an additional left handed batter makes little sense with respect to a platoon.&amp;nbsp; Davis, however, could be a good offensive backup corner infielder.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Russell Branyan&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;36 years old&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;1B/DH/fringe 3B&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Branyan has been an extreme platoon hitter with a career +.105 OPS favoring his bat against right handed hitters.&amp;nbsp; His career has been one where teams have seemed to have difficulty fitting him in as he is a solid defensive 1B who was above average against righties and replacement level against lefties.&amp;nbsp; Such a player is difficult to find a spot on the bench as his role is limited to 1B and DH as well as being a target for a relief switch late in the game.&amp;nbsp; In 2009 and 2010, Branyan hit quite well against right handed pitching with 905 and 874 OPS in Seattle and Cleveland.&amp;nbsp; In 2011, the wheels feel off and had a line of 198/293/388 in 133 plate appearances.&amp;nbsp; Optimism can be found for this year as his BABIP was 50 points below his normal level.&amp;nbsp; BABIP tends to regress to a player's average BABIP.&amp;nbsp; The cause for concern though that I see is that Branyan also saw a collapse in his ISO.&amp;nbsp; He would be worth a Minor League invite.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Casey Kotchman&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;29 years old&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;1B&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kotchman has had high expectations placed up him, placing in the top 100 prospects for Baseball America in 2002 (22nd), 2003 (13th), 2004 (15th), and 2005 (6th).&amp;nbsp; He was known for plus contact, plus discipline, and plus defense.&amp;nbsp; The hope was that his gap power would play up as he matured.&amp;nbsp; After a solid rookie year, his hitting sputtered out.&amp;nbsp; The Angels eventually gave up on him and he moved around to Atlanta, Boston, and Seattle.&amp;nbsp; Last year, everything came together again playing for the Rays.&amp;nbsp; He showed a good hit rate (potentially inflated by a high BABIP) and played good defense.&amp;nbsp; The Rays apparently did not believe his performance last season was in line with his talent level and chose to pay Carlos Pena instead.&amp;nbsp; Kotchman would probably be a good play if the team did not already have Davis.&amp;nbsp; I find him an improvement on Davis, but not remarkably so.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;The Third Baseman&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is a matter of discussion when trying to determine whether Mark Reynolds is going back to third base because he is best suited there due to his skills or Chris Davis' shoulder.&amp;nbsp; A platoon might work here with the left handed third baseman taking third and pushing Reynolds to first or DH when facing a right handed starting pitcher.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wilson Betemit&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;30 years old&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;INF/DH&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Betemit is likely looking for a starting gig.&amp;nbsp; He has predominantly played third base and he has defensively played that position quite poorly.&amp;nbsp; Betemit keeps himself in lineups because he has keep his 800 or above OPS.&amp;nbsp; He actually profiles as an extremely good platoon player with a career long 817 OPS against right handers and a 684 OPS against left handers.&amp;nbsp; His defense is no worse than Reynolds', so he might be a decent choice as a 3B or DH against right handers and a left handed bat off the bench in cross handed matchups.&amp;nbsp; He could also stand in at 2B or 1B in a pinch.&amp;nbsp; He has never played the outfield.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;The Left Fielders&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Left Field is another area of some instability for the Orioles.&amp;nbsp; They have seemed relatively unconvinced that Nolan Reimold was an appropriate solution for the past several years.&amp;nbsp; The team has tried to play Felix Pie, Corey Patterson, Kyle Hudson, Matt Angle, and now perhaps Endy Chavez instead of using Reimold.&amp;nbsp; Chavez, a lefty, has been rumored as being used as a platoon player, but lacks the bat to be effectively used.&amp;nbsp; It may benefit the team more by relegating Chavez to being a backup centerfielder and use a more legitimate bat to pair up with Reimold.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Johnny Damon&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;38 years old&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;DH/LF&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Damon was signed on the cheap by the Rays last year and was thrust into the lineup as a full timer.&amp;nbsp; He showed himself to be unable to play the field and that his bat had deteriorated.&amp;nbsp; The Orioles have been tied to him, but he would likely be an inflexible player who would be a detriment offensively. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Carlos Guillen&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;36 years old &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;DH/LF/1B/fringe INF&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Guillen has not been a major contributor in the past three seasons.&amp;nbsp; He still shows a powerful bat and a decent eye, but he no longer appears able to make enough contact.&amp;nbsp; Pitchers appear to be going after him more directly than they use to.&amp;nbsp; However, he does show more flexibility than Damon and that means Guillen can stand around poorly defending more positions than Damon.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Raul Ibanez&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;40 years old &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;DH/LF&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ibanez is not a adequate defender.&amp;nbsp; He hasn't been for years.&amp;nbsp; For the Phillies, he had a good half season and the rest went to pot.&amp;nbsp; Ibanez still does relatively well against right handed batters.&amp;nbsp; He is the type of player I imagine that the old Andy MacPhail regime would be interested in.&amp;nbsp; Ibanez had a down year last year and someone might take a chance that he could find his stroke again.&amp;nbsp; I doubt he can though.&amp;nbsp; He just does not have the bat speed anymore. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;J.D. Drew&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;36 years old &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;RF/LF/DH &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Drew suffered from a shoulder impingement and a fractured finger which resulted in an awful season last year.&amp;nbsp; He has said that he would continue playing only if he found the right, winning situation.&amp;nbsp; Many players waiting for contracts have said that and it remains to be seen what Drew will do.&amp;nbsp; If his shoulder is fixed, then it would be an easy decision to sign him and slot him in left field.&amp;nbsp; Without looking at his medicals, he appears to me as a great buy low candidate.&amp;nbsp; I would not want to spend more than 3-4 MM on him and would not wish to promise him a starting slot.&amp;nbsp; The latter contingency may be difficult in convincing him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Kosuke Fukudome&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;35 years old&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;RF/LF/DH&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When the Cubs signed Fukudome they expected a superstar.&amp;nbsp; What they got was a very good season, two average ones, and a mess of a final season.&amp;nbsp; His numbers in Japan actually translated quite well with a high OBP.&amp;nbsp; Somehow the frenzy of a top notch foreign player coming to the US escalated the cost beyond reason.&amp;nbsp; Although he did not perform according to expectations, that does not make Fukudome a worthless player.&amp;nbsp; Even last year's evaporation of any sense of power, Fukudome maintained an OBP over .350 against lefties.&amp;nbsp; He could be useful as a 5th outfielder and an OBP focused platoon player against righties.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;The Designated Hitter&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One thing has remained the same even though there was a regime change: the expressed desire to keep DH duties open to give players rest.&amp;nbsp; In the MacPhail era, this often unraveled into reserving the DH position to full time players like Aubrey Huff, Luke Scott, and Vladimir Guerrero.&amp;nbsp; As the Duquette era begins, does he go out and sign a full time DH?&amp;nbsp; Damon, Guillen, and Ibanez likely would qualify as that.&amp;nbsp; So would our last option.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Hideki Matsui&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;38 years old &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;DH&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Athletics have tried for the past several seasons to take advantage of a cheap way to improve offensive production: strict DH bats.&amp;nbsp; This included Mike Piazza, Frank Thomas, Jack Cust, and then Hideki Matsui.&amp;nbsp; This approach has not exactly gone well for the Athletics.&amp;nbsp; The poor success rate is likely a reason why it is relatively cheap to use this approach.&amp;nbsp; Before last year, Matsui was a 850 OPS performer against right handed pitching.&amp;nbsp; Last year, he was at 654.&amp;nbsp; I don't see him bouncing back.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Conclusion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I see J.D. Drew, Wilson Betemit, or Casey Kotchman as the three targets that would be ideal.&amp;nbsp; They are players with good reason for optimism and an outside chance of being useful in a deal that would bring back a B level player.&amp;nbsp; That said, if the sole play is for a B level prospect then the cost at hand should be no more than 5 MM.&amp;nbsp; Adjust for the probability of these players being tradable and I would be comfortable offering 3 MM with incentives.&amp;nbsp; The only other one of these eight that I would be OK with offering a MLB contract would be Kosuke Fukudome.&amp;nbsp; I could see offering him a base pay of 1.5 MM with incentives.&amp;nbsp; There really are not a lot of great choices.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-6882696374415154461?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/6882696374415154461/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=6882696374415154461' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/6882696374415154461'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/6882696374415154461'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2012/01/are-os-still-looking-for-left-handed.html' title='Are O&apos;s Still Looking for a Left-Handed Batter?'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-2773022596264291609</id><published>2012-01-23T06:06:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-23T19:33:49.133-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Peace'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Arrivals and Departures'/><title type='text'>Arrivals and Departures: Peace and the 40 Man Roster</title><content type='html'>I have finally found a forum and a website that has given me the opportunity to speak my mind about the Baltimore Orioles. For so long, I have been searching various Oriole message boards and blogs for a place to contribute to the daily news surrounding the ball club and Camden Depot has graciously given me the space to do that. First let me introduce myself, I'm born and raised in Baltimore and have been an Orioles fan since Cal Ripken Jr. made the winning catch in the World Series in 1983. I have been in the radio business for the last ten years working as a producer and reporter for CBS Radio. Throughout my time as a reporter I have covered the Orioles, Ravens, Maryland Terps Basketball and Football for &lt;a href="http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/station/1057-the-fan/"&gt;105.7 The Fan&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.espnradio1300.com/main.html"&gt;ESPN Radio 1300AM&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;My desire to write about sports began two years ago when I took a fun writing course in college and ever since I have been helping out with writing about Lacrosse for &lt;a href="http://espn.go.com/high-school/lacrosse/"&gt;ESPNHS.com&lt;/a&gt; and have covered high school sports for &lt;a href="http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/sports/"&gt;The Carroll County Times&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I have always wanted to write about the Orioles. I occasionally will go over and chime in on the message boards at &lt;a href="http://forum.orioleshangout.com/forums/"&gt;Orioleshangout.com&lt;/a&gt;. But adding posts and creating threads can get fun for only so long. My passion is to cover the team and bring the latest news coming out of the warehouse to you the reader. With my experience as a reporter and the love I have for the Orioles I feel we will have a lot of fun here on Camden Depot.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;---- &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;So lets dive in to what has been going on so far this offseason for the Birds. Executive Vice President of Baseball Operations (wow that is a long title to type out, would you be cool if I called Dan the EVPBO?) Dan Duquette has stepped into Andy MacPhail's role and has made some significant changes to the front office. Since taking the role as the EVPBO, Duquette has brought his own people in from his days when he was with the Boston Red Sox and the Montreal Expos. Its pretty impressive what Duquette has been able to do with the changes in the front office and the scouting department considering the fact that GM candidate Tony LaCava said he wasn't allowed to mess with the cupboard. The hires in particular that stand out to me so far are Rick Peterson, who will be the Director of Pitcher Development and has a lengthy track record of helping pitchers and former Orioles centerfielder Brady Anderson who will be Duquette's special assistant and will oversee the conditioning and fitness of the ball club. Both moves I see will be beneficial for the ball club and have been needed in the organization for a long time.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;But moving along, the Orioles have also made some changes to the 40 man roster and Duquette has made it no secret that he wants to shop in the pitchers aisle and the high on-base percentage aisle. And with the moves so far you can tell he is not leaving a stone unturned. Even though the additions have been made it is also interesting to take into account with the 2012 season approaching, where everyone on the 40-man roster stands with the option years. Orioleshangout poster CrazySilver did a nice breakdown, provided by COTS, on how the options work and where each player stands.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #eeeeee;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq" style="color: #eeeeee;"&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Options&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;An option (optional assignment) allows a club to move a player on its 40-man roster to and from the minor-leagues without exposing him to the other 29 teams.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;After 4 or 5 years as a professional, a player must be added to his club's 40-man roster or exposed to the 29 other clubs in the Rule 5 draft. (A club has 5 years to evaluate a player who signs his first pro contract at 18 years old or younger, but only 4 years to decide on a player who signs at age 19.) For purposes of calculating years as a pro, the counting begins the day a player signs his first pro contract, not the season he begins to play.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;When a player is added to the 40-man roster, his club has three options, or three separate seasons during which the club may to move him to and from the minor leagues without exposing him to other clubs. A player on the 40-man roster playing in the minors is on optional assignment, and within an option season, there is no limit on the number of times a club may demote and recall a player. However, a player optioned to the minor leagues may not be recalled for at least 10 days, unless the club places a Major League player on the disabled list during the 10-day window.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;After three options are exhausted, the player is out of options. Beginning with the next season, he must clear waivers before he may be sent to the minors again. See Waivers. Additionally, a player with 5 years of Major League service may not be sent to the minor leagues on an optional assignment without his consent.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Counting option years&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;- If a player is not sent to the minors during a year, an option is not used.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;- If a player is on the 40-man roster in spring training but optioned to the minors before the season begins, an option is used.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;- If a player's optional assignment(s) to the minors total less than 20 days in one season, an option is not used.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;- A player may be eligible for a fourth option year if he has been optioned in three seasons but does not yet have five full seasons of professional experience. A full season is defined as being on an active pro roster for at least 90 days in a season. (If a player is put on the disabled list after earning 60 or more days of service in a single season, his time on the DL is counted.) The 90-day requirement means short-season leagues (New-York Penn, Northwest, Pioneer, Appalachian, Gulf Coast, Arizona Rookie, Dominican and Venezuelan Summer Leagues) do not count as full seasons for the purposes of determining eligibility for a fourth option.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="color: #eeeeee;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #eeeeee;"&gt;The following is the 40 man roster as it stands.&amp;nbsp; Again, this list is largely informed by the work mentioned above. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #eeeeee;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq" style="color: #eeeeee;"&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Adams, Ryan&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 2/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: Adams was brought up to replace Brian Roberts in May 2011. He was optioned after only getting a handful of starts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Andino, Robert&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 0/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: The Marlins purchased his contract on 9/2/2005. He was optioned for the first time on 3/25/2006. He was optioned for a second time on 3/23/2007. He was optioned for a third and final time on 5/25/2008. Andino was sent outright to AAA Norfolk at the end of Spring Training 2010 with the acquisition of Julio Lugo from the St. Louis Cardinals. He was later added back to the 40 man roster in September 2010 and remained on the roster over the winter.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Angle, Matt&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 2/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: Angle was added to the 40 man roster in November 2010. Angle was optioned at the end of ST 2011.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Antonelli, Matt&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 1/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: Contract purchased 9/1/2008 and optioned on 3/23/2009 and 3/28/2010.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Arrieta, Jake&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 3/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: Arrieta's contract was purchased on June 11th 2010 to make his major debut against the New York Yankees.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bell, Josh&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 1/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: Bell had his contract purchased in November 2009. He was optioned for the first time following Spring Training 2010. He was optioned for the second time following Spring Training 2011.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bergesen, Brad&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 0/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: The Orioles purchased his contract on 11/18/2008 to protect him from the Rule 5 draft. He was optioned to the minors for the first time on 3/21/2009. Bergesen was sent to the minors on 4/20/2010 but was recalled on 5/1/2010. Bergesen was optioned to the minors again on 6/14/2010 and remained in the minors for more than 20 days throughout the season. Bergesen was optioned to the minors for four days in 2011, from 4/9 to 4/13 before being recalled for an injured starter. He was later optioned on 5/29/11.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Berken, Jason&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 2/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: The Orioles purchased his contract on May 26th 2009. Berken was optioned to Norfolk on 5/26/2011 to help him work on his command.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Britton, Zach&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 3/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: Britton was added to the 40 man roster in November 2010. Britton was optioned on 3/29/2011 but was recalled on 4/3/2011 so an option year was not used.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Bundy, Dylan&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 4/4&lt;br /&gt;Reason: Bundy was added to the 40 man roster upon signing in August 2011.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Chavez, Endy&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 0/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: Chavez no longer qualifies for options.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Chen, Wei-Yin&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 3/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: Signed by Baltimore as a Free Agent on 1/10/2012.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Davis, Chris&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 0/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: Contract purchased on 6/26/2008 and optioned on 7/6/2009, 4/23/2010, and 3/29/2011.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Drake, Oliver&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 3/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: Drake was added to the 40 man roster in November 2011.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Eveland, Dana&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 0/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: Eveland was acquired via trade in December 2011 and is without options.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Gregg, Kevin&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 0/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: Gregg is in the last year of his free agent contract.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Guthrie, Jeremy&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 0/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: With the Cleveland Indians, Guthrie exhausted all of his option years.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Flaherty, Ryan&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 3/3 (Rule 5 draftee, cannot use options in 2012)&lt;br /&gt;Reason: Flaherty was drafted in Rule 5 draft in December 2011.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Hardy, J.J.&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 0/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: Hardy has signed an extension and no longer qualifies for options.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Hunter, Tommy&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 0/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: Rangers purchased his contract in 2008 and was optioned in each season subsequently.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Johnson, Jim&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 0/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: The Orioles purchased Johnson's contract on 11/18/2005. The Orioles optioned Johnson to the minors for the first time on 3/16/2006. On 3/12/2007, the Orioles optioned Johnson to the minors for a second time. The Orioles optioned Johnson to the minors in March of 2008, but he spent less than 20 days in the minors so his optional assignment is withdrawn. Johnson was optioned to Norfolk on 5/1/2010 to make room for the returning Brad Bergesen on the major league roster. Johnson was recalled on 5/28/2010 and placed on the major league DL, unfortunately, the final option was used.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Jones, Adam&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 1/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: Contract was purchased on 7/14/2006 and optioned on 8/22/2006 and 4/1/2007.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Mahoney, Joe&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 2/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: Mahoney was added to the 40 man roster in November 2010. Mahoney was optioned to the minors for the first time during Spring Training 2011.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Markakis, Nick&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 0/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: No longer qualifies.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Matusz, Brian&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 2/4&lt;br /&gt;Reason: Matusz signed a MLB out of the draft with options used on 3/14/2009 and 6/30/2011.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Miller, Jai&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 0/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: Contract purchased on 11/20/2007 and optioned on 3/10/2008, 3/13/2009, and 4/8/2010.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;O'Day, Darren&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 1/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: Contract was purchased on 3/29/2008.&amp;nbsp; Options were used on 5/13/2008 and on 7/14/2011.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Patton, Troy&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 0/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: On 8/25/2007, Patton had his contract purchased by the Astros after completing his fourth season in the minors. Patton remained with the Astros throughout September of 2007. Patton was optioned in Spring Training 2009 and 2010. Patton was optioned for a final time during Spring Training 2011.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Phillips, Zach&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 1/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: Contract was purchased on 11/19/2009 with options executed on 3/17/2010 and 3/12/2011.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Rapada, Clay&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 0/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: Contract was purchased in 11/20/2006 with options executed on 3/12/2007, 3/30/2008, and 4/1/2009&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Reimold, Nolan&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 0/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: Reimold had his contract purchased on 11/18/2008 to protect him from the Rule 5 draft. He was optioned for the first time during Spring Training 2009. After opening up with a horrendous beginning to his 2010 season, Reimold was sent to Norfolk to work out some of his issues in May and has remained in Norfolk. Reimold was optioned for a final time at the end of ST 2011.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Reynolds, Mark&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 0/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: No longer qualifies for options.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Roberts, Brian&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 0/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: No longer qualifies for options.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Simon, Alfredo&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 0/3&lt;br /&gt;Story: Had his contract purchased by the Phillies on 11/19/2003. He was optioned for the first time on 3/13/2004 by the Phillies. Upon being traded to the Giants during the 2004 season, he was optioned for a 2nd time on 3/14/2005. He was optioned for a 3rd and final time on 3/13/2006. He was sent outright to the minors on 7/29/2006.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Strop, Pedro&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 1/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: Contract purchased on 8/27/2009 and optioned on 3/24/2010 and 5/4/2011.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Teagarden, Taylor&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 0/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: Contract purchased 7/18/2008 and optioned on 7/21/2008, 4/27/2010, and 3/29/2011.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Tillman, Chris&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 1/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: The Orioles purchased his contract on 7/29/2009 to make his major league debut against Kansas City. Tillman was optioned to the minors for the first time during Spring Training 2010. Tillman was optioned to the minors on 5/29/2011.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;VandenHurk, Rick&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 0/3&lt;br /&gt;Reasons: The Marlins optioned Vandenhurk in 2008, 2009, and 2010. He was acquired by the Orioles for Will Ohman at the trade deadline in 2010 and was consequently sent down to Norfolk.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Wada, Tsuyoshi&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 3/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: Wada was signed as a free agent on 12/14/2011.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Wieters, Matt&lt;br /&gt;Options Remaining: 3/3&lt;br /&gt;Reason: Contract purchased on 5/29/2009.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Four Options Remaining:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;D.Bundy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Three Options Remaining:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;J. Arrieta, Z.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Britton, O. Drake&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;M. Wieters&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Two Options Remaining:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;R. Adams, M. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Angle, B. Matusz, J. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Mahoney&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;One Option Remaining:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;J. Bell, A. Jones, D. O'Day, Z. Phillips, P. Strop, C. Til&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;lman&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Zero Options Remaining:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;R. Andino, B. Bergesen, E. Chavez, W. Chen, C. Davis, D. Eveland, K. Gregg, J. Guthrie, R. Flaherty, J. Hardy, T. Hunter, J. Johnson, N. Markakis, J. Miller, T. Patton, C. Rapada, N. Reimold, M. Reynolds, B. Roberts, A. Simon, T. Teagarden, R. Vandenhurk, T. Wada &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="color: #eeeeee;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;We will be following the option year process with each player throughout the season. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-2773022596264291609?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/2773022596264291609/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=2773022596264291609' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/2773022596264291609'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/2773022596264291609'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2012/01/arrivals-and-departues-peace-and-40-man.html' title='Arrivals and Departures: Peace and the 40 Man Roster'/><author><name>Tom Peace</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09213238229584363410</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-B3dovSiBYqM/Txtb-RdO-wI/AAAAAAAAACY/SBM7PXYBFtQ/s220/276011_1222711671_865217_q.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-2796922224019598328</id><published>2012-01-22T08:31:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-22T08:31:07.736-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Cup of jO's: Pita Rona and Kim Sung-min</title><content type='html'>As many have noted, two of the players the Orioles have signed this week are 17 and hail from New Zealand and South Korea.&amp;nbsp; I know next to nothing about these players, but have been asked repeatedly about them.&amp;nbsp; What I know about Rona is that he is an athletic softball player who played in the infield and needs help in refining his baseball mechanics.&amp;nbsp; Sung-min is a left handed pitcher who was mentioned in a Korean paper as being a top notch prospect.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What does this all mean?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't really know.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The odds are long against Rona.&amp;nbsp; No Kiwi has ever made the climb to play in the majors.&amp;nbsp; Australia has been able to punch in a baseball player into the bigs on almost a yearly basis, but no one from New Zealand has had the honor.&amp;nbsp; Toronto's Scott Richmond is often mentioned as the sole citizen of New Zealand to play in the Majors, which he is through his father who was born in Aukland.&amp;nbsp; Richmond, as best as I can tell, was born and lived most of his life in British Columbia.&amp;nbsp; In BC, they actually have advanced amateur baseball.&amp;nbsp; In NZ, softball is the most dominant stick and ball game.&amp;nbsp; It is pretty difficult to take mechanics learned from softball and seamlessly transition to baseball.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'd have to say the best baseball prospect New Zealand has yielded has been Scott Campbell.&amp;nbsp; He was an infielder in the Blue Jays' system.&amp;nbsp; His calling card was a solid average and strong plate discipline.&amp;nbsp; However, he tore his groin in 2009 and chose to rehab the injury.&amp;nbsp; It did not get better, so he had surgery to repair his hip labrum and missed all of 2010.&amp;nbsp; The next Spring Training, the hip was still an issue.&amp;nbsp; Further review found that his femur was oddly shaped and would continually tear at his labrum, so he had another surgery and missed all of 2011.&amp;nbsp; The Jays are hoping that they can bring him along at 3B and see what he can do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Red Sox have been particularly active in New Zealand, signing brothers Mona and Boss Moanaroa in 2008 and Te Wara Bishop in 2011.&amp;nbsp; Mona Moanaroa took three years to emerge from rookie ball, but looked decent in short season A ball if you solely look at the numbers.&amp;nbsp; He displays good discipline and power.&amp;nbsp; Boss, on the other hand, appears to be a bit of a free swinger.&amp;nbsp; I think Bishop was still in the academy last year.&amp;nbsp; I think a major problem for many of these players acclimating to baseball is probably their swing.&amp;nbsp; A severe uppercut swing that works in softball does not work well in baseball because the bat moves too quickly through the zone.&amp;nbsp; The limits the amount of contact that can be produced.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;South Korea, on the other hand, is a nation that has produced several baseball players.&amp;nbsp; However, if the Orioles did in fact sign the best amateur in South Korea...it may not exactly mean much.&amp;nbsp; There are years where the talent out of Korea is very good and years where it is not.&amp;nbsp; I think if we compare these nations to the talent produced by states in the United States.&amp;nbsp; I would compare South Korea to Rhode Island and New Zealand to maybe Wyoming.&amp;nbsp; That said, the populations of South Korea and New Zealand are greater than those respective states, meaning that the potential to find talent is greater than those states.&amp;nbsp; The problem is often having the proper infrastructure and instruction in place to develop players who will succeed in the American game.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, to answer your question about what does it mean that the O's have sign Pita Rona and Kim Sung-min?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am not really sure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;iframe frameborder="0" height="324" src="http://d.yimg.com/nl/australia/nz-lifestyle/player.html#browseCarouselUI=hide&amp;amp;repeat=0&amp;amp;playbackStart=0&amp;amp;shareUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fnz.lifestyle.yahoo.com%2Fvideo%2Fwatch%2F27925161&amp;amp;vid=27925161" width="576"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-2796922224019598328?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/2796922224019598328/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=2796922224019598328' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/2796922224019598328'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/2796922224019598328'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2012/01/cup-of-jos-pita-rona-and-kim-sung-min.html' title='Cup of jO&apos;s: Pita Rona and Kim Sung-min'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-441872735950196765</id><published>2012-01-21T18:00:00.005-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-21T18:00:43.560-05:00</updated><title type='text'>For the Post FanFest Hangover</title><content type='html'>Enjoy!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; 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text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://metsmerizedonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/p1_rick_peterson.jpeg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://metsmerizedonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/p1_rick_peterson.jpeg" width="207" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Rick Peterson and his &lt;i&gt;pitching lab&lt;/i&gt; will apparently be in full effect for the Orioles in 2012.&amp;nbsp; His analytical technique has been hailed as a major prevention tool against injuries.&amp;nbsp; I have disabled list numbers of starting pitchers from part of his tenure with the A's and all of his tenure with the Mets, giving us a time line from 2001 to 2007.&amp;nbsp; I also have disabled numbers of Orioles' starting pitchers in 2009 and 2010.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rick Peterson&lt;br /&gt;2001 - No starting pitchers visited the DL&lt;br /&gt;2002 - 3 DL visits, 84 missed days&lt;br /&gt;2003 - 3, 60&lt;br /&gt;2004 - 3, 91&lt;br /&gt;2005 - 3, 205&lt;br /&gt;2006 - 5, 382&lt;br /&gt;2007 - 3, 215&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am not sure what to make of the above except to note that much of the injury issues with the Mets were with aging retreads as they tried to fill out their pitching rotation for another post season run.&amp;nbsp; I look at those numbers and they appear to be quite impressive.&amp;nbsp; Although, he did have one of the more unfortunate statements to have been uttered during his time with the Mets.&amp;nbsp; He noted that he could fix Victor Zambrano's performance in "ten minutes" while Scott Kazmir was at least three years from performing in the big leagues.&amp;nbsp; Zambrano, as many expected, quickly fell apart and Kazmir becames the Rays' ace.&amp;nbsp; At the time and in hindsight, it was an awful deal and incredibly perplexing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, looking at the Orioles&lt;br /&gt;2009 - 4, 304&lt;br /&gt;2010 - 4, 192&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That does not appear to be much different than the end of Peterson's run with the Mets.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In a future post, I hope to get into these numbers a bit deeper.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-7275348957010770883?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/7275348957010770883/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=7275348957010770883' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/7275348957010770883'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/7275348957010770883'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2012/01/cup-o-jos-rick-peterson-and-os-arms.html' title='Cup o&apos; jO&apos;s: Rick Peterson and the O&apos;s Arms'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-3767616543911346948</id><published>2012-01-18T06:00:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-18T06:00:07.443-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shepherd'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 offseason'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Potential Trade'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Adam Jones'/><title type='text'>Trading Adam Jones: AL Central Edition</title><content type='html'>The post will focus on a baseline that was suggested by a scout.&amp;nbsp; So, yes, the opinion of a single professional is how we will value Jones' worth here.&amp;nbsp; What is that worth?&amp;nbsp; It was posited that Adam Jones would be worth a top 25 player, a top 50 player, and a top 100 player.&amp;nbsp; In other words, I would translate this as meaning a A-, B+ and B level player.&amp;nbsp; One final way of looking at it, a 60, a 56, and a 52.&amp;nbsp; That means that some in this business think very highly of Adam Jones.&amp;nbsp; We at the Depot have not thought as highly of Jones in the past, but what matters is who values him the most.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This fourth part will focus on packages from AL Central teams.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Chicago White Sox&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Dayan Viciedo, RF&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Addison Reed, RP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Gordon Beckham, INF&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think it is often a good exercise to go through and look at each team.&amp;nbsp; How each team matches up.&amp;nbsp; The White Sox are obviously a poor fit.&amp;nbsp; Right now they are going through an Orioles style rebuilding project.&amp;nbsp; That basically means that are trading away fringe value pieces and inexplicably holding onto their guys with real value.&amp;nbsp; Their minors is thin which hurts teams wanting young players in return and works against the ChiSox's new goal to beef up their system.&amp;nbsp; A deal here centers on Dayan Viciedo who is a promising player, but there are questions about his hitting approach with poor discipline and a need for more power.&amp;nbsp; Much of the hope statistically on him is based on his rapid improvement in walk rate as he faced AAA pitching for the second year in a row.&amp;nbsp; The other major piece is the struggling Gordon Beckham.&amp;nbsp; Beckham promising breakout in 2009 is now overshadowed by poor 2010 and 2011 campaigns.&amp;nbsp; He has developed a habit of chasing really bad pitches.&amp;nbsp; He is a reclamation project.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Cleveland Indians&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Matt LaPorta, 1B&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Jason Kipnis, 2B&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Michael Brantley, LF&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Indians system thinned out a bit with last year's acquisition of Ubaldo Jimenez.&amp;nbsp; Otherwise, LHP Drew Pomeranz would have been the target here.&amp;nbsp; The second target would be Jason Kipnis.&amp;nbsp; I have always been a big Kipnis fan, lobbying hard in 2009 for Nick to draft him in our Orioles shadow draft.&amp;nbsp; He logged 150 plate appearances last year and showed a strong bat and the potential to stick it out at second base.&amp;nbsp; I think the team control on him and his offensive production will make him a hard target to acquire, but one you have to insist on.&amp;nbsp; The bat certainly looks real, but with his difficulties at second the bat looks not quite as shiny if it needs to be moved to left field.&amp;nbsp; I also focused on acquiring a couple disappointing prospects and second tier arm.&amp;nbsp; Matt LaPorta and Michael Brantley are two prospects who came over in the CC Sabathia deal and have disappointed.&amp;nbsp; LaPorta has never shown the power and contact rate he displayed in the minors.&amp;nbsp; He does not have much more rope left.&amp;nbsp; In Michael Brantley the Indians have someone who has logged a couple years and is approaching his more expensive team controlled years.&amp;nbsp; His two major failings in the Majors have been a lack of meaningful contact and an inability to hit left handed pitching.&amp;nbsp; Adding a little more salt to the wound, his approach in left field leaves one wanting, but he does have the ability to be average if not better out there. Brantley could also be exchanged out for someone like Zach McAllister.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Detroit Tigers&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Casey Crosby, LHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Nick Castellanos, 3B&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Andrew Oliver, LHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Tigers at first look like a bad fit with Austin Jackson in center.&amp;nbsp; However, Jones is a clear upgrade to Jackson with the bat and potentially with the glove.&amp;nbsp; The Tigers could also pay deference to Jackson and shift Jones to a corner position.&amp;nbsp; However, shifting Jones to a corner position reduces his value to the team and makes him less of an attractive piece to acquire.&amp;nbsp; Additionally, the Tigers give up good pieces that should be of use to them.&amp;nbsp; Crosby and Oliver are not far away from potentially providing meaningful contributions to the big league club. Castellanos is a very good prospect who could be developed by the club or dealt for a player that more fits the team's needs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Kansas City Royals&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Wil Myers, LF&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Christian Colon, INF&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tim Melville, RHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This trade almost makes sense if not for the Royals being set in their outfield.&amp;nbsp; Alex Gordon finally accomplished with his bat what everyone thought he was capable of doing.&amp;nbsp; Jeff Francoeur had a career year.&amp;nbsp; Melky Cabrera broke out big in a career year as well.&amp;nbsp; All of these guys were in their age 26 or 27 year, so it makes some sense that these performance may be real and qualify as what one might expect from their peak seasons.&amp;nbsp; For a team like the Royals it would make more sense to use any trade chips to beef up their pitching instead of going after Jones.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Minnesota Twins&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Miguel Sano, 1B/LF&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Eddie Rosario, OF&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Niko Goodrum, SS&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Budget issues, Denard Span, and stopgap Ben Revere make this a difficult place for Jones to land.&amp;nbsp; Add that to the general feeling that the Twins are trying to retool as opposed to push for the playoffs and it just does not seem like a fit.&amp;nbsp; Sano would be the prize here.&amp;nbsp; Oriole fans can often be heard gnashing their teeth when hearing of Sano because the Orioles were turned off by his 3.5 MM price tag and instead took that money along with another million, investing it in Garret Atkins.&amp;nbsp; Good times.&amp;nbsp; Of course, Sano is still a very raw hitter who strikes out far more than should against not too advanced hitting.&amp;nbsp; He is young and could develop into a monster bat.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Conclusion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Adam Jones simply does not appear to easily fit for any team in this division.&amp;nbsp; The White Sox and Indians appear not to be in the market for Jones and their packages rely far too much on reclamation projects with too much service time already used.&amp;nbsp; I could see the Tigers being interested as they fill out their outfield.&amp;nbsp; It appears they are set with Jackson in center and Delmon Young in left field.&amp;nbsp; The Royals have the young talent to offer, but they sport an outfield that is entering into their peaks years and is reasonably priced.&amp;nbsp; I also simply do not see the Twins choosing to spend so much to fill a position that they already have coverage with the difficulties they face with their budget allocations already.&amp;nbsp; However, of those deals...I'd like to find something with the Royals and then the Tigers.&amp;nbsp; It still appears the only logical place so far for Jones to go is Atlanta.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-3767616543911346948?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/3767616543911346948/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=3767616543911346948' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/3767616543911346948'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/3767616543911346948'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2012/01/trading-adam-jones-al-central-edition.html' title='Trading Adam Jones: AL Central Edition'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-7710131485009068077</id><published>2012-01-17T17:53:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-17T18:06:43.175-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Kyle Hudson'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shepherd'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 offseason'/><title type='text'>Kyle Hudson's Draft Excluded Status</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Kyle_Hudson_on_September_12,_2011.jpg/240px-Kyle_Hudson_on_September_12,_2011.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Kyle_Hudson_on_September_12,_2011.jpg/240px-Kyle_Hudson_on_September_12,_2011.jpg" width="198" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;In one of his posts, Roch Kubatko &lt;a href="http://www.masnsports.com/school_of_roch/2012/01/duquette-talks-about-peterson-arbitration-and-cespedes.html"&gt;wrote&lt;/a&gt; the following:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;Hudson can't be placed on waivers and outrighted to the minors before March because he's "draft excluded." The Orioles must trade or release him. They can re-sign him if he's released, but he can't play for them before May 15.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Roch apparently believes that surrounding mystery around quotation marked designations improves the beauty of sports journalism, I guess.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What does it mean to be draft excluded?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is a player who begins the season as a minor leaguer who would be eligible for that December's Rule 5 draft and is added to the 40 man roster between the draft signing date (August 15th) and the deadline for the Rule 5 draft.&amp;nbsp; This player can be traded at any time during his draft excluded status, but cannot be designated for assignment until 20 days prior to opening day.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Therefore, Kyle Hudson, a draft excluded player by being added to the 40 man roster in September, must pass through waivers and given his outright release.&amp;nbsp; Apparently, there is a May 15th deadline as well that I did not know was in effect.&amp;nbsp; This means that Kyle Hudson will not be an Orioles in 2012.&amp;nbsp; He will sign with someone else assuming the May 15th date is correct.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is the specific language?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;MLR 6 (e)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;DRAFT-EXCLUDED PLAYERS. A player who is excluded from selection in a Rule 5 Selection Meeting because the player was promoted to a Major League Reserve List after August 15 of the championship season preceding the selection meeting and remains on a Major League Reserve List through the conclusion of such selection meeting shall be referred to as a "draft-excluded player." A draft-excluded player shall not be directed to perform for, assigned to, or otherwise transferred to a Minor League Club unless the player first receives a trial with the player's Major League Club lasting until 20 days before the opening day of the following Major League season. See Rule 10(e)(6) (Restrictions on Waiver Requests) for rules concerning when waivers may be requested on a player who would become a draft-excluded player and Rule 10(d)(5)(B) (Consideration for Assignment of Player; Selected or Draft-Excluded Player) for rules concerning the waiver claim price for a draft-excluded player.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Rule 10(e)(6)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;Assignment waivers may not be requested on the contract of a player who stands to become a draft-excluded player, as described in Rule 6(e), during the period beginning five days following the last day of the World Series and ending 25 days prior to the opening of the championship season of the year following the year the player became a draft-excluded player. If waivers are obtained, no assignment may be made pursuant to such waivers until 20 days prior to the opening of the championship season of said year.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I do not see anything about May 15th. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-7710131485009068077?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/7710131485009068077/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=7710131485009068077' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/7710131485009068077'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/7710131485009068077'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2012/01/kyle-hudsons-draft-excluded-status.html' title='Kyle Hudson&apos;s Draft Excluded Status'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-4350102086909962442</id><published>2012-01-16T08:00:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-16T08:00:15.428-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shepherd'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 offseason'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mark Reynolds'/><title type='text'>Is Reynolds Going Back to Third the Best Move?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.baltimoresun.com/media/photo/2011-07/63025417.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="195" src="http://www.baltimoresun.com/media/photo/2011-07/63025417.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Last week it was &lt;a href="http://baltimore.orioles.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120112&amp;amp;content_id=26325584&amp;amp;vkey=news_bal&amp;amp;c_id=bal"&gt;announced&lt;/a&gt; that Mark Reynolds reprieve from third base has ended and he will return to the position that so flummoxed him in 2011.&amp;nbsp; It was an awful season.&amp;nbsp; A season where many of us winced when batted balls suggested they were heading to the hot corner.&amp;nbsp; Over at &lt;a href="http://www.camdenchat.com/2012/1/13/2703496/should-the-orioles-just-install-a-pole-at-third-base"&gt;Camden Chat&lt;/a&gt;, Andrew expressed his negative reaction upon hearing the news.&amp;nbsp; I would be surprised if he was alone in his frustration.&amp;nbsp; Me?&amp;nbsp; I shrugged.&amp;nbsp; I find myself shrugging a lot lately.&amp;nbsp; In this post, I would like to go beyond shrugging and try to understand what Reynolds did last year and how that informs us on what should be done with him this year given the current roster.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, it is good to look at the numbers in a historical context.&amp;nbsp; In 114 games at third, Reynolds' defense was measured as -18 runs there.&amp;nbsp; That equals what Bob Aspromonte (1967; 144 games), Todd Zeile (1993; 153 games), David Wright (2009; 142 games), and Danny Valencia (2011; 147 games).&amp;nbsp; Reynolds accumulated that deficit while playing about 30 fewer games than the players he tied.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As you would expect, those with greater deficits typically played fewer games at the hot corner. Worse seasons were Greg Norton's (1999; -19; 120 games), Jim Presley's (1990; -20; 133 games), Joel Youngblood's (1984; -21; 117 games), Toby Harrah's (1979; -21; 127 games), Fernando Tatis' (1999; -22; 147 games), Edwin Encarnacion's (2007; -22; 137 games), Mark Teahan's (2005; -24; 128 games), Joe Torre's (1971; -25; 161 games), Ty Wigginton's (2003; -28; 155 games), Gary Sheffield's (1993; -31; 133 games), and Ryan Braun's (2007; -35; 112).&amp;nbsp; Braun's season is of special note because his rate of losing a run every 3.2 games is almost twice as unproductive as Reynolds' rate (6.3 games per lost run).&amp;nbsp; Keep in mind though that in general, a bad defensive third baseman is one who loses a run every 15 games.&amp;nbsp; Reynolds certainly was not the historically worst third baseman to log significant time in the field, but he was the worst regular with only Houston's Chris Johnson as his only serious competitor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So...why push him back to third base after such a dreadful, soul crushing year?&amp;nbsp; Well, Reynolds wanted to go back to third.&amp;nbsp; A player's wishes only go so far though, so those wishes had to be in concert with what the organization as a whole wanted to do.&amp;nbsp; Reynolds' 2007 year may be a bit of a career year in terms of awfulness.&amp;nbsp; He has typically been a player who would give up about 10 runs over the course of 150 games.&amp;nbsp; That fits neatly with the one lost run every 15 games level of badness.&amp;nbsp; His ability to take a walk and to force fresh white baseballs into the pitcher's hand for the subsequent batter has typically more than made up for his glove of stone.&amp;nbsp; You could suggest that his 2011 year was not indicative of his true talent level and that he will regress upward to being bad at third instead of being somewhat historically bad.&amp;nbsp; You could also suggest that even though the 27-30 age seasons are a time of offensive peaking that this is about the time where defense begins to deteriorate for many players.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For this post, I decided that it might be good to compare how the roster could fill in with Mark Reynolds at a variety of positions.&amp;nbsp; For simplicity's sake, I used the Bill James projections (which always feel optimistic, but perform just as well as any of the others) available at Fangraphs.&amp;nbsp; I projected WAR for each player by using the OBP/SLG projections, scaling them over 600 plate appearances, and predicting defensive capability.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For Mark Reynolds, I projected him as a 1B, 3B, LF, and DH.&amp;nbsp; You my remember that in the beginning of the off season that I suggested that the Orioles think about sending Reynolds to left.&amp;nbsp; That never happened, but I can still dream.&amp;nbsp; I foresaw him being worth -10 runs at 1B, -15 runs at 3B, and -10 in left field.&amp;nbsp; His WAR would be 2.3 at 1B, 3.2 at 3B, 2.8 in LF, and 2.6 as DH.&amp;nbsp; The 2.8 WAR in LF with a -10 run defense still says to me that he should be trotted out there.&amp;nbsp; He has athleticism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Other options at first base include Chris Davis (2.8 WAR, -5 runs) and Nolan Reimold (1.5 WAR, -10 runs).&amp;nbsp; I projected the Robert Andino / Matt Antonelli / Ryan Flaherty combination as worth 1.2 WAR.&amp;nbsp; Other options at third were the combo at 1.2 WAR and Chris Davis (2.7 WAR, a potentially kind -10 runs).&amp;nbsp; In left field, Reynolds would have company with Nolan Reimold (2.2 WAR, -5 runs) and Endy Chavez (2.1 WAR, +15 runs).&amp;nbsp; Finally, DH could also be manned by Chris Davis (2 WAR) or Nolan Reimold (1.8 WAR).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Mark Reynolds at First Base&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With Reynolds at 1B and earning 2.3 WAR the following is the best setup according to the projections: 3B Chris Davis (2.7 WAR), LF Endy Chavez (2.1 WAR), and DH Nolan Reimold (1.8 WAR).&amp;nbsp; &lt;b&gt;8.9 WAR&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Mark Reynolds at Third Base&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reynolds is slated for 3.2 WAR at third with 1B Chris Davis (2.8 WAR), LF Endy Chavez (2.1 WAR), and DH Nolan Reimold (1.8 WAR).&amp;nbsp; &lt;b&gt;9.9 WAR&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Mark Reynolds in Left Field&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We start with a conservative 2.8 WAR for Reynolds with 1B Chris Davis (2.8 WAR), 3B Combo (1.2 WAR), DH Nolan Reimold (1.8 WAR).&amp;nbsp; &lt;b&gt;8.6 WAR&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Mark Reynolds as Designated Hitter&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;DH Mark Reynolds (2.6 WAR), 1B Nolan Reimold (1.5 WAR), 3B Chris Davis (2.7 WAR), LF Endy Chavez (2.1 WAR).&amp;nbsp; &lt;b&gt;8.9 WAR&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Conclusion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Based on the above projections, the Orioles placing Reynolds at third base gives them 11% more projected production from the current roster.&amp;nbsp; Even a best case scenario where Reynolds would provide league average defense in left field would not be more productive than the current set up with him at third base.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Additionally, this little exercise made me aware of something else: Endy Chavez is likely to be a full timer this year in left field.&amp;nbsp; The only things preventing him from doing so would be Nolan Reimold taking another step forward firming his grip on LF, Jai Miller all of a sudden figuring things out, or an injury.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am shrugging.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-4350102086909962442?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/4350102086909962442/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=4350102086909962442' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/4350102086909962442'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/4350102086909962442'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2012/01/is-reynolds-going-back-to-third-best.html' title='Is Reynolds Going Back to Third the Best Move?'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-7079824001196621486</id><published>2012-01-14T12:25:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-14T12:31:12.818-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shepherd'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 offseason'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Yoshihiro Doi'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='JPL'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Translations'/><title type='text'>Orioles sign Yoshihiro Doi to a Minor League Deal</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/SL-Yoshihiro-Doi.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/SL-Yoshihiro-Doi.jpg" width="266" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;With a hat tip to &lt;a href="http://www.camdenchat.com/2012/1/14/2706921/saturday-bird-droppings"&gt;Camden Chat&lt;/a&gt;, I noticed that the Orioles &lt;a href="http://www.mlbdailydish.com/2012/1/14/2706661/minor-matters-yoshihiro-doi-and-alfredo-amezaga-sign-nevin-ashley-d"&gt;signed&lt;/a&gt; 35 year old Yoshihiro Doi to a minor league deal.&amp;nbsp; You might remember Doi from last year when he worked out for a third of MLB in California and displayed his pitches against a few independent league players.&amp;nbsp; That did not go very well as he topped off at 86 mph and was hit somewhat hard over the course of 30 or 40 pitches.&amp;nbsp; The Orioles were present for those workouts, but decided not to offer a contract.&amp;nbsp; Doi, committed to playing in the United States, proceeded to work solely to meet that goal and did not appear in the JPL in 2011.&amp;nbsp; Instead, he signed a deal with the Lancaster Barnstormers.&amp;nbsp; However, visa issues prevented him from playing with the club.&amp;nbsp; This may have been of a benefit to him as he has suffered from chronic shoulder and wrist issues (as far as I can discern from the information I have).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Doi had spent 2009 and 2010 in the Lions bullpen.&amp;nbsp; In 2009, it appears he was on the disabled list for three months.&amp;nbsp; In 2010, he opened his season with 2/3 IP and 5 ER against Chiba Lotte.&amp;nbsp; He followed that with a 2 ER 1 IP outing against Softbank and then spent three months without throwing a pitch.&amp;nbsp; He came back in July and his first outing was a 3 ER, 2/3 IP effort against Orix.&amp;nbsp; Then he went 22 outings with only three earned runs.&amp;nbsp; Those 22 outings constituted 15 2/3 IP.&amp;nbsp; It appears obvious that Doi was used as a LOOGY (Lefty One Out GuY) by Seibu.&amp;nbsp; This contrasts to how he was used in Yokohama from 2004 - 2008 where he appears to be an oft-injured, but relatively average starting pitcher.&amp;nbsp; Before then, from 1998 - 2003, he was a very effective set up man for Seibu.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Stuff&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Using Pitch FX, I have data from 2009 and 2010 on Doi when he pitched for the Seibu Lions.&amp;nbsp; He is primarily a fastball/slider southpaw.&amp;nbsp; The fastball comes in at 83 mph and has flashed as high as 88 mph.&amp;nbsp; His slider is 77 mph and appears useful against left handed batters.&amp;nbsp; It is really his bread and butter pitch.&amp;nbsp; When forced to throw against righties, he mixes in an apparently inconsistent 76 mph change and low 80s two seamer.&amp;nbsp; The two seamer sometimes shows up as a show me pitch with lefties.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;MLB Translation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Using the same method I used earlier for &lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/second-look-at-yu-darvish.html"&gt;Yu Darvish&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/os-targeting-other-japanese-pitchers.html"&gt;Tsuyoshi Wada, and Wei-Yin Chen&lt;/a&gt;, I predicted Doi performance in the Majors over a 50 IP run:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;i&gt;31 K, 21 BB, 8 HR, 5.21 FIP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;That will not do in the Majors.&amp;nbsp; However, it should be mentioned that Doi's 2008 year was used in the translations and that includes time spent starting for Yokohama being exposed to right handed batters.&amp;nbsp; This inclusion may actually even out as he is going through what you would expect to be age related decrease in talent as well as not competitively pitching last year.&amp;nbsp; His numbers look better when adjusted to AAA:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;i&gt;39 K, 17 BB, 6 HR, 4.25 FIP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;An he appears to be above average in AA:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;i&gt;49 K, 14 BB, 5 HR, 3.34 FIP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Conclusion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yoshihiro Doi is unlikely to provide much value to the MLB squad.&amp;nbsp; He appears more as potential LOOGY depth for the Majors, but more in line to provide closer quality outings in Bowie or handed sensitive outings for Norfolk.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In others words, Doi is filler.&amp;nbsp; I think he is a good kind of filler.&amp;nbsp; Filler is needed in every organization.&amp;nbsp; The primary purpose of it is to enable higher probability prospects to put in at bats and innings to get better.&amp;nbsp; For instance, your young shortstop prospect needs to someone to catch the ball when he throws to first base.&amp;nbsp; In that simple way of looking at things, that is what filler is good for.&amp;nbsp; Once that level is met, there are other considerations for filler.&amp;nbsp; You want a player who wants to be there and will work hard to be there.&amp;nbsp; Doi fits that model.&amp;nbsp; He has worked very hard at coming over to the United States and has supposedly stated that if his American tenure is relegated to the minors then so be it.&amp;nbsp; He will work hard to get to the majors, but will be happy and content competing in the minors.&amp;nbsp; You really do not want any malcontents if their use is primarily as filler.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Additionally, you want a player who fits in with an organizational goal.&amp;nbsp; For Doi, he is part of the international expansion of the Orioles organization.&amp;nbsp; Doi may specifically not be particularly promising, but the trials and tribulations he faces acclimating to the Orioles' system and to the United States in general informs the Orioles how to make the system better to help future signings.&amp;nbsp; Having a personal trainer at the MLB level is fine because there is more money to throw around.&amp;nbsp; However, minor league players do not have that luxury.&amp;nbsp; The Orioles will need to understand how to best help international prospects succeed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps with an eye even further on the horizon, Doi appears to be someone who is dedicated to baseball.&amp;nbsp; He is a 35 year old who has suffered multiple injuries and is trying to prolong his career in the United States.&amp;nbsp; I do not know his interests, but Doi may be someone who could be indoctrinated into the Orioles system and eventually be converted into someone who could help scouting lower level players in Japan, Korea, etc.&amp;nbsp; This is a very peripheral objective, but I do think the more the Orioles embrace all levels of foreign players that they will be more comfortable in effectively utilizing foreign talent.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Simply put, Doi is an important signing because it shows investment in foreign-sourced players.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-7079824001196621486?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/7079824001196621486/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=7079824001196621486' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/7079824001196621486'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/7079824001196621486'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2012/01/orioles-sign-yoshihiro-doi-to-minor.html' title='Orioles sign Yoshihiro Doi to a Minor League Deal'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-841510606791565896</id><published>2012-01-10T05:46:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-10T05:46:01.060-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hall of Fame'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shepherd'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Chris Hoiles'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='catchers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jorge Posada'/><title type='text'>Jorge Posada, Wally Schang, Jason Varitek, and Chris Hoiles</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://how-to-drive.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Jorge-Posada-2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://how-to-drive.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Jorge-Posada-2.jpg" width="261" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;With Jorge Posada retiring, I wondered how his numbers stack up against the all-time greats.&amp;nbsp; The easiest and perhaps most effective way to do this is simply to look at the career WAR of a player.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Every catcher who has been eligible for the Hall of Fame and has a higher WAR than Posada has made it.&amp;nbsp; Those above him fall into three basic tiers.&amp;nbsp; You have the best catchers ever according to WAR (66.3-71.3; Johnny Bench, Carlton Fisk, Gary Carter, and a not yet eligible Ivan Rodriguez).&amp;nbsp; The second tier includes one player (Yogi Berra) at 61.3, but will soon include Mike Piazza at 59.1.&amp;nbsp; The third tier (50.3-54.4) has three players: Bill Dickey, Mickey Cochrane, and Gabby Harnett.&amp;nbsp; All of these players have been or will be awarded with a place in the Hall.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is interesting to me though is that Posada comes next at 44.9 during his 17 years playing and is basically equal to the following players: Wally Schang (43.8 during 19 years), Thurmon Munson (43.4 during 11 years), and Bill Freehan (43.3 during 16 years).&amp;nbsp; All four of these players share one thing in common: none are in the Hall of Fame.&amp;nbsp; The BBWA elected Roy Campanella in with a 36.2 WAR and the Veteran's committee voted in Ernie Lombardi (39.0), Rick Ferrell (22.9), and Ray Schalk (22.6).&amp;nbsp; Lombardi fits on the list right at 16th below Joe Mauer and Darrell Porter.&amp;nbsp; Campanella comes in at 18th right after Jason Kendell. Ferrell is 36th right behind Jason Varitek and Schalk is 41st right behind Ramon Hernandez.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This leaves a question as to whether or not Jorge Posada deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.&amp;nbsp; If he enters, he certainly will be a lower tier HOFer.&amp;nbsp; The players after him appear to be all questionable.&amp;nbsp; Why?&amp;nbsp; The three Posada is basically tied to have not been admitted.&amp;nbsp; There has been a bit of discussion about Munson, but I have never heard anyone make the effort for Wally Schang.&amp;nbsp; For me the sizable difference between the third tier run at 50.3 and Posada at 44.9 appears great enough to make that a line in the sand.&amp;nbsp; The Hall of Fame is full of arbitrary considerations though and I typically do not care one way or another what happens.&amp;nbsp; However, we can certainly say Posada was not one of the greatest catchers ever and I doubt anyone was claiming that anyway.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;---&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As mentioned earlier, Jason Varitek comes in as the 35th ranked catcher with a 23.0 WAR over 15 years.&amp;nbsp; At 34th with 23.4 WAR over 10 years is Oriole Chris Hoiles.&amp;nbsp; I have always thought of Varitek as a very good catcher and Hoiles as a notch below.&amp;nbsp; It appears that I underestimated Hoiles as he put together as valuable numbers as Varitek with 5 less years to play.&amp;nbsp; That is pretty exceptional.&amp;nbsp; Without his career ending injury, his bat (never failing) would have put him in Posada territory.&amp;nbsp; Yes, there are many assumptions here.&amp;nbsp; However, I think if he was able to catcher 20% more games during his established career his number would be around 28 WAR.&amp;nbsp; His bat was good enough to pass by at first base on those awful turn of the century Os teams, so maybe he is able to play another six years with a 2 WAR average.&amp;nbsp; That would put him in at 40 WAR.&amp;nbsp; My point simply is that outside of the injury, Hoiles was actually heading toward performance on a Posada like level and by that I mean Hoiles was a good catcher and Posada was a good catcher with health.&amp;nbsp; Neither were exceptional, but both should be remembered.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-841510606791565896?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/841510606791565896/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=841510606791565896' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/841510606791565896'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/841510606791565896'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2012/01/jorge-posada-wally-schang-jason-varitek.html' title='Jorge Posada, Wally Schang, Jason Varitek, and Chris Hoiles'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-2445936297829612631</id><published>2012-01-09T05:55:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-09T05:55:00.752-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shepherd'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 offseason'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Adam Jones'/><title type='text'>Adam Jones' Potential</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://blownsavewin.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/adam_jones.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://blownsavewin.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/adam_jones.jpg" width="295" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Well, this site is becoming Adam Jones Depot.&amp;nbsp; This past week Dave Cameron wrote an article on Adam Jones titled "&lt;a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/adam-jones-unfinished-product/"&gt;Adam Jones, Unfinished&lt;/a&gt;."&amp;nbsp; The timing is right with such an article because there is a great deal of disagreement out there on Jones' current and future worth.&amp;nbsp; At the Depot, we tend to think of Jones as a promising left fielder while many professional view him as a promising center fielder.&amp;nbsp; I think that distinction is worth about 3-5 MM each season.&amp;nbsp; To me that means the Jair Jurrjens and Martin Prado deal is about a lower top 100 prospect away from being an even deal or two lower top 100 prospects if you think Jones really is a center fielder.&amp;nbsp; However, there has been a great deal of backlash from the Braves followers that Jones is not Prado's equal, which seems to be a bit of hyperbole.&amp;nbsp; Many who follow the Depot appear to be fine with a Jones for Jurrjens deal, which I think is also problematic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cameron's article tried to suss out part of Jones' value: his potential.&amp;nbsp; This was done by making a:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;a list of all player seasons from the last 10 years where the hitter was 25 or younger, swung at 50% or more of the pitches they were thrown, and posted an ISO of at least .150 (to eliminate the middle infielders and catchers who are simply in the sport for their glovework).  This group is essentially a collection of athletic players who got to the show based on their physical skills, but showed a significant lack of polish early in their career.&lt;/blockquote&gt;This produced 24 players who are rather interesting with respect to their future performance.&amp;nbsp; So 14 of the 24 players listed are useful regulars or better.&amp;nbsp; Nine star level players are in the group, including Matt Kemp and Adrian Beltre.&amp;nbsp; Five good players come in the next tier, which includes Hunter Pence.&amp;nbsp; Nick Faleris has actually compared the Pence deal to what the Orioles should expect for Jones if he is dealt to a team who sees him as a center fielder.&amp;nbsp; The tradeoff being Pence's average for Jones' center field.&amp;nbsp; That trade involved Pence and cash to the Phillies for Jonathan Singleton (top 25/50 1B prospect), Jared Cosart (top 100 pitching prospect), Domingo Santana (raw power OF), and Josh Zeid (maybe middle reliever).&amp;nbsp; That deal is similar to what has been mentioned on the Depot as a potential trade framework of a top 25, 50, and 100 prospects for Jones.&amp;nbsp; I would say that Jones currently skirts the role player/good player level.&amp;nbsp; With respect to the Braves package, I would call both Jurrjens and Prado are role players.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I do find Cameron's method a bit crude, but it is a useful exercise.&amp;nbsp; The idea is to look over the entire cloud of possibilities and recognize that the tools Adam Jones flashes are tools that may take time to package together.&amp;nbsp; Torii Hunter didn't learn how to take a walk until he was 27.&amp;nbsp; Dale Murphy doubled his walk rate at age 26.&amp;nbsp; This made me wonder what exactly is a decent projection for Adam Jones over the next three years (his two years of arbitration and one free agent year, which would be a good idea for an extension).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I used selected all players from 1961 to 2008 who by the end of the age 25 year had at least 1500 plate appearances, an on base percentage less than .330, an isolated slugging greater than .140, a batting average greater than .260, and an OPS+ less than 110.&amp;nbsp; This results in the following list of players: Tony Horton, Rich Gedman, Tim Wallach, Dale Murphy, Larry Parrish, Lance Parrish, George Hendrick, Rocco Baldelli, Cliff Floyd, Juan Samuel, Carlos Lee, J.J. Hardy, Stephen Drew, Juan Encarnacion, Zoilo Versalles, Aramis Ramirez, and Juan Uribe.&amp;nbsp; Due to the special circumstances surrounding Horton's and Baldelli's health, I removed them from the list as an outlier.&amp;nbsp; Adam Jones, according to batting runs, would rank 10th out of 17 on this list.&amp;nbsp; Batting runs does not consider position, so it is a good representation of the worth of a bat outside of any context.&amp;nbsp; Jones, of course, would be worth more when his bat is combined with a glove that can cover center field.&amp;nbsp; Using rWAR, Jones is the second highest rated player in this group.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What I am interested in for each player is how his batting average, walk rate, strikeout rate, and isolated power changed from his 25 and under years to his 26-28 years.&amp;nbsp; Those differences may then be able to inform us as to what we could expect from Adam Jones.&amp;nbsp; The follow are how certain metrics change from those two data sets for each individual in those data sets:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;On Base Percentage = 4.7 +/- 10.8 %&lt;br /&gt;Isolated Power = 6.9 +/- 24.2 %&lt;br /&gt;Batting Average = 1.1 +/- 10.9 %&lt;br /&gt;Walk Rate = 26.5 +/- 26.9 %&lt;br /&gt;Strikeout Rate = -0.7 +/- 19.3 %&lt;/blockquote&gt;What is interesting is that as a group, there was basically improvement across the board.&amp;nbsp; This included marginal improvements for on base percentage and isolated power, but also a substantial improvement in walk rate.&amp;nbsp; Adam Jones is likely to improve and is pretty much certain not to walk any less.&amp;nbsp; It also is informative that although walk rate improve drastically, it does not greatly improve on base percentage.&amp;nbsp; This illustrates how poorly this group earns walks during their under 26 years.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What do the future Adam Jones' lines look like?&amp;nbsp; The following are three lines.&amp;nbsp; The first line is if Jones meets the 85th percentile for each metric, the second is if he hits the 50th percentile for each, and the final is if he hits the 15th percentile for each.&amp;nbsp; I am unsure how linked the metrics are, so obviously these lines do not mean Jones has a 15% chance to be great or a 15% chance to be unplayable.&amp;nbsp; The range of performance is likely to be far narrower around the 50th percentile line here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;85th: 308/369/520; 18 WAR; ~80MM&lt;br /&gt;50th: 278/334/451; 11 WAR; ~50MM&lt;br /&gt;15th: 248/300/382; 4.5 WAR; ~21MM&lt;/blockquote&gt;As you can see, Jones profiles as a solid center fielder over the next three years and that has a lot of worth.&amp;nbsp; The key to Jones becoming a superstar involves one of two paths.&amp;nbsp; The Aramis Ramirez path is thought of as the more likely one and that is to experience a massive improvement in making not only contact, but meaningful contact with the baseball.&amp;nbsp; He increased his batting average by 17% with a 50% increase in his ISO, decreased his strikeouts by 36%, and also manage to eek up his meager walk rate by 31%.&amp;nbsp; The second path is the Dale Murphy path, which is to drastically improve your walk rate (47%). Carlos Lee actually managed to up his 71%.&amp;nbsp; To boil it down, Jones needs to see a significant increase in making meaningful contact and either increase contact in general or improve his ability to earn walks.&amp;nbsp; The paths are not common, but certainly are not rare.&amp;nbsp; At worst, Jones is someone over the next three years is a marginal all star. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, if you are the Orioles and thinking of an extension, then you would likely look to offer something in the neighborhood of a three years for 40MM deal or a four years for 55MM.&amp;nbsp; That would cover two years of arbitration and one or two of free agency.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;If you are the Orioles looking to trade Jones...then you are certainly asking for more than Jurrjens and Prado.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;A final note: this of course is a statistical exercise using an informed selection process to predict performance and should be treated as such. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-2445936297829612631?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/2445936297829612631/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=2445936297829612631' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/2445936297829612631'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/2445936297829612631'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2012/01/adam-jones-potential.html' title='Adam Jones&apos; Potential'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-9088338777819418290</id><published>2012-01-03T06:00:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-03T06:00:12.866-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shepherd'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Potential Trade'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Adam Jones'/><title type='text'>Trading Adam Jones: AL East Edition</title><content type='html'>The post will focus on a baseline that was suggested by a scout.&amp;nbsp; So, yes, the opinion of a single professional is how we will value Jones' worth here.&amp;nbsp; What is that worth?&amp;nbsp; It was posited that Adam Jones would be worth a top 25 player, a top 50 player, and a top 100 player.&amp;nbsp; In other words, I would translate this as meaning a A-, B+ and B level player.&amp;nbsp; One final way of looking at it, a 60, a 56, and a 52.&amp;nbsp; That means that some in this business think very highly of Adam Jones.&amp;nbsp; We at the Depot have not thought as highly of Jones in the past, but what matters is who values him the most.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This fourth part will focus on packages from AL East teams.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Boston Red Sox&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Xander Bogaerts, 3B&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Sean Coyle, 2B&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Anthony Renaudo, RHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jacoby Ellsbury.&amp;nbsp; Next.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;New York Yankees&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Dellin Betances, RHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Mason Williams, CF&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Manuel Banuelos, LHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Curtis Granderson.&amp;nbsp; Next.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Tampa Bay Rays&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Alex Torres, LHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Chris Archer, RHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Drew Vettleson, RF&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I find it doubtful that the Rays would deal out one high priced center fielder (B.J. Upton) and plug in another high priced center fielder.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Toronto Blue Jays&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Jake Marisnick, CF&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Aaron Sanchez, RHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Justin Nicolino, LHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Marisnick is one of my favorite prospects.&amp;nbsp; During our 2009 shadow draft, I pestered Nick to select him probably more than deserved.&amp;nbsp; Everything he does is above average.&amp;nbsp; His contact, his power, his speed, his defense, and his arm.&amp;nbsp; No tool stands out as plus to me, but the package is an excellent prospect and one who could roam center for the Orioles in 2014.&amp;nbsp; The Blue Jays tinkered with Sanchez and worked on his control.&amp;nbsp; He has room for growth and works steady in the low 90s with a curve ball that flashes plus.&amp;nbsp; He is several years out, but looks like a 2 slot pitcher.&amp;nbsp; Nicolino is another prospect who is several years out, but he shows a fringe plus fastball and a fringe plus change up.&amp;nbsp; He projects to be a middle rotation pitcher.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Conclusion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;None of these deals are good enough and three of the potential trade partners would likely have no interest in Jones.&amp;nbsp; Toronto has a large number of interesting pieces, but very few of them are show ready.&amp;nbsp; I could see a Travis Snider being added to the above deal to provide some 'now' value.&amp;nbsp; Going through the teams so far, I still think the Braves and maybe the Giants match up the best.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-9088338777819418290?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/9088338777819418290/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=9088338777819418290' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/9088338777819418290'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/9088338777819418290'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2012/01/trading-adam-jones-al-east-edition.html' title='Trading Adam Jones: AL East Edition'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-3013242610435203871</id><published>2011-12-29T06:32:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-29T06:32:01.111-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shepherd'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Potential Trade'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Adam Jones'/><title type='text'>Trading Adam Jones: NL West Edition</title><content type='html'>The post will focus on a baseline that was suggested by a scout.&amp;nbsp; So, yes, the opinion of a single professional is how we will value Jones' worth here.&amp;nbsp; What is that worth?&amp;nbsp; It was posited that Adam Jones would be worth a top 25 player, a top 50 player, and a top 100 player.&amp;nbsp; In other words, I would translate this as meaning a A-, B+ and B level player.&amp;nbsp; One final way of looking at it, a 60, a 56, and a 52.&amp;nbsp; That means that some in this business think very highly of Adam Jones.&amp;nbsp; We at the Depot have not thought as highly of Jones in the past, but what matters is who values him the most.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This third part will focus on packages from NL West teams.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Arizona Diamondbacks&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tyler Skaggs, RHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Matt Davidson, 1B/3B&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;A.J. Pollock, LF&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The is likely just a simple exercise.&amp;nbsp; Chris Young mans center for the Diamondbacks.&amp;nbsp; He is, of course, a good center fielder.&amp;nbsp; Backing him up now is Gerrard Parra, who should be a starting centerfielder on a first division club or a starting left fielder on a second division club.&amp;nbsp; Adam Jones is just not a player of need for them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Colorado Rockies&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Drew Pomeranz, LHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Dexter Fowler, CF&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Kent Mathes, LF&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dexter Fowler is the Rockies' starting CF.&amp;nbsp; His defense is less than impressive and Jones might be an upgrade.&amp;nbsp; Jones' offensive production is also slightly greater than what Fowler is capable of.&amp;nbsp; This package delivers a top notch pitcher, a replacement in center field with some potential upside, and a left fielder who has a slight chance to turn into something special.&amp;nbsp; Pomeranz was acquired from the Indians and has a 2 slot ceiling.&amp;nbsp; He throws in the low 90s with a plus curveball.&amp;nbsp; He spent some time in the Majors last year, but could be served with some time in AAA.&amp;nbsp; However, he may be one of those lefties whose stuff is so good and polished that the Minors are just not enough to challenge him to get better.&amp;nbsp; This is similar to the issue with Matusz as he can take care of AAA hitters, but has troubles at the Major League level.&amp;nbsp; Fowler has three years of control left and profiles as Adam Jones light.&amp;nbsp; He does not have the raw power Jones has, but is able to use his speed on the base paths to work extra base hits.&amp;nbsp; Kent Mathes is a prospect who has had to deal with reworking his swing and staying healthy over the past few years.&amp;nbsp; He comes into AA as a 25 yo.&amp;nbsp; There is a good upside there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Los Angeles Dodgers&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Nate Eovaldi, RHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Allen Webster, RHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Garrett Gould, RHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Matt Kemp.&amp;nbsp; No Benjamins.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;San Diego Padres&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Anthony Rizzo, 1B&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Jedd Gyorko, 3B&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Casey Kelly, RHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They like Cameron Maybin and also have a money issue.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;San Francisco Giants&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Gary Brown, CF&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tommy Joseph, C&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Ehire Adrianza, SS&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Giants need someone like Jones badly.&amp;nbsp; He could vastly improve their outfield.&amp;nbsp; However, Brian Sabean has proven reluctant to deal what remains of his elite prospects, Gary Brown.&amp;nbsp; Brown is a couple years off, but profiles as an average to above average center fielder with a solid offensive profile.&amp;nbsp; The Giants appear to be so enamored with Brown that they may not see the need to get the 'now' value Jones would provide and instead opt for putting Brown in the fast lane to the Majors.&amp;nbsp; It may be that the Giants are more comfortable dealing out Brandon Belt than Gary Brown.&amp;nbsp; Joseph has a plus plus power, but is a bit too aggressive at the plate.&amp;nbsp; The Giants have Posey and Susac in the system behind the plate and Belt at first, so Joseph may not be as highly valued.&amp;nbsp; If Belt was dealt then Francisco Peguera would replace Joseph here.&amp;nbsp; Adrianza would provide a plus defensive option at short stop for the Orioles.&amp;nbsp; His bat is iffy, but he could be useful if Machado has to shift to third.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Conclusion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the division of center fielders.&amp;nbsp; The Diamondbacks, Dodgers, and Padres are set up the middle for a while.&amp;nbsp; The Rockies could improve themselves, but have slightly less production at about half the price in Dexter Fowler.&amp;nbsp; The Giants would be the team to improve the most from dealing for Adam Jones, but the question comes down to whether or not they would be willing to deal Gary Brown or Brandon Belt.&amp;nbsp; However, doing so would largely remove young cheap talent from their 40 man roster.&amp;nbsp; In the past, Sabean has not been afraid to go after the "proven" veteran instead of holding on to the prospect.&amp;nbsp; In light of that, they are probably the only team that might be interested in dealing for Jones in this division and that interest may not be incredibly high as the Giants might believe that Gary Brown could be big league ready soon.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-3013242610435203871?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/3013242610435203871/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=3013242610435203871' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/3013242610435203871'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/3013242610435203871'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/12/trading-adam-jones-nl-west-edition.html' title='Trading Adam Jones: NL West Edition'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-5627614714926321167</id><published>2011-12-28T06:36:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-28T06:36:00.938-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Earl Weaver'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Danny Black'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Expanded Roster 2011'/><title type='text'>Expanded Roster: Was Earl Weaver correct about the 3 Run HR?</title><content type='html'>&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Sometimes, Camden Depot expands the rosters   beyond Nick Faleris and Jon Shepherd.&amp;nbsp; This enables our audience to   speak directly outside of the comment box as well as shine a light on   other Orioles writers.&amp;nbsp; This article is from &lt;b&gt;Danny Black&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Was Earl Weaver correctabout the 3 Run HR?&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;By Danny Black&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Note: This piece was completedbefore the release of Mike Fast’s Baseball Prospectus article“Spinning Yarn” which examines the hit and run.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;Earl Weaver often talked about hispreference for the 3 run home run.  In his book “Weaver onStrategy”, Chapter Two is titled “The Offense, Praised Be theThree-Run Homer!”  Weaver talks about his approach to offense,hitting, and his love of 3R Homers.  The question I wanted to examineis weather or not there is a correlation between 3R Homers and wins. The Orioles have not won more than 69 games over the last 5 years.  Ihave chosen this time period to look at the success (or lack thereof)of the 3R HR.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;The following list shows the totalnumber of 3R HR hit by The Orioles and their ML rank:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;Year&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 3R HR HIT&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ML RK&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; WINS&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;2007&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 21&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 12t&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 69&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;2008&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 17 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 15t&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 68&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;2009&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 19&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 10t&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 64&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;2010&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 9&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 29t&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 66&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;2011&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 21 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 9&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 69&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;On its surface it would appear thatthere is no direct correlation to 3R HR totals and total wins.  TheOrioles went from 29&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; in the Majors in 3R HRs in 2010 to9&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; in the majors in 3R HRs in 2011 but only won 3additional games.  Also, in 2008 The Orioles went from middle of theleague to 2009 when they were in the top 10 in 3R HRs. The result was4 fewer wins with the additional HRs.  So is it time to cancel thebronze statue for Earl?  Not necessarily.  If hitting 3R HRs is good,giving them up must be bad, right Earl? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;Below is the same chart as above butshowing 3R HR allowed:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;Year&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 3R HR ALLOWED&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ML RK&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; WINS&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;2007&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 23&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;   9t&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 69&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;2008&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 25&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;   2 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 68&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;2009&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 26&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;   2T&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 64&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;2010&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 31&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;   1&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 66&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;2011&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 27&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;   2&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 69&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;Finally a category The Orioles are inthe top of the league: 3R HR allowed!  This chart is fascinating. Consistently in the top 10 in HR against, there is a correlationbetween those numbers and Orioles wins.  Over the 5 year period of2007-2011 The Orioles have a net of -47 in 3R HRs while never oncehitting more than they allowed.  For comparison, The Yankees have anet of +29 and The Red Sox have a net of +28 over the same timeframe. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;Is Earl vindicated? Maybe.  Clearlyhitting 3R HRs alone does not guarantee success, but avoiding themavoiding them certainly helps. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-5627614714926321167?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/5627614714926321167/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=5627614714926321167' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/5627614714926321167'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/5627614714926321167'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/12/expanded-roster-was-earl-weaver-correct.html' title='Expanded Roster: Was Earl Weaver correct about the 3 Run HR?'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-3084688910423567035</id><published>2011-12-26T06:00:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-26T06:00:05.399-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shepherd'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 offseason'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Potential Trade'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Adam Jones'/><title type='text'>Trading Adam Jones: NL Central Edition</title><content type='html'>The post will focus on a baseline that was suggested by a scout.&amp;nbsp; So, yes, the opinion of a single professional is how we will value Jones' worth here.&amp;nbsp; What is that worth?&amp;nbsp; It was posited that Adam Jones would be worth a top 25 player, a top 50 player, and a top 100 player.&amp;nbsp; In other words, I would translate this as meaning a A-, B+ and B level player.&amp;nbsp; One final way of looking at it, a 60, a 56, and a 52.&amp;nbsp; That means that some in this business think very highly of Adam Jones.&amp;nbsp; We at the Depot have not thought as highly of Jones in the past, but what matters is who values him the most.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This second part will focus on packages from NL Central teams.&amp;nbsp; The first piece discussed &lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/12/trading-adam-jones-nl-east-edition.html"&gt;NL East&lt;/a&gt; teams.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.clarionledger.com/rwalker/files/2011/09/billy_hamilton_540.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="260" src="http://blogs.clarionledger.com/rwalker/files/2011/09/billy_hamilton_540.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Chicago Cubs&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Brett Jackson, CF&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Trey McNutt, RHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Josh Vitters, 3B&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is more value to this package than at first glance.&amp;nbsp; I view Jackson similarly to Jones a few years back, but slightly underrated likely in how others view that comparison.&amp;nbsp; Jackson could be a first division center fielder or he could be a fringe average left fielder.&amp;nbsp; McNutt looks like a top end relief arm.&amp;nbsp; He has move his fastball into the upper 90s in short stints and a plus slider.&amp;nbsp; If he can improve his change up, then he might be a mid-rotational arm.&amp;nbsp; Josh Vitters falls into what I call the Shea Hillenbrand mold.&amp;nbsp; He has a poor ability to walk, but he does a good job meeting the ball.&amp;nbsp; For me he profiles as a guy who will deliver a few solid average seasons with a couple 300/340/440 seasons ideally at third, but maybe at first or right.&amp;nbsp; Regardless, I do not think Theo Epstein has any interest in trading for Adam Jones.&amp;nbsp; Epstein needs a young group of players to build upon and someone like Jackson is that player.&amp;nbsp; McNutt and Vitters are small pieces that Epstein has been willing in the past to hand out.&amp;nbsp; I'm not sure the best use of Jones is pulling back a potential replacement, a backend bullpen arm, and a potentially average third baseman or a poor first baseman.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Cincinnati Reds&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Billy Hamilton, SS/CF&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Zach Cozart, SS/3B&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Todd Frazier, 3B/LF&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Mat Latos deal removed a great deal of talent from the Reds system that would interest the Orioles.&amp;nbsp; Hamilton would be the prize here.&amp;nbsp; He is an 80 runner with raw hitting and fielding skills.&amp;nbsp; He profiles as a first division shortstop or could be moved to center field.&amp;nbsp; Hamilton needs to work on improving his skills, so that he can take advantage of his tool box.&amp;nbsp; He would likely break into the Majors in 2014.&amp;nbsp; Cozart could be the Orioles starting third basemen in 2012.&amp;nbsp; He has good hands and an accurate arm and his hitting should be sufficient.&amp;nbsp; His true value is likely as a first division utility infielder, but he should make a career as a second division third baseman.&amp;nbsp; Frazier could also be the Orioles starting third baseman in 2012 or he could be in left field or even fill in at second.&amp;nbsp; He has spent some time in the past year as a utility infielder.&amp;nbsp; Frazier has been one of those players whose plus power plays well in the minors, but has questions surrounding it in the Majors.&amp;nbsp; I used to think highly of him, but Nick would chide me commenting on Frazier's arm bar (a similar issue Nick had with Gordan Beckham).&amp;nbsp; Frazier may never hit well enough to be a full time player in the Majors, perhaps being better suited as being a platoon player against lefties.&amp;nbsp; This deal would help fill out the team a bit with more utlity/fringe second division types.&amp;nbsp; It all basically hinges on your evaluation of Billy Hamilton.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Milwaukee Brewers&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wily Peralta, RHP&lt;br /&gt;Scooter Gennett, 2B&lt;br /&gt;Logan Schafer, CF&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is a poor man's version of the Cincinnati Reds deal.&amp;nbsp; Peralta profiles as a top end closer or a potential 2/3 starting pitcher.&amp;nbsp; He throws in the low 90s and primarily works off his fastball.&amp;nbsp; He has average, perhaps less than average, offerings in his change up and slider.&amp;nbsp; He had a successful stint in AAA last year and could open the year in Baltimore if given the chance.&amp;nbsp; Scooter Gennett is a low minors second baseman.&amp;nbsp; He reminds me a little bit of Brian Roberts and like Brian Roberts, Scooter will likely need to prove himself at every rung on the ladder.&amp;nbsp; He has less speed than Roberts and is showing power at an earlier age.&amp;nbsp; Schafer has lost a great deal of time in his minor league career due to injuries.&amp;nbsp; However, he has shown the ability to play center and show above average power.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Pittsburgh Pirates&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Jameson Taillon, RHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Pedro Alvarez, 1B/3B&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Robbie Grossman, LF/RF&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Click.&amp;nbsp; I imagine that will be what Dan Duquette would hear upon mentioning Taillon.&amp;nbsp; The Pirates do not need Adam Jones, so this is an exercise that likely is not realistic.&amp;nbsp; Adrew McCutcheon is an very good center fielder.&amp;nbsp; He will also be a very good left fielder when Starling Marte is promoted.&amp;nbsp; Maybe the Pirates would want Jones to form an excellent defensive outfield of Marte, McCutcheon, and Jones, but that seems like overdoing the three center fielder idea.&amp;nbsp; I do not think they would entertain Marte's inclusion here along with Taillon's.&amp;nbsp; You could probably flip the two and maybe get traction.&amp;nbsp; We are big fans of Jameson Taillon and openly wished for him to fall to the Orioles instead of Manny Machado.&amp;nbsp; Taillon throws an easy plus fastball in the high 90s, a plus table drop curve, and a plus slider.&amp;nbsp; He is a monster.&amp;nbsp; Grossman profiles as an average to above average corner outfielder.&amp;nbsp; He is competent defensively and shows a good understanding of the strike zone.&amp;nbsp; There are some questions as to whether his 2011 performance was more a matter of repeating a level than actually improving to such a remarkable degree.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;St. Louis Cardinals&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Shelby Miller, RHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Oscar Taveras, LF/RF&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Zach Cox, 2B/3B&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is an interesting collection of players.&amp;nbsp; Miller is as sure a bet to be a star as a pitching prospect can be (that will likely be the reason why the Cardinals would never consider having him included in a deal).&amp;nbsp; He commands his fastball in the mid 90s with workable curve and change.&amp;nbsp; Without his inclusion, I do not see how the Orioles could get a good return for Jones.&amp;nbsp; Taveras holds a lot of promise and could be an excellent player as he matures.&amp;nbsp; He makes great contact and has good secondary power.&amp;nbsp; He is likely to play in AA this year as a 20 year old.&amp;nbsp; Cox would provide sure mid-level value.&amp;nbsp; He will likely profile as an average or above average bat at second or third with value coming from plus contact.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Conclusion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pittsburgh has the least need for Adam Jones as they sport two above average centerfielders on their 40 man roster.&amp;nbsp; Chicago is a club that is likely to be short on want as they will very much like to have a player like Brett Jackson who could provide production similar to Adam Jones for a lower cost and a long time frame (if he pans out).&amp;nbsp; The Cardinals simply are not going to give away a prospect who is a short distance from the Majors and has ace potential.&amp;nbsp; Although Jones would be of use, the cost seems too high for the Cardinals.&amp;nbsp; Milwaukee could use Jones to help mitigate the loss of Prince Fielder.&amp;nbsp; However, Nyjer Morgan and Logan Schafer are two internal options that will be cheaper and not impact the club in the long term as losing prospects might.&amp;nbsp; Milaukee is dealing with a short window to bring in a World Series Championship, so a move here might make the most sense to them.&amp;nbsp; For the Orioles, the package is underwhelming.&amp;nbsp; It is, more or less, Peralta and odds and ends.&amp;nbsp; The club needs more value here or a higher ceiling value.&amp;nbsp; A mid-season deal involving both Peralta and Jungman/Bradley would be more suitable, but likely will be asking for too much for only a season and a half of Jones.&amp;nbsp; That leaves Cincinnati who could use Jones, but would they leverage so many of their assets for 2012?&amp;nbsp; Hamilton will not factor into their 2012 or 2013 plans and may in fact never be more than a loose set of impressive tools.&amp;nbsp; Cozart and Frazier would be useful to their 2012 effort, but the Reds may be able to find other ways to fill them in with other players.&amp;nbsp; It is possible they could add a Robert Andino and Drew Stubbs side deal in there. I could see a Cincinnati deal being workable on both sides, but prefer the options discussed in the NL East post.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-3084688910423567035?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/3084688910423567035/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=3084688910423567035' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/3084688910423567035'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/3084688910423567035'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/12/trading-adam-jones-nl-central-edition.html' title='Trading Adam Jones: NL Central Edition'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-8997409372384734742</id><published>2011-12-25T07:27:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-25T07:27:00.587-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Orioles Celebrating the Christmas</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; 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So, yes, the opinion of a single professional is how we will value Jones' worth here.&amp;nbsp; What is that worth?&amp;nbsp; It was posited that Adam Jones would be worth a top 25 player, a top 50 player, and a top 100 player.&amp;nbsp; In other words, I would translate this as meaning a A-, B+ and B level player.&amp;nbsp; One final way of looking at it, a 60, a 56, and a 52.&amp;nbsp; That means that some in this business think very highly of Adam Jones.&amp;nbsp; We at the Depot have not thought as highly of Jones in the past, but what matters is who values him the most.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This first part will focus on packages from NL East teams.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://arodys-vizcaino.com/images/arodys.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://arodys-vizcaino.com/images/arodys.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Atlanta Braves&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Arodys Vizcaino, RHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Randall Delgado, RHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Edward Salcredo, 3B&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This package would involve two pitchers who have the potential of being 2/3 slot pitchers on a first division team and a corner infield/outfield bat with an above average offensive profile.&amp;nbsp; Both Vizcaino and Delgado will be able to help out Baltimore in 2012 to varying degrees.&amp;nbsp; Atlanta used Vizcaino in the pen last year, but has the tools to start.&amp;nbsp; He has a mid 90s fastball and a plus curve.&amp;nbsp; Delgado also spent time last year in the Majors, but in the Braves' starting rotation.&amp;nbsp; His ERA was under three, but his peripherals suggest a great deal of luck was involved.&amp;nbsp; He has some issues with command and depends more on his curve and change up.&amp;nbsp; Salcredo held his own as a 19 yo in the SAL.&amp;nbsp; He shows an above average profile at the plate with power.&amp;nbsp; His defense may push him to right field where his plus arm can still be used.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Florida Marlins&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Christian Yelich, LF&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Matt Dominguez, 3B&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Marcell Ozuna, RF&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Orioles need more position prospects in their system and the Marlins match up the best to provide those pieces.&amp;nbsp; This deal consists of an above average all around left fielder, a defense first third baseman, and a young tools oriented right fielder.&amp;nbsp; Yelich has come out strong since being drafted in 2010.&amp;nbsp; His arm is merely average and he does not throw well, so he may be shifted to first base where his bat would look more average.&amp;nbsp; Dominguez has a gold glove caliber glove, but his bat is at best an average one.&amp;nbsp; He shows poor meaningful contact and does not show much power.&amp;nbsp; Ozuna is a few years away from the Majors.&amp;nbsp; He shows a strong arm in right field and plus power.&amp;nbsp; He has had issues making contact.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;New York Mets&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Zach Wheeler, RHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Matt Harvey, RHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Jenrry Mejia, RHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This deal involves three pitchers at varying stages of development and varying probabilities for reaching a 2 slot ceiling.&amp;nbsp; Wheeler was who we suggested to take in the 2009 draft when the Orioles preferred Matt Hobgood (we still feel good about that one).&amp;nbsp; Wheeler has a plus-plus fastball that sits in the mid-90s and a plus / fringe plus-plus curve.&amp;nbsp; He is a year or two away from MLB.&amp;nbsp; Harvey also has a live arm and sits in the mid 90s and shows a plus slider.&amp;nbsp; His change up is lagging behind Wheelers, which leaves some to think Harvey might be better suited for the bullpen.&amp;nbsp; Mejia also showcases a mid-90s fastball, but uses a change as his second offering.&amp;nbsp; His ability to stick as a starter is how his curve develops.&amp;nbsp; Of the deals available in the NL East, this one has the highest ceiling.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Philadelphia Phillies&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Trevor May, RHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Brody Colvin, RHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Jesse Biddle, LHP &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is one of the weaker packages as all three profile as mid-rotation arms and none of them pitching above A ball last season.&amp;nbsp; May throws a low 90s fastball with good movement and is working on his curve ball and change up.&amp;nbsp; He ate up HiA ball hitters last year with 208 ks in 151 innings.&amp;nbsp; Colvin was another shadow selection we made back in 2009.&amp;nbsp; He struggled with a back injury last year.&amp;nbsp; He has a heavy mid 90s fastball and above average secondary offerings (curve and change).&amp;nbsp; I still think he has an outside shot of being an ace, but that probability has slimmed up quite a bit.&amp;nbsp; I liked Biddle coming out of high school.&amp;nbsp; The long season though saw his fastball velocity dip below 90 mph, which is problematic long term.&amp;nbsp; He needs to get stronger and be able to add velocity.&amp;nbsp; If not, he may be best suited in relief where it might be easier for him to regain velocity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Washington Nationals&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Brad Peacock, RHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;A.J. Cole, RHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Sammy Solis, LHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ideally, Anthony Rendon would be in play here, but he won't be due to him signing last August.&amp;nbsp; It is unrealistic to think the Orioles could let him stick with the Nationals for almost the entire season before he could be spun.&amp;nbsp; Peacock could break camp with Baltimore.&amp;nbsp; His low 90s fastball and curve are plus pitches and he is gaining better use of his change up.&amp;nbsp; He could be a 2 slot pitcher.&amp;nbsp; A.J. Cole has two plus pitches in his mid-90s fastball and his curve.&amp;nbsp; However, he needs to improve his command of the curve as fewer batters will swing at it as he moves up the ladder.&amp;nbsp; Solis throws in the mid 90s and has less control and command of his curve than Cole.&amp;nbsp; All throw pitchers look like mid-rotation arms.&amp;nbsp; A.J. Cole though could be special if he figures out his curve and develops his change up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Conclusion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Nationals, Braves, and Marlins need center fielders.&amp;nbsp; The Phillies have Victorino and the Mets need to hold onto their young talent right now.&amp;nbsp; I am not fond of what the Marlins have to offer.&amp;nbsp; Yelich could provide a good average to above average option in left field, Dominguez could be an average third base man, and Ozuna might flare out in the upper minors.&amp;nbsp; I am of the opinion that a team wins based on star talent and this package does not flash that enough for me.&amp;nbsp; The Nationals package does flash star talent with A.J. Cole and Brad Peacock.&amp;nbsp; A downside here is that the value is all pitching.&amp;nbsp; The inclusion of Salcredo makes me prefer the Braves package here.&amp;nbsp; An infield of Jonathan Schoop, Manny Machado, and Edward Salcredo could be an excellent infield core.&amp;nbsp; If Salcredo's defense falters then he could spell Markakis.&amp;nbsp; Vizcaino and Delgado are excellent pitching prospects that are essentially MLB ready.&amp;nbsp; I doubt the Braves would do it, but it is what I would target.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-3193533414390967130?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/3193533414390967130/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=3193533414390967130' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/3193533414390967130'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/3193533414390967130'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/12/trading-adam-jones-nl-east-edition.html' title='Trading Adam Jones: NL East Edition'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-4415416898222936460</id><published>2011-12-20T19:41:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-20T19:41:50.178-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Steve Walters'/><title type='text'>Some Writings of the Os New Numbers Guy</title><content type='html'>Here are a few of Steve Walters columns at the Wages of Wins blog.&amp;nbsp; Enjoy. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;April 2007&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://wagesofwins.com/2007/04/21/it-aint-necessarily-so"&gt;It Ain't Necessarily So&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;May 2007&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://wagesofwins.com/2007/05/10/baseball%E2%80%99s-arms-race-and-the-prisoner%E2%80%99s-dilemma/"&gt;Baseball's Arm Race and the Prisoner's Dilemma&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;June 2007&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://wagesofwins.com/2007/06/27/optimistic-to-a-fault/"&gt;Optimistic to a Fault&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://wagesofwins.com/2007/06/04/rocket-science-clemens-and-%E2%80%98roids/"&gt;Rocket Science&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;December 2007&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://wagesofwins.com/2007/12/16/stop-the-presses-two-economists-agree/"&gt;Stop the Presses &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;August 2009&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://wagesofwins.com/2009/08/02/why-smart-gms-do-stupid-things/"&gt;Why Smart GMs Do Stupid Things&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-4415416898222936460?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/4415416898222936460/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=4415416898222936460' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/4415416898222936460'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/4415416898222936460'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/12/some-writings-of-os-new-numbers-guy.html' title='Some Writings of the Os New Numbers Guy'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-3736793788702210728</id><published>2011-12-19T09:29:00.007-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-19T11:31:50.852-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='orioles scouting'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faleris'/><title type='text'>O's Scouting: Shake-up and fallout, follow-up</title><content type='html'>On Friday &lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/12/os-scouting-shake-up-and-fall-out.html"&gt;we discussed&lt;/a&gt; news of Baltimore gutting its pro scouting department. As not much information was available at the time the story broke, we wanted to make sure we followed-up Friday's discussion in order 1) to fairly portray the moves that were made, and 2) to provide a useful commentary on the impact of these moves. That is what we will do this morning. If you have not read Friday's piece, it might make sense to do so before diving into this piece. It contains a couple of longer threads regarding the shift from pro to amateur scouting that are not rehashed here, and it also touches on a couple of assumptions (both here at the Depot and in the media at large) that have proven incorrect with further digging.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;What has changed?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Entering 2011, Baltimore's roster of non-amateur scouts included one advance scout (scouting future Orioles opponents), two Major League scouts (primarily responsible for evaluation of talent on other Major League teams), and seven pro scouts (primarily responsible for evaluation of talent in the Minor Leagues). These evaluators were not limited to their primary scouting responsibilities, and might be assigned to assist in other areas as needed. Because the primary amateur scouting season runs February through May, leading up to the draft (spring training through the first third of the season on the pro side), it is generally uncommon for pro scouts to regularly participate on the amateur side.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Upon Dan Duquette's taking over as President of Baseball Operations this November, filling the office vacated by Andy MacPhail, the Orioles began an overhaul of the pro scouting department. Late November, the Director of pro scouting (Lee MacPhail IV) was demoted to pro scout, with the position of "Director" rumored to be removed altogether. At the end of last week, word came down that the Orioles were reassigning five pro scouts and their MLB advance scout to the amateur side. The specifics are as follows:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Advance scout, Jim Thrift (new assignment, area scout in western Fla.)&lt;br /&gt;Pro scout, Lee MacPhail IV (new assignment, area scout in Mich./Ohio/W.V.)&lt;br /&gt;Pro scout, Jim Howard (new assignment, area scout in N.Y./N.J./Penn.)&lt;br /&gt;Pro scout, Ted Lekas (new assignment, area scout in New England)&lt;br /&gt;Pro scout, James Keller (new assignment, rover/area scout in California)&lt;br /&gt;Pro scout, Todd Frohwirth (new assignment, area scout in Wisc./Minn./N.D./S.D.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By my count, this leaves the remaining pro scouting department as follows:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;MLB scout, Dave Engle&lt;br /&gt;MLB scout, Bruce Kison&lt;br /&gt;Pro scout, Chris Bourjos (based out of Arizona)&lt;br /&gt;Pro scout, Gary Roenicke (based out of California)&lt;br /&gt;Pro scout, Fred Uhlman, St. (based out of Baltimore)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Brady Anderson will apparently be joining the organization in some official capacity, though it is unclear what his role will be.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Argument for restructuring&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The removal of a full-time advance scout is probably fine. Statistical analysis is highly effective at the Major League level, due to the relative stability in year-to-year output and overall predictability of player performance. That is not to say that the advanced metrics used by front offices (versions of which can be found at sites like BaseballProspectus.com, BillJamesOnline.com, TangoTiger.com, and Fangraphs.com) are infallible. But for the most part you can get a good idea of players' relative strengths and weaknesses in various situations by giving the right numbers to the right people and letting them go to work. Additionally, HD video is publicly available for every inning of every game, so to the extent you need to see game tape, it's there. It isn't perfect, but if you want to rely on stats and video at the Major League level when it comes to advance scouting, you can probably get by.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The number of MLB scouts has not changed, it is around the typical number of evaluators that you will see an organization devote primarily to the MLB-level. Many organizations do not have an official "advance scout" position, instead opting to divide the duties of an advance scout between the MLB scouts on payroll and perhaps a pro scout or two, depending on timing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Argument against restructuring&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The biggest argument against the restructuring is that Baltimore is gutting the group of scouts listed as "pro scouts", which are primarily responsible for Minor League evaluation. Stats and video are much less useful tools when evaluating players from other organizations at the Minor League level, and become increasingly less useful the further away you get from the Majors. Totaling three pro scouts at this point, the Orioles would be significant outgunned in this department should they opt to proceed without filling the void with new hires. Toronto and New York (A), for example, each boasted double-digit pro scouting positions in 2011. Tampa had fewer listed pro scouts in 2011, but also mix-in "special assignment" scouts and one or two dual role international/pro scouts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The loss of manpower means fewer eyes on Minor Leaguers and less information for the front office when trade talks take place. As free agent bargains become fewer and fewer, and with modifications to the collective bargaining agreement between MLB and the MLBPA removing teams' ability to spend without ramification on amateur talent, the trade market is quickly becoming one of the most important avenues for talent acquisition. Accordingly, Baltimore needs to be a leading organization in talent evaluation to maximize their efforts on the trade front.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the largest questions currently facing the Orioles is whether or not they will extend Adam Jones. If they elect, instead, to trade him, it will likely be for a package of players. Making sure Baltimore gets the most out of that package is of the utmost importance. Will the three remaining pro scouts have enough opportunity to cover five or six levels of Minor League baseball such that the Orioles will be able to not only accurately gauge the value of a proposed package of players, but to also compare that package against other possible packages in order to determine which of two or three deals is preferable? Perhaps more important, will Baltimore be able to spot that struggling prospect that an organization might undervalue and add as a piece to close a deal?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In a world where knowledge is power, it makes little sense to limit your avenues of information gathering. No stat line/video combination will tell you what you need to know about an Advanced-A arm when trying to project whether he will be able to improve his command, or whether he will work hard enough on his change-up to make it the third Major League average-or-better offering he needs to stick in a rotation long term. You need eyes on the field before the game and after the game. You need to be able to talk up the people at the field and around the team. A player's make-up is an important factor in determining whether he will be able to weather the challenges of rising through the Minors and transitioning to playing the game at the highest level in the world. While not tangible, make-up is real, it is important, and it needs to be evaluated. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The importance of timing&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This issue was touched on in last week's post, but should be reiterated. There is negligible positive value for Baltimore in adding these five evaluators to the amateur side, as they are starting out a good deal behind their competitors when it comes to identifying the draft-eligible follows and getting multiple looks at those talents. Additionally, these evaluators will need to make inroads in creating contacts with the high school, JuCo, 4-year college, travel team and showcase coaches and personnel in order to stay on top of pop-up talents (e.g. arms that see a big bump in velocity during the spring). It is simply a large ask and places these evaluators in a difficult spot when trying to make judgments on volatile assets such as amateur players, and doing so with limited views and potentially limited access to info from third party coaches and evaluators.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is some danger that shuffling scouts around outside of the general "hiring/firing/assignment" period for scouts -- generally the fall -- will make outside evaluators wary of joining the Orioles organization for fear that a similar restructuring could take place in the future. Baltimore can explain some of this away by pointing to the late hiring of Duquette, and the accordingly late ripple of moves in restructuring the scouting department. One evaluator from another organization commented, "Definitely weird [timing to shuffle things up]; somewhat understandable with [the late GM hiring]."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unfortunately, while this reasoning makes sense it still reflects poorly on the organization as a whole. The fact that Andy MacPhail was unlikely to stay after October was the worst kept secret in Baltimore, starting around early-July. The long hiring process for MacPhail's replacement, highlighted by a handful of very public rejections from would-be candidates, did not sit well with those watching from afar in other organizations, and reinforced a stereotype that the Orioles, as an organization, lack focus and professionalism. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The fact that issues at the top have rippled down to effectuate reassignment of scouts well after they could reasonably be expected to find work elsewhere is not the end of the world, but it is another reminder to the industry that Baltimore continues to struggle putting together any sort of coherent plan for the future. Now, with Duquette apparently set to turnover larger chunks of the organization over the next ten months, some of the talented up-and-comers throughout the ranks of Major League baseball may be more inclined to wait out the upheaval to see what the organization looks like before signing-on as part of the rebuild.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Conclusion&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ultimately, the restructuring is not a huge deal, provided that Baltimore brings in additional evaluators at the pro ranks to help more thoroughly cover the Minors. Assuming that is the case, the Orioles have still weakened their pro scouting for at least four or five months (some of the area scouts can assist in pro scouting post-draft, based on several other variables which we can discuss in another post if the reader interest in there) and will be getting additional help at the amateur level, though the evaluators will be operating at a handicap.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One has to question the wisdom behind removing these evaluators from positions in which they were comfortable, and thrusting them into a world in which they will (at least initially) be out of their depth. The addition of amateur scouts is a great strategy, and one already employed by the Blue Jays, Rays, Red Sox and Yankees, each of whom outmanned Baltimore in this department. Baltimore also handled the assignment well, placing each of Frohworth, MacPhail, Howard, Lekas and Keller in areas tied to their home, cutting down some on travel. As luck would have it, the addition of scouting eyes in California, Florida and Ohio will be useful in at least cross-checking some of the top talents in this year's draft, with each state boasting multiple early-round talents (and potentially multiple first round talents in each state).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While the ultimate goal of more amateur scouts and less in-person focus on MLB advance scouting is potentially a solid direction for the organization, doing so at the expense of Minor League scouting is dangerous. Further, while their pay may remain the same (word is that it will), it's tough to not view this as a demotion when you are moving from covering pro ball to covering high school and college ball -- the general "starting point" for many evaluators in the game and a job that usually requires a great deal more travel and inconvenience. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Baltimore could have lessened the immediate impact on Minor League scouting, and potentially avoided any hard feelings on the part of the evaluators, had they opted to rename the position as "special assignment" scout, or even allow the evaluators to keep their titles and simply asked them to chip in on the amateur side for the February to June time period. It's a small point, but one that other evaluators in other organizations have noticed. No one expects that these former pro scouts are going to jump in and be able to operate as seasoned area scouts right off the bat, so their utility is limited for 2012 already. By allowing them to cover their region on the pro side, while dipping over to cross-check the amateurs in their region, all parties would have gotten what they wanted out of the situation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, and delving into the world of conjecture, it is slightly troubling to hear that the position of Director of Pro Scouting might not be filled -- particularly if the organization is not planning on hiring more pro scouts and, instead, decides to pull eyes from the amateur side as needed. For organizations that opt to assign their area scouts to pro coverage periodically throughout the year, the task of coming up with those assignments is a difficult one. The organization must consider the responsibilities of the area scout in covering their draft-and-follows (players selected and then watched over the summer before deciding upon a signing bonus offer), covering amateur showcases, tournaments and summer leagues in their area, and the distribution of talent across Minor League levels and the teams at those levels. Almost every Major League team has a Director of Pro Scouting, and there is a reason for it -- there is simply a lot to keep track of and a strong need for the creation and implementation of an organization-wide plan.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The situation is not as dire as it appeared on Friday, but the decision to unnecessarily forfeit short-term gains in pro scouting for minimum benefits of handicapped additional eyes on the amateur side is a head-scratcher. If those pro vacancies are not filled in the coming months, the whole issue can be summed up with a very simple question: For an organization struggling to keep pace with the four other organizations in the American League East, what is the likelihood that the key to bridging that gap is putting fewer assets into the evaluation and acquisition of talent at any level?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-3736793788702210728?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/3736793788702210728/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=3736793788702210728' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/3736793788702210728'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/3736793788702210728'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/12/o_19.html' title='O&apos;s Scouting: Shake-up and fallout, follow-up'/><author><name>Nick J Faleris</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12413352719310759010</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-8704765170746822608</id><published>2011-12-16T11:49:00.008-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-16T14:04:55.967-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='orioles scouting'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faleris'/><title type='text'>O's Scouting: Shake-up and fall-out</title><content type='html'>&lt;em&gt;UPDATE -- 1:40pm -- I received word that the scouts being shifted to the amateur side were responsible for Minor League coverage as well as MLB advance work. If this is true than the impact is even worse for Baltimore. While statistical analysis can work wonders on the advance level, and more broadly when evaluating Major League players with track records, it is limited in usefulness at the Minor League level. Certain statistical work can aid in evaluating and projecting developing Minor Leaguers, but eyes-on scouting is still an intregal aspect of the process. Gutting that side of your scouting department would be a highly questionable move. Hopefully, the initial reports are true and the evaluators removed were limited to pro scouts at the MLB level, only.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;UPDATE -- 2:05 -- More word that Minor League scouting is tied into the pro scout gutting. We will have a reaction to that news in a second piece later this evening. The main takeaways are 1) Baltimore is seriously hindering its ability to maximize value in trades, and 2) scouts from other organization, if ever asked to come over to Baltimore, will note the timing of these moves and the manner in which they were handled.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The shake-up&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://twitter.com/#!/Jen_Royle"&gt;Jen Royle&lt;/a&gt; passed along word of unrest in the Orioles' scouting department this morning via Twitter:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Consensus amongst sources is that #Orioles scouts are not happy with new assignments. Another source: "They thought it was a joke." -@Jen_Royle&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Fox Sport's Ken Rosenthal shed further light on the situation with a &lt;a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/baltimore-orioles-shake-up-scouting-department-121611"&gt;morning snippet&lt;/a&gt; explaining the nature of the "new assignments":&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;[Dan] Duquette, the team’s new general manager, essentially dissolved the Orioles’ professional scouting department Thursday, reassigning six pro scouts to the amateur side.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dave Engle and Bruce Kison will remain major-league scouts, and the Orioles will make greater use of video and statistical analysis in scouting the majors, Duquette said.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rosenthal went on to provide a quote from Duquette, explaining the shift: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s a more efficient way to structure the Orioles, better for identifying talent and utilizing people’s strengths to help the team.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So what is the fallout, here? Is this something that should excite Orioles fans? Well, there is some good and some bad...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The fallout: Good&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For an organization who has put limited resources into staffing its scouting department, it's odd to think that six of the professional scout positions were being utilized for advance scouting. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As Duquette touches on in his comments, technology has limited the utility of advance scouts. Statistical analysis has matured to the point that batter and pitcher data is available and accessible such that managers can be armed with an iPad full of splits to access for nearly every in-game situation you can think of. Further, anyone with $119 and a computer, PlayStation 3, tablet or smart phone can watch every inning of MLB baseball, including archived games, in HD quality. In short, stats can tell you most of what you need to know about MLB players you will be facing. For everything else, there's HD video. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That's not to say that there is no need for advance scouting. But for an organization who has utilized a limited fund for scouting endeavors, there is little need for an abundance of advance scouts. The thinning of these ranks is probably something that should have occurred much sooner, which segues us to "the bad".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The fallout: Bad&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This move, and particularly the timing, should have Orioles fans concerned in that it removes scouts from an area in which they are familiar and comfortable and drops them into an area from which they are years removed and in which they will be operating at a severe disadvantage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Talent is talent, and there is little reason to believe that a pro scout is not capable of evaluating amateur talent. That is, the former advance scouts turned amateur scouts, I'm sure, have the evaluative tools to do the job of an amateur scout. However, the process itself is different for an amateur scout than it is for a pro scout.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Amateur scouts are tasked with two goals: 1) identify the current talent of an amateur talent (someone who has yet to sign with a MLB organization), and 2) accurately project the type of player that this amateur will be at the Major League level. To achieve these goals, amateur scouts must weigh numerous factors, including physical aspects of the player, athleticism, baseball tools, baseball skills, coachability, dedication to the game, as well as the player's interest in and willingness to make baseball the sole focus of his life. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pro scouts looking at Minor League players are in a similar situation to amateur scouts in that they are appraising a player now, projecting him, and determining whether his organization should try and acquire him, though much of the static in evaluation has been removed with the Minor League players more refined and closer to the Majors than are the amateur kids. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pro scouts doing advance work are concerned with one thing: how does my team beat this player when we face him. They will be consulted in trade and free agent situations, and may be assigned to watch a player considered to be a trade target, but much of the projection element has been removed by that time, as the player generally "is what he is".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The switch from pro to amateur scouting will require the O's evaluators to rewire their thinking some, and it requires them to do this while operating at a competitive disadvantage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is late in the game for amateur scouts. Most, if not all, organizations have completed compilation of their follow lists for each region, noting (and in some form ranking) the various talents in each area that need to be seen during the spring. Area scouts, since last June, have spent time at high school travel team tournaments, showcases, workouts, college summer league games, and college fall workouts, enjoying multiple looks at the players eligible for the June Draft. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Multiple looks are particularly important at the amateur level, as players at this stage of development can log erratic performances from day-to-day. The more looks you can get of a kid, the more confident you can be in your appraisal. This group of converted amateur scouts will likely be getting their first looks at players in their region, starting this January and February, while their competition is checking-in for a fourth, fifth or sixth look. Further, while the converted amateur scouts are potentially hustling to get eyes on the top talents in the area, their competition, already comfortable in their appraisal of those talents, will be able to focus elsewhere. For example, a scout from a competing organization might skip his fourth look at an arm in order to check in on the projectable righty that was only 86-89 mph in October, but might be sitting 88-91 mph now six months later.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The converted scouts will also need to familiarize themselves with a landscape that is likely now foreign to them. While many may have started as amateur evaluators, these scouts will need to revist their process and slide back into the day-to-day frame of mind of an amateur evaluator. Which factors are most important to projecting out this particular player's skillset? Who does he remind me of and was that player successful? What's the best way to go about scheduling my spring to make sure I can hit all the players I need to see? Can I catch the power arm at XYZ University during a mid-week game, or does Coach ABC prefer to limit his workload to relief on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That final question touches on another issue -- these converted scouts don't have the network that established area scouts can tap into. As important as evaluation itself is, it's sometimes even more important to have that JuCo coach that texts you about the arm his team faced today, or the high school coach that sends you the scheduled start dates for a pitcher in which you are interested. These are relationships that can take some time to grow, and the converted scouts will likely be operating without them for now.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, no matter how Baltimore spins it, it is a demotion for these guys. Moving from watching elite-level MLB baseball each night and having a place at the table in discussing strategy at the MLB team level is a better gig than traveling all over your region, watching mostly bad baseball and sending a player report up the ladder. Amateur scouting is a wonderful experience, and a personal passion, but taking someone with the more regimented, and more comfortable, job of pro scouting and thrusting them into the world of lots of travel, lots of uncertainty and little prestige is quite simply a big ask.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;End game&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Most fans might say, "Suck it up and deal with it -- at least you have a job in baseball." To a certain extent, that's true. The utility of advance scouts has changed over the last five years, and it is understandable that the organization might want to reshuffle their scouting assets to adjust to these changes. But one has to wonder if the timing of this move makes sense. Regardless of how talented these evaluators are, are you going to be getting the most you can out of them by dropping them into a job in which they aren't mentally or emotionally invested? By making the move now, you've essentially taken away from them the opportunity to consider work elsewhere, as Major League teams tend to fill their scouting positions in October and November. Is a discontented evaluator the guy you want chiming-in on your draft targets?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The big picture says the move indicates that the Baltimore front office is attempting to be proactive and adjusting to a more efficient model for its scouting department. A closer look reveals that Baltimore might be alienating their evaluators and setting them up for failure -- at least in 2012 -- essentially pushing them out the door once they have the opportunity next fall. It seems like a gradual shift, involving periodic assignments to cross-check on the amateur side and at the Minor League level, could have accomplished the same thing by this time next year, without alienating the evaluators involved in the process. In short, there is relatively little gained in Baltimore making this move right now and in this manner, and it could likely cause them to lose these evaluators to other orgs. Time will tell if such a loss is impactful.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-8704765170746822608?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/8704765170746822608/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=8704765170746822608' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/8704765170746822608'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/8704765170746822608'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/12/os-scouting-shake-up-and-fall-out.html' title='O&apos;s Scouting: Shake-up and fall-out'/><author><name>Nick J Faleris</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12413352719310759010</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-6674824419214774082</id><published>2011-12-16T06:00:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-16T06:00:03.817-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shepherd'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 offseason'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 Free Agency'/><title type='text'>Non-tendered Relievers on the Market</title><content type='html'>&lt;table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: right; margin-left: 1em; text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://answers.bettor.com/images/Articles/thumbs/extralarge/Joe-Saunders-shines-as-Arizona-Diamondbacks-overpower-San-Diego-Padres-5-1-MLB-Update-98477.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="230" src="http://answers.bettor.com/images/Articles/thumbs/extralarge/Joe-Saunders-shines-as-Arizona-Diamondbacks-overpower-San-Diego-Padres-5-1-MLB-Update-98477.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Saunders could be an excellent reliever.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;This post will focus on potential finds for relievers who were non-tendered this week.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Doug Slaten, LHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;32 yo &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Washington Nationals&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Slaten only managed 16 appearances this past season due to issues with ulnar neuritis.&amp;nbsp; When healthy, he is an effective LOOGY (lefty one-out guy).&amp;nbsp; Over his career, lefties have OPS'd .666 with righties smacking him at .864.&amp;nbsp; He uses a 90 mph two seamer and an effective slider.&amp;nbsp; Against righties he uses a changeup as a show me pitch.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Dan Cortes, RHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;25 yo&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Seattle Mariners&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cortes was a top 100 prospect in 2008 and 2009 for Baseball America.&amp;nbsp; He uses a mid to high 90s fastball, a slider, and a curve ball.&amp;nbsp; The curve is impressive, but has shows little control of it.&amp;nbsp; It is a pitch that seems to be left alone by batters who instead sit on fastballs.&amp;nbsp; It is uncertain what he will bring to the table in the future.&amp;nbsp; He had an unspecified off field injury that resulted in surgery on his shoulder and his bicep.&amp;nbsp; He also apparently suffered a fractured hand as well.&amp;nbsp; If he does heal and if he gains just a little bit more command and control then he could be an excellent reliever.&amp;nbsp; He could be work a MiL deal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Jose Mijares, LHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;27 yo&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Minnesota Twins&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From 2008 to 2010, Mijares was a dependable arm out of the Twins bullpen.&amp;nbsp; He was roughly a 3 ERA pitcher with 8 k/9 and 3 b/9.&amp;nbsp; In 2011, injuries finally took their toll on Mijares and he let the opposition get on base.&amp;nbsp; His fastball dropped from 91.3 to 89.8 and he lost the ability to effectively use his slider.&amp;nbsp; If he proves himself healthy, he could be a solid option.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Hong-Chih Kuo, LHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;30 yo&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Los Angeles Dodgers&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From 2008-2010, Kuo was one of the best relievers in the National League.&amp;nbsp; A lefty who was effective against both right handed and left handed batters.&amp;nbsp; He often suffered minor injuries, but his 2011 season was marred by them.&amp;nbsp; Of most concern was his tweaked elbow and the resulting loss of velocity in his fastball (from 94.2 to 92.5).&amp;nbsp; If a team thinks he can be healthy, then he deserves a Major League deal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Aaron Laffey, LHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;27 yo&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Kansas City Royals&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Laffey is a Cumberland, MD native.&amp;nbsp; Dan Duquette speaks about investing locally, but Laffey may not be exactly what he has in mind.&amp;nbsp; He is a groundball pitcher who nibbles on the edge.&amp;nbsp; He walks 3.6 b/9 and manages 4.5 k/9.&amp;nbsp; Those are difficult percentages to live by.&amp;nbsp; He could be useful in the pen or as AAA starting depth.&amp;nbsp; He could be the Orioles new Mark Hendrickson.&amp;nbsp; He could wind up with a Major League deal for someone in dire need of rotational depth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Clay Hensley, RHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;32 yo&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Miami Marlins&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hensley surprised everyone in 2010 as he helped anchor the Marlin bullpen.&amp;nbsp; He came into the season with a refined curve and more effective usage of his changeup.&amp;nbsp; In 2011, his curve left him and he resorted to throwing his slider.&amp;nbsp; It did not work.&amp;nbsp; These issues probably result from him cracking his ribs in May and then suffering a shoulder injury in June.&amp;nbsp; If you ignore his horrific August, he actually had a pretty good year.&amp;nbsp; He could be a good pickup.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Micah Owings, RHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;29 yo&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Arizona Diamondbacks&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Owings eats up right handed batters.&amp;nbsp; They manage a .647 OPS while a .912 OPS is what lefties enjoy.&amp;nbsp; If protected, he can be a useful member of a bullpen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Joe Saunders, LHP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;31 yo&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Arizona Diamondbacks&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Arizona did not offer Saunders a contract after paying him 5.5 MM last year.&amp;nbsp; It would be unlikely to convince him to come out of the pen, but he destroys lefties.&amp;nbsp; Last year he had a .581/.810 left/right split.&amp;nbsp; A few years after winning 17 and 16 games as well as putting up a 3.69 ERA.&amp;nbsp; A possibility would be to throw a 5 MM deal under the expectation that he would shift to being a relief pitcher.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-6674824419214774082?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/6674824419214774082/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=6674824419214774082' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/6674824419214774082'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/6674824419214774082'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/12/non-tendered-relievers-on-market.html' title='Non-tendered Relievers on the Market'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-8236017761923597917</id><published>2011-12-15T06:00:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T06:00:15.750-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Eveland'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pitch f/x'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shepherd'/><title type='text'>Analyzing Dana Eveland's Fastball</title><content type='html'>After some time away from the confusion and hysteria that the Winter Meeting can impart, I thought it might be good to go back and focus on the Orioles' acquisition of Dana Eveland.&amp;nbsp; There was some disappointment when the trade went down as the Orioles acquired a player who has an uneven career that has been entirely unimpressive at the Major League level for two minor league players who some refer to as prospects.&amp;nbsp; The merits of Jarret Martin's prospect-dom can be somewhat argued.&amp;nbsp; He is likely at best a middle relief arm if he ever makes it to the majors.&amp;nbsp; Tyler Henson's prospect status unfortunately left him long ago.&amp;nbsp; It appears to be a not much for not much kind of deal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dan Duquette &lt;a href="http://www.masnsports.com/school_of_roch/2011/12/duquette-and-eveland-discuss-the-trade.html"&gt;spoke&lt;/a&gt; highly of Dana Eveland after the deal.&amp;nbsp; Duquette mentioned that Albuquerque (where Eveland pitched 150 innings last year) and that is true.&amp;nbsp; Albuquerque is the least friendly ball park for pitchers in all of the minors.&amp;nbsp; It increases run production by about 18%.&amp;nbsp; Eveland's ERA was 5.40 at home and 3.33 on the road.&amp;nbsp; However, as well as he pitched in AAA it must be said that he was a 28yo in AAA.&amp;nbsp; Duquette also mentioned that Eveland had some bone chips cleaned out from his elbow in 2010 and that he likes Eveland's fastball.&amp;nbsp; In this post, I wanted to dive into the Pitch f/x data a little bit and look at Eveland's fastball and how it has looked over the years.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Velocity and Movement&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With his elbow cleaned up, one might expect that his fastball would look a little different.&amp;nbsp; The graph below shows some of the highlights.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PFj1QolhYr4/TuVSDEEWudI/AAAAAAAAAnw/oCmnW--CRa0/s1600/eveland+fastball+v+and+m.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="300" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PFj1QolhYr4/TuVSDEEWudI/AAAAAAAAAnw/oCmnW--CRa0/s400/eveland+fastball+v+and+m.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You can see that in the data available, fastball velocity has decreased over the last three years.&amp;nbsp; Movement has also changed where his fastball has more run to it than it used to have by about half an inch.&amp;nbsp; Vertical movement actually is about half an inch more than it used to be.&amp;nbsp; To some extent, this is a function of decreasing speed.&amp;nbsp; It may be with this greater horizontal movement along with slightly more drop results in a fastball that is more difficult to square up on, inducing poor contact.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Fastball Events&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To see how the above change in movement has affected batted balls, I have compiled fastball events below.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-a9oLAX89Ui8/TuVSRs9IXdI/AAAAAAAAAn4/pOkvdE7Vaxs/s1600/eveland+event.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="300" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-a9oLAX89Ui8/TuVSRs9IXdI/AAAAAAAAAn4/pOkvdE7Vaxs/s400/eveland+event.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The first thing to notice is that Eveland was throwing more strikes last year (remember that this is a pretty small sample size).&amp;nbsp; The increase in strike throwing correlates with an equal increase in the batter swinging at his pitches, so it seems like the batters are responding to an increase in strikes.&amp;nbsp; Even though they swing more and the swing and miss rate has not increased, balls put into play (fair territory) has not increased.&amp;nbsp; What has increased has been the number of balls hit into foul territory.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Is inducing foul balls a skill?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would think it would be, but it is not something that seems to have been specifically assessed.&amp;nbsp; Mike Fast published &lt;a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=15532"&gt;two&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=15562"&gt;pieces&lt;/a&gt; on how pitchers can affect batted balls.&amp;nbsp; However, it appears that the main variable he focused on (horizontal velocity of a ball coming off a bat) is related to strikeout rate.&amp;nbsp; Eveland is not a high strikeout pitcher, but it may be that groundball pitchers may affect contact differently than your average pitcher.&amp;nbsp; It would follow reason that a pitcher who is able to induce a great deal of foul balls is messing with the batters' timing a great deal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Conclusion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;None of this is definitive.&amp;nbsp; The data is on the thin side, but it appears to depend on a slight difference in how Eveland's fastball moves and whether or not a pitcher can hone a skill that significantly increases foul ball rates.&amp;nbsp; I think it is prudent to be more conservative about this and attribute last year's success more to luck than skill.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-8236017761923597917?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/8236017761923597917/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=8236017761923597917' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/8236017761923597917'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/8236017761923597917'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/12/analyzing-dana-evelands-fastball.html' title='Analyzing Dana Eveland&apos;s Fastball'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PFj1QolhYr4/TuVSDEEWudI/AAAAAAAAAnw/oCmnW--CRa0/s72-c/eveland+fastball+v+and+m.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-925546166557778152</id><published>2011-12-13T06:00:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-13T06:00:09.957-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shepherd'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Science of Baseball'/><title type='text'>Science of Baseball: Best Way to Warm Up on Deck</title><content type='html'>&lt;b&gt;Effects of Various Warm-Up Devices and Rest Period Lengths on Batting Velocity and Acceleration of Intercollegiate Baseball Players&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Wilson et al.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;published ahead of printing Nov 2011&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://billieweiss.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/jj_hardy.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://billieweiss.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/jj_hardy.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;The basis of this research was to determine how to improve a hitter's ability to make contact on a pitch.&amp;nbsp; The acknowledge that a batter needs 0.3 seconds to process a pitch and swing at it and leaves only 0.1 seconds for a bat to choose to swing at a pitch or not.&amp;nbsp; The human body cannot improve upon recognition to a greater degree, so the only way to improve hitting in terms of time is to increase bat speed.&amp;nbsp; The idea is that by reducing bat speed, you increase the time a time can choose whether to swing or not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Previous study have looked at warm up devices/approaches and their impact on an individual's batspeed.&amp;nbsp; A study using high school players tested warm up devices that range in weight from 23 to 51 oz with the greatest bat speed resulting from warming up with bats weighing between 26 and 34 oz (Derenne et al. 1992).&amp;nbsp; Another study looked at the effect using a doughnut weighing 28 oz on a 34 oz bat.&amp;nbsp; It result in the change in swing mechanics and a decrease in bat speed (Southard and Groomer, 2003).&amp;nbsp; A third study found that using a 55 oz bat to warm up resulted in decreased bat speed when using a 31.5 oz. (Montoya et al. 2009).&amp;nbsp; A final study using different bat devices (a study we discussed earlier this year) found that collegiate baseball players did not have their bat speed altered with any tested approach (Szymanski et al. 2011).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What those previous studies did not investigate was what effect the rest period had between warming up and swinging at a pitch.&amp;nbsp; They used 16 Division II baseball players.&amp;nbsp; Players practiced with one of five warm up bats on successive days.&amp;nbsp; The weights were 23, 30, 34, 38, and 50 oz.&amp;nbsp; The individuals then swung a 30 oz bat one, two, four, and eight minutes after warming up.&amp;nbsp; Four metrics were measured: peak velocity, peak acceleration, peak velocity at peak acceleration, and time to reach peak acceleration.&amp;nbsp; Players would warm up and swing the 30 oz bat.&amp;nbsp; Have ten minutes of rest.&amp;nbsp; Then they would warm up with a specific experimental warm up bat and then swing the 30 oz bat.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The results were interesting.&amp;nbsp; None of the warm up bats affected the players ability to generate bat speed.&amp;nbsp; This agrees with the other study using collegiate athletes.&amp;nbsp; It may be that once a player reaches a certain level that warm up devices do not improve or impair bat speed.&amp;nbsp; However, they did find that the more time the player spent resting between his warm up swings and hitting resulted in greater bat speed.&amp;nbsp; For example, the lowest bat speed was measured during the warm up period.&amp;nbsp; The greatest bat speed was measured eight minutes after warming up.&amp;nbsp; No time period after eight minutes was measured, so it is uncertain when this effect tapers off.&amp;nbsp; Bat speed increased by 8% between warm up and eight minutes.&amp;nbsp; Peak velocity at peak acceleration increased by 6%.&amp;nbsp; Peak acceleration increased by 8%.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This seems to suggest a couple things.&amp;nbsp; First off, a batter might be more susceptible to higher velocity pitches earlier in the count.&amp;nbsp; Second, a batter might be best off warming up in the tunnel when he is in the hole.&amp;nbsp; It may well be that all a batter should be doing on deck is watching the pitcher and lightly stretching.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-925546166557778152?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/925546166557778152/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=925546166557778152' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/925546166557778152'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/925546166557778152'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/12/science-of-baseball-best-way-to-warm-up.html' title='Science of Baseball: Best Way to Warm Up on Deck'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-4066711038370096081</id><published>2011-12-12T06:18:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-13T12:54:33.262-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Baltimore Orioles Prospects'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faleris'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Depot Chat'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 prospect rankings'/><title type='text'>2012 Top 25 Prospect Chat</title><content type='html'>Here is a link to all of our Winter 2012 Orioles Prospects pieces, including our "Minor League Year in Review" series and write-ups for each of the Top 25 prospects in the system. Our coverage concludes with our Top 25 Prospect chat below. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Top 25 Prospects&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Chat and all player write-ups together &lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/search/label/2012%20prospect%20rankings"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;*Primer for scouting grades &lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/primer-scouting-scale-and-prospect.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;MiLB Year in Review&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/milb-year-in-review-bowie-baysox-and.html"&gt;Double-A Bowie / Triple-A Norfolk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/10/milb-year-in-review-frederick-keys.html"&gt;Advanced-A Frederick&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/10/milb-year-in-review-delmarva-shorebirds.html"&gt;Class A Delmarva&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/10/milb-year-in-review-dsl-gcl-and.html"&gt;DSL Orioles / Rookie GCL Orioles / Short-season A Aberdeen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe src="http://www.coveritlive.com/index2.php/option=com_altcaster/task=viewaltcast/altcast_code=ba60dcf7e3/height=550/width=470" scrolling="no" height="550px" width="470px" frameBorder ="0" allowTransparency="true"  &gt;&lt;a href="http://www.coveritlive.com/mobile.php/option=com_mobile/task=viewaltcast/altcast_code=ba60dcf7e3" &gt;Camden Depot Top 25 O's Prospects&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-4066711038370096081?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/4066711038370096081/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=4066711038370096081' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/4066711038370096081'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/4066711038370096081'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/12/2012-top-25-prospect-chat.html' title='2012 Top 25 Prospect Chat'/><author><name>Nick J Faleris</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12413352719310759010</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-8943783823755791890</id><published>2011-12-10T07:59:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-10T09:49:39.084-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Eveland'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shepherd'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 offseason'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Teagarden'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Greg Miclat'/><title type='text'>Tempest in a Teapot: Teagarden and Eveland</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://pics.livejournal.com/gailcarriger/pic/0019qg9c" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://pics.livejournal.com/gailcarriger/pic/0019qg9c" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;The one thing the Orioles' fan base has is hope.&amp;nbsp; Hope that with intelligent moves and a slight increase in spending, the Orioles could compete in the American League East.&amp;nbsp; There is certainly a good core of players in Baltimore with Nick Markakis, Adam Jones, J.J. Hardy, and Matt Wieters.&amp;nbsp; However, most successful teams win with several players who maximize production...otherwise known as superstars.&amp;nbsp; Of those four, Matt Wieters is the only one who you could make that argument.&amp;nbsp; Markakis needs to walk more, Jones needs to get more contact, and Hardy needs to stay healthy.&amp;nbsp; This is not a combination of guys like Kevin Youkilis, Adrian Gonzalez, Dustrin Pedroia, and Jacoby Elsbury.&amp;nbsp; It is not a combination of guys like CC Sabathia, Robinson Cano, Mark Teixiera, and the rest in New York.&amp;nbsp; Nor is it like David Price, James Shields, Evan Longoria, and Ben Zobrist.&amp;nbsp; The Orioles need some complementary pieces and it wouldn't hurt if a couple of them were superstar quality players.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One avenue to get that type of player is free agency.&amp;nbsp; Premier players are becoming more and more a rarity on the free agent market.&amp;nbsp; The Orioles are a middle market team (perhaps barely small market).&amp;nbsp; Teams like the Yankees pull in about 180 MM in profit from their regional network.&amp;nbsp; The Angels just signed a deal with their yearly income being at least 100 MM.&amp;nbsp; From what we know about Baltimore, the base pay is about 30 MM and we do not know how much gets thrown on top of that.&amp;nbsp; The revenue of MASN as a whole is about 170 MM.&amp;nbsp; The point simply being that when the higher revenue teams want someone like Albert Pujols, the Orioles simply cannot compete with them.&amp;nbsp; Teams with higher revenue streams will be willing to hand out inflated deals because they have a greater margin of safety with which to play.&amp;nbsp; Think about AJ Burnett.&amp;nbsp; Some of the fan base was upset that the Orioles did not outbid the Yankees and AJ Burnett has shown that he is clearly not an elite pitcher.&amp;nbsp; He consists of about eight percent of the Yankees payroll.&amp;nbsp; For the Orioles it would be more like twenty percent of the payroll.&amp;nbsp; There is just no good reason to leverage your team to that degree.&amp;nbsp; I am not saying that a team should never invest twenty percent of their payroll in a player, I am saying that when two teams go after the same player that the richer team will force an inflation of cost where it becomes untenable for the lower revenue team to invest in that player.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This leaves trades as a more suitable option for a lower revenue team.&amp;nbsp; Unfortunately, the Orioles do not have a great abundance of minor league talent.&amp;nbsp; The team should not let go of their top three: Manny Machado, Dylan Bundy (who really cannot be practically traded until this summer), and Jonathan Schoop.&amp;nbsp; Beyond those three are a short collection of players who have a solid, but not elite ceiling.&amp;nbsp; The value drops away rapidly after that.&amp;nbsp; It is not a strong footing to deal from.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Two deals have been made.&amp;nbsp; Neither of them are for superstars.&amp;nbsp; They are minor deals and ones that the baseball world in general has not paid much attention.&amp;nbsp; This was to be expected as many of the local Baltimore reporters mentioned that trades were going to happen and that no one should get too excited.&amp;nbsp; The aftermath of these trades illustrates a few things: (1) fan bases pay attention to prospects these days, (2) fan bases understand the abstract value of &lt;i&gt;prospects&lt;/i&gt;, and (3) fan bases significantly overvalue their prospects.&amp;nbsp; If you go back twenty years, these deals would have been met with a decent amount of fanfare.&amp;nbsp; Taylor Teagarden was a top prospect and Dana Eveland ate people up in the minors earlier in his career and threw a one hitter against the Orioles a couple years back.&amp;nbsp; I want to dive a little more into the two deals.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Taylor Teagarden (C) for Randy Henry (RHRP) and Greg Miclat (INF)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is not a very interesting trade.&amp;nbsp; The Orioles acquired a defense oriented back up catcher with some pop (not much else).&amp;nbsp; He displays good technique behind the plate which makes his above average arm play better.&amp;nbsp; He is a strong pull hitter who waits for his pitches when he is at the plate.&amp;nbsp; Based on the Pitch F/X numbers, it appears that he tries to sit back on fastballs and change ups.&amp;nbsp; s back up catchers go, he is a solid one.&amp;nbsp; It&amp;nbsp; has been reported that Buck Showalter wanted Teagarden, which leaves one hoping that Buck realizes that Teagarden's ceiling is not what it was thought to be when Buck was in Texas.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Randy Henry has been a pitcher that has been brought along slowly in the Orioles system.&amp;nbsp; He was one of the injury upside selections in the 2009 draft.&amp;nbsp; He has a plus fastball and throws strikes with it.&amp;nbsp; It is a pitch that works in the low minors, but his limited repertoire will prove to be a challenge as he advances through the minors.&amp;nbsp; I had him about 30 deep in my list and the last list I saw from Nick had him outside of his top 25.&amp;nbsp; For me to have him rated higher, I would have to see him locate his fastball better and, more importantly, develop his breaking ball.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Greg Miclat was taken the year before in the 2008 draft out of Virginia.&amp;nbsp; He was a slap hitter that had a wrist injury.&amp;nbsp; The hope was that with a change in mechanics and getting healthy would allow Miclat to show more gap power.&amp;nbsp; The power never truly arrived and at 24 he will likely make his debut in AAA.&amp;nbsp; He has shown the ability to handle second base and can fill in elsewhere in a pinch.&amp;nbsp; He shows good base running instincts.&amp;nbsp; I had him as the Orioles' 9th prospect and, according to my last conversation with Nick, he had Miclat in the 12-15 range.&amp;nbsp; We both saw him as a future utility infielder who would have several years in the Majors on the bench.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The argument against this trade is that you can go out and sign a back up catcher and then you do not have to give up &lt;i&gt;prospects&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Some focus on Henry's ceiling as a late inning fireball reliever or Miclat's ceiling of being an average second baseman.&amp;nbsp; It is ignored how unlikely it is that either event will occur.&amp;nbsp; Henry lacks pitches and needs to improvement his placement.&amp;nbsp; That just does not automatically happen.&amp;nbsp; Miclat's lack of power and lack of top end speed typically means that it is difficult for a player like that to succeed against more advanced pitchers found in the Majors.&amp;nbsp; Teagarden provides the team with a solid defensive catcher with some power.&amp;nbsp; Those are not found littered upon the ground.&amp;nbsp; The value of that profile is not great, but it certainly is not easy to find.&amp;nbsp; To put it another way, Teagarden has 392 plate appearances and a career WAR of 1.7.&amp;nbsp; Guys like that pretend they are starters and typically do not sign to catch behind a player like Matt Wieters.&amp;nbsp; They typically sign where they can start and then show why they have never started extensively over their career.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Dana Eveland (LHSP) for Jarret Martin (LHP) and Tyler Henson (OF)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dana Eveland has been given lots of chances.&amp;nbsp; Milwaukee, Arizona, Oakland, Toronto, Pittsburgh, and the Dodgers have all had him in their organizations.&amp;nbsp; He is a lefty that shows promise with a somewhat sterling minor league record and a MLB career with moments where it looked like everything clicked.&amp;nbsp; Last summer, Eveland threw 154 innings for the Albuquerque Isotopes with a 4.38 ERA that looks better when it is recognized that the league average ERA was 5.11.&amp;nbsp; In a handful of innings for the Dodgers (29.2), Eveland struck few, walked fewer, and induced grounders at a rate of 55%.&amp;nbsp; His xFIP in that stint was 3.60.&amp;nbsp; I would be hard pressed to say he can do that in 2012 because he just does not have the track record and that he was acquired for not much in return.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jarret Martin was a 2008 19th round selection and a 2009 18th round selection by the Orioles.&amp;nbsp; During to injuries, he was not able to entire professional ball until 2010 with 59.2 IP in Bluefield.&amp;nbsp; He had 110.2 IP for Delmarva last year with a 4.96 ERA (league average was 4.11).&amp;nbsp; He sports a low 90s fastball and has some touch for a curve and change.&amp;nbsp; His mechanics need help as he tends to throw across his body which is a major reason why his walk totals are so high.&amp;nbsp; Neither Nick or myself had him as a top 20 prospect.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tyler Henson was a 5th round selection in the 2006 draft.&amp;nbsp; Next year if he is not placed on the Dodgers' 40 man roster, he will be a MiL free agent.&amp;nbsp; This should be informative with respect to his value.&amp;nbsp; Henson came into the organization as an athletic player with good power upside.&amp;nbsp; However, he has not been able to generate a high enough contact rate and he did not show himself to be adept in the infield.&amp;nbsp; In the history of Camden Depot, we have written about him once.&amp;nbsp; He is still young at 24 going into next year...I just do not see a great improvement happening.&amp;nbsp; Henson will provide good AAA filler for several more years and may even see a cup of coffee or two.&amp;nbsp; I have a hard time seeing anything more than that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The argument against this trade is that you can Minor League invite players like Eveland as he was invited to the Dodgers' camp last year.&amp;nbsp; As with the former deal discussed, the argument is really about signing these abstract nebulous players that exist everywhere instead of dealing out lower level prospects.&amp;nbsp; Some people love Martin's look and that he has the foundation for a good repertoire.&amp;nbsp; There is just a lot for him to overcome.&amp;nbsp; It just does not happen.&amp;nbsp; I have not heard anyone lament Henson's movement, so I think people understand his worth.&amp;nbsp; So why Eveland and not player X?&amp;nbsp; Orioles' scouts apparently like him as many teams' scouts have before.&amp;nbsp; He has been a part of three deals where decent pieces have moved.&amp;nbsp; Maybe the Orioles' scouts think Eveland has finally put it together and has a higher upside than your typical minor league invite opportunities.&amp;nbsp; The point being, if he is your guy and you do not have to give up much value to get him, then get him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Conclusion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Teagarden and Eveland are not big pieces.&amp;nbsp; They are not going to change the direction of this franchise.&amp;nbsp; They are not star players.&amp;nbsp; They are additional pieces likely to be worth less than two wins for the team in 2012.&amp;nbsp; Eveland may not even make the club.&amp;nbsp; For a team that will struggle to reach .500, these are inconsequential moves.&amp;nbsp; However, young pitchers benefit from good defensive catchers and rotations always need arm for innings.&amp;nbsp; That are useful pieces, but not particularly valuable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Henry, Miclat, Martin, and Henson are not big pieces.&amp;nbsp; None of them have superstar ceilings.&amp;nbsp; Their presence in the organization does not change the future of this organization.&amp;nbsp; Players &lt;i&gt;like&lt;/i&gt; them are needed in every organization, but &lt;i&gt;these&lt;/i&gt; players specifically are not needed.&amp;nbsp; Does that make sense?&amp;nbsp; A C level or lower prospect alone has little value, but your organization should have a bunch of C level prospects.&amp;nbsp; Likewise, one lottery ticket is near worthless while ten lottery tickets have value.&amp;nbsp; It is an odds game.&amp;nbsp; What differs between lottery tickets and players is that it is possible to differentiate value between players.&amp;nbsp; They are not the same.&amp;nbsp; The key here is that the organization needs to trust its scouts in determining that these four players are not likely to provide any meaningful production for the Orioles.&amp;nbsp; That holding onto them will do little to improve the standing of the team.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That level of sensitivity...the ability to discern between quality C level prospects and non-quality C level prospects is difficult.&amp;nbsp; People get paid to do that and spend years and years getting better and better.&amp;nbsp; That is not to say that they are always right, but it should give us all pause when we decide whether or not to so completely and aggressively dismiss any merit to the two above trades.&amp;nbsp; How much do we actually know?&amp;nbsp; How comfortable do we feel extrapolating beyond what we know?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Personally, I find the trades to be somewhat pointless.&amp;nbsp; I do not really appreciate what they both have to offer.&amp;nbsp; I would prefer John Hester backing up Wieters and keeping both Henry and Miclat.&amp;nbsp; I am not particularly impressed with Eveland and find it rare that players all of a sudden break out.&amp;nbsp; That said, the value being exchanged here between these teams is minimal.&amp;nbsp; I may disagree with the deals, but it is not worth making much fuss over.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-8943783823755791890?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/8943783823755791890/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=8943783823755791890' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/8943783823755791890'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/8943783823755791890'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/12/tempest-in-teapot-teagarden-and-eveland.html' title='Tempest in a Teapot: Teagarden and Eveland'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-4759837219088949578</id><published>2011-12-09T14:59:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-09T17:29:11.377-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ryan berry'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Baltimore Orioles Prospects'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='oliver drake'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='gabriel lino'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='matt angle'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faleris'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='trent mummey'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 prospect rankings'/><title type='text'>2012 Top 25 prospects: #16-20</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:x-small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Follow us on Twitter: &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/CamdenDepot"&gt;@CamdenDepot&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For prospects 11-25 on our Top 25, write-ups will be abbreviated, with five prospects examined in each of the next three pieces. Prospects 16-20 rank as follows:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;#16 Gabriel Lino&lt;br /&gt;#17 Oliver Drake&lt;br /&gt;#18 Matt Angle&lt;br /&gt;#19 Ryan Berry&lt;br /&gt;#20 Trent Mummey&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Player: Gabriel Lino&lt;br /&gt;Position: catcher&lt;br /&gt;Ht/Wt: 6-3/195&lt;br /&gt;B/T: R/R&lt;br /&gt;Age at 11/2011: 18y6m&lt;br /&gt;2011 level(s): Rookie GCL Orioles&lt;br /&gt;2011 statistics: &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=lino--001gab"&gt;Baseball-reference&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href="http://minorleaguecentral.com/player.php?pid=593449"&gt;Minor League Central&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Overall Future Potential: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;41-45&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prospect Grade: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;C+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;*&lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/primer-scouting-scale-and-prospect.html"&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; for primer on Grades&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Discussion&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Backstop Gabriel Lino has some offensive upside and a strong arm behind the dish, but may lack the lateral quickness needed to stick at catcher long term, particularly if he gets any bigger. He has soft hands but lets his glove float a little too often when receiving, which he'll need to tighten. The power is still raw, and does not project particularly well to a corner infield spot. Just 18-years old this year, he has time to work on his problem areas. Should his power tool emerge, he could shift to first base in order to allow more developmental focus on his bat. He is on the large side for a catcher, and it still remains to be seen how he will hold up physically over the stress of a long full season ball season.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ceiling: Starting catcher on first division team&lt;br /&gt;Floor: Non-prospect&lt;br /&gt;Projected: Fringe back-up catcher&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;_________________________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Player: Oliver Drake&lt;br /&gt;Position: right-handed pitcher&lt;br /&gt;Ht/Wt: 6-4/210&lt;br /&gt;B/T: R/R&lt;br /&gt;Age at 11/2011: 21y11m&lt;br /&gt;2011 level(s): Advanced-A Frederick; Double-A Bowie; Triple-A Norfolk&lt;br /&gt;2011 statistics: &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=drake-001oli"&gt;Baseball-reference&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href="http://minorleaguecentral.com/player.php?pid=543118"&gt;Minor League Central&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Overall Future Potential: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;41-45&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prospect Grade: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;C+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;*&lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/primer-scouting-scale-and-prospect.html"&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; for primer on Grades&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Discussion&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Drake has a compact, under-control delivery and maintains a good line to home. His 89-92 mph fastball has some life and can induce soft contact down in the zone. His cut slider is a solid average to above-average offering, and he has also flashed average throughout his pro career with both his off-speed and curve. Drake has the body and endurance to chew through innings, but his stuff may be better suited for the pen, where his fastball/slider combo could be solid in middle-inning work. Baltimore will give him a second run at Bowie next year. If he stumbles, he could shift to the pen prior to promotion to Norfolk.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ceiling: #4 starter on first division team&lt;br /&gt;Floor: Non-prospect&lt;br /&gt;Projected: Middle-reliever&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;_________________________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Player: Matt Angle&lt;br /&gt;Position: center field&lt;br /&gt;Ht/Wt: 5-10/175&lt;br /&gt;B/T: L/R&lt;br /&gt;Age at 11/2011: 26y2m&lt;br /&gt;2011 level(s): Triple-A Norfolk; MLB Baltimore&lt;br /&gt;2011 statistics: &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=angle-001mat"&gt;Baseball-reference&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href="http://minorleaguecentral.com/player.php?pid=518408"&gt;Minor League Central&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Overall Future Potential: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;38-43&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prospect Grade: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;C+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;*&lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/primer-scouting-scale-and-prospect.html"&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; for primer on Grades&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Discussion&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Matt Angle arrived in Baltimore this summer with largely the profile expected of him since he entered the system in 2007. Devoid of power, the former Buckeye center fielder fits best as a 4th outfielder capable of plus defense and solid value as a pinch runner. He could slot in as a placeholder in a starting lineup, but it is unlikely he will be able to handle Major League velocity on the inner-half to the point that he maintains even a passable on-base percentage. He should have the inside track on the 4th outfield spot this spring, depending on what transpires over the remainder of this off-season, and could see significant innings as a late-inning defensive replacement, pinch runner and Sunday starter.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ceiling: 4th or 5th outfielder on first division team&lt;br /&gt;Floor: Four-A&lt;br /&gt;Projected: 4th or 5th outfielder on first division team&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;_________________________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Player: Ryan Berry&lt;br /&gt;Position: right-handed pitcher&lt;br /&gt;Ht/Wt: 6-1/195&lt;br /&gt;B/T: R/R&lt;br /&gt;Age at 11/2011: 23y2m&lt;br /&gt;2011 level(s): Rookie GCL Orioles; Short-season A Aberdeen; Advanced-A Frederick&lt;br /&gt;2011 statistics: &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=berry-002rya"&gt;Baseball-reference&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href="http://minorleaguecentral.com/player.php?pid=523252"&gt;Minor League Central&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Overall Future Potential: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;38-43&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prospect Grade: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;C&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;*&lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/primer-scouting-scale-and-prospect.html"&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; for primer on Grades&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Discussion&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Berry eased back into baseball activities in 2011, following off-season shoulder surgery. Originally projected as a potential mid-rotation starter, the resurfacing of shoulder issues may move Baltimore to shift the former Rice ace to the pen. When healthy, Berry boasts two curves, with a hard spike (or knuckle) curve being his best offering. His fastball is generally fringe-average velocity, sitting upper-80s to low-90s, but he could see a slight bump in velo if he shifts to shorter stints in the pen. 2011 was very much about building shoulder strength back-up; it will be interesting to see if Baltimore gives him another shot in a rotation or bumps him to relief to get him moving.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ceiling: #4/#5 starter on first division team&lt;br /&gt;Floor: Non-prospect&lt;br /&gt;Projected: Middle-reliever&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;_________________________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Player: Trent Mummey&lt;br /&gt;Position: outfield&lt;br /&gt;Ht/Wt: 5-10/185&lt;br /&gt;B/T: L/L&lt;br /&gt;Age at 11/2011: 22y11m&lt;br /&gt;2011 level(s): Class A Delmarva; Advanced-A Frederick&lt;br /&gt;2011 statistics: &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=mummey001tre"&gt;Baseball-reference&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href="http://minorleaguecentral.com/player.php?pid=592577"&gt;Minor League Central&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Overall Future Potential: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;38-43&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prospect Grade: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;C&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;*&lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/primer-scouting-scale-and-prospect.html"&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; for primer on Grades&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Discussion&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Trent Mummey missed time after crashing into an outfield wall in May, then again due to hamstring issues later in the summer. While he only logged 29 games and 134 plate appearances this summer (14 and 69 in Delmarva and Frederick, respectively), he showed a good feel for the game and solidified his status as a prospect. Mummey has limited ceiling, but plays a good center field, runs well, and has a short swing capable of spraying the gaps. He's undersized, but strong, and likely fits best as a future 4th outfielder. He gets tied up on the inner half when faced with good velocity, and his ability to adjust to more advanced secondary stuff at Double-A Bowie will say a lot about his future potential.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ceiling: 4th outfielder on a first division team&lt;br /&gt;Floor: Non-prospect&lt;br /&gt;Projected: Fringe bench&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-4759837219088949578?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/4759837219088949578/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=4759837219088949578' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/4759837219088949578'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/4759837219088949578'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/12/2012-top-25-prospects-16-20.html' title='2012 Top 25 prospects: #16-20'/><author><name>Nick J Faleris</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12413352719310759010</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-217485621477475087</id><published>2011-12-09T13:00:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-09T14:56:26.028-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Michael Wright'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Glynn Davis'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ryan adams'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Eduardo Rogriguez'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Baltimore Orioles Prospects'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faleris'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 prospect rankings'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Xavier Avery'/><title type='text'>2012 Top 25 Prospects: #11 - 15</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:x-small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Follow us on Twitter: &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/CamdenDepot"&gt;@CamdenDepot&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For prospects 11-25 on our Top 25, write-ups will be abbreviated, with five prospects examined in each of the next three pieces. Prospects 11-15 rank as follows:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;#11 Xavier Avery&lt;br /&gt;#12 Ryan Adams&lt;br /&gt;#13 Glynn Davis&lt;br /&gt;#14 Eduardo Rodriguez&lt;br /&gt;#15 Michael Wright&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Player: Xavier Avery&lt;br /&gt;Position: center field/left field&lt;br /&gt;Ht/Wt: 5-11/180&lt;br /&gt;B/T: L/L&lt;br /&gt;Age at 11/2011: 21y11m&lt;br /&gt;2011 level(s): Double-A Bowie&lt;br /&gt;2011 statistics: &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=avery-001xav"&gt;Baseball-reference&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href="http://minorleaguecentral.com/player.php?pid=542897"&gt;Minor League Central&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Overall Future Potential: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;46-50&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prospect Grade: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;B-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;*&lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/primer-scouting-scale-and-prospect.html"&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; for primer on Grades&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Discussion&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Xavier Avery remains an upside prospect with promise, despite completing his third full season with strikeouts in over 20% of his plate appearances. The reason for optimism is simple -- he continues to keep his head above water while being promoted by the O's and remaining one of the youngest players in the league, year-in and year-out. He will start 2012 at age 22, and could get a bump to Norfolk following a solid AFL campaign and provided he shows well in the Spring. A speed-first talent, Avery is among the fastest prospects in the system (along with Kyle Hudson and Glynn Davis -- all "80" runners on the 20/80 scouting scale). His heavy left/right split could spell a future as part of a platoon. If he can tighten-up his routes in center field, he should have easy value as a fourth outfielder. His ability to improve against lefties and to learn to more consistently ID off-speed will determine if he can become a regular at the highest level.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ceiling: Average starting center fielder on first division team&lt;br /&gt;Floor: Four-A&lt;br /&gt;Projected: 4th or 5th outfielder on first division team&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;_________________________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Player: Ryan Adams&lt;br /&gt;Position: second base/third base&lt;br /&gt;Ht/Wt: 5-11/185&lt;br /&gt;B/T: R/R&lt;br /&gt;Age at 11/2011: 24y7m&lt;br /&gt;2011 level(s): Triple-A Norfolk; MLB Baltimore&lt;br /&gt;2011 statistics: &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/a/adamsry01.shtml"&gt;Baseball-reference&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href="http://minorleaguecentral.com/player.php?pid=502031"&gt;Minor League Central&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Overall Future Potential: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;44-48&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prospect Grade: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;C+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;*&lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/primer-scouting-scale-and-prospect.html"&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; for primer on Grades&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Discussion&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Offensively, Adams will swing and miss a fair amount due to average bat speed, and top velocity will likely always give him trouble. But he keeps his swing simple and tight, and finds ways to get the barrel to the ball. His raw power is above-average, with potential average in-game applicability. He could carveout a spot as a 6 or 7 hitter in a first division line-up if he finds enough gaps and is able to produce 15 or so homeruns per year. Defensively, Adams still struggles with his footwork, though he has made strides in cleaning-up the set-up on his throws (which in turn has improved his play-to-play accuracy). He is the type of player that will always need to work to maintain an adequate defensive disposition, but could be making enough progress to be passable at either third base or second base. Adams could be adequate as an inexpensive bridge to Miclat, Hoes or Schoop, but probably profiles best as a bench bat and occasional starter at either second or third.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ceiling: Fringe-average second baseman on first division team&lt;br /&gt;Floor: Four-A&lt;br /&gt;Projected: Useful bench player&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;_________________________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Player: Glynn Davis&lt;br /&gt;Position: center field&lt;br /&gt;Ht/Wt: 6-3/170&lt;br /&gt;B/T: R/R&lt;br /&gt;Age at 11/2011: 19y11m&lt;br /&gt;2011 level(s): Rookie GCL Orioles; Short-season A Aberdeen; Advanced-A Frederick&lt;br /&gt;2011 statistics: &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=davis-000gly"&gt;Baseball-reference&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href="http://minorleaguecentral.com/player.php?pid=607974&amp;amp;split=3000"&gt;Minor League Central&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Overall Future Potential: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;44-48&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prospect Grade: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;C+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;*&lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/primer-scouting-scale-and-prospect.html"&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; for primer on Grades&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Discussion&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Glynn Davis ranked as the 16th best prospect in O's system this time last year -- a lofty spot considering he signed as an undrafted free agent out of Catonsville CC (Md.) earlier that summer. In his first full year of pro ball the center fielder made solid progress, showing well in the Gulf Coast and Aberdeen before making a one-game appearance with the Keys. The speedy Davis is a true "80" runner on the 20-80 scouting scale and shows enough feel to project as an average to above-average defender. He has begun to improved his approach this summer both offensively and defensively, but remains very much a work in progress. Davis is similar in body type to Hunter Pence, though he lacks Pence's current physicality. Offensively he good develop an average hit tool with fringe-average power, provided he continues to add strength. If he can develop an on-base approach, he could be useful as a #1 or #2 hitter capable of reaching base via infield hit and stretching extra bases as he works out the gaps. He'll need to mature, physically, but has time to do so. He should get the gig as starting center fielder in Delmarva next summer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ceiling: Average center fielder on first division team&lt;br /&gt;Floor: Non-prospect&lt;br /&gt;Projected: 4th or 5th outfielder on 1st division team&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;_________________________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Player: Eduardo Rodriguez&lt;br /&gt;Position: left-handed pitcher&lt;br /&gt;Ht/Wt: 6-2/175&lt;br /&gt;B/T: L/L&lt;br /&gt;Age at 11/2011: 18y7m&lt;br /&gt;2011 level(s): Rookie GCL Orioles; Short-season A Aberdeen&lt;br /&gt;2011 statistics: &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=rodrig006edu"&gt;Baseball-reference&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href="http://minorleaguecentral.com/player.php?pid=593958"&gt;Minor League Central&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Overall Future Potential: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;44-48&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prospect Grade: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;C+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;*&lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/primer-scouting-scale-and-prospect.html"&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; for primer on Grades&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Discussion&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Eduardo Rodriguez does not have putaway stuff, but there is a chance for three workable pitches and he had them all on display through his ten starts and one relief appearance in the 2011 GCL Orioles season. The 18-year old has a broad frame and thickening physique, which bodes well for his future physicality. His motion is generally loose and easy, coming with a clean three-quarters release and staying under control throughout. He frequently fails to get on top of his breaking ball -- a pitch that will flash some bite but for now looks like a future average offering due to rotation and plane. His fastball is an upper-80s offering that bumps 91/92 mph, and he can spot it to both sides of the plate. His change-up has the potential to outdistance his breaker as his go-to secondary offering, and he shows feel for it at an early stage. Rodriguez likely tops out as a mid-rotation arm, more likely to fall somewhere in the back-end of a rotation. None of his offerings project to plus right now, but his fastball and off-speed could grade out as above-average as he continues to refine&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ceiling: #3 starter on first division team&lt;br /&gt;Floor: Non-prospect&lt;br /&gt;Projected: #4/#5 starter on first division team&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Player: Michael Wright&lt;br /&gt;Position: right-handed pitcher&lt;br /&gt;Ht/Wt: 6-5/195&lt;br /&gt;B/T: R/R&lt;br /&gt;Age at 11/2011: 21y10m&lt;br /&gt;2011 level(s): Rookie GCL Orioles; Short-season Aberdeen; Class A Delmarva&lt;br /&gt;2011 statistics: &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=wright000den"&gt;Baseball-reference&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Overall Future Potential: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;44-48&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prospect Grade: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;C+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;*&lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/primer-scouting-scale-and-prospect.html"&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; for primer on Grades&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Discussion&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Mike Wright started seven games for Aberdeen but may fit better as a sinker/slider reliever, long term, in spite of his workhorse build. He has a short arm circle on the back side and low arm slot, creating a tough angle for hitters to try and square his sinker/slider combo. His sinker is a low-90s offering that can bump mid-90s in short stints, and his slider compliments it well. He spots both pitches to both sides of the plate. His offspeed lags behind in development, and will likely be a focus for 2012. If he can develop a useful change to go with a solid sinker/slider combo, he could top out as a mid-rotation innings-eater.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ceiling: #3/#4 starter on a first division team&lt;br /&gt;Floor: Non-prospect&lt;br /&gt;Projected: Middle-relief arm&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-217485621477475087?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/217485621477475087/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=217485621477475087' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/217485621477475087'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/217485621477475087'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/12/2012-top-25-prospects-11-25.html' title='2012 Top 25 Prospects: #11 - 15'/><author><name>Nick J Faleris</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12413352719310759010</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-2247384741784375082</id><published>2011-12-05T06:30:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-05T06:30:01.141-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shepherd'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Diamonds by the Numbers'/><title type='text'>Reviewing the 2011 Collegiate Diamonds By the Numbers</title><content type='html'>Last year I took a very simple approach to finding potentially undervalued talent.&amp;nbsp; This was my criteria:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Plate Discipline&lt;/i&gt; - Walk Rate (&amp;gt;15%) and BB:K ratio (&amp;gt;1.50)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Contact Rate&lt;/i&gt; - Batting Average (&amp;gt;.300)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Power&lt;/i&gt; - ISO (&amp;gt;.180)&lt;/blockquote&gt;For a player to be noted, they had to hit on each category.&amp;nbsp; Such a simple foundation will probably be fraught with error, but I will go on and evaluate how well it is working.&amp;nbsp; I won't discuss Anthony Rendon because...well... don't think we really need to follow someone who Baseball America ranked as the best prospect in last year's draft.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Rob Kral&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;C/1B, College of Charleston&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kral improved on his 16th round selection in 2010 by being taken by the San Diego Padres in the 10th round this past year.&amp;nbsp; He wound up playing 14 games in the Arizona Rookie League.&amp;nbsp; Twelve of those games were as a catcher.&amp;nbsp; I am unsure how well he caught, but teams were averaging about 2.5 stolen bases per game with him catching one out of nine base runners.&amp;nbsp; Although this is a very thin analysis, it appears his first taste of the pro game behind the plate has left him with a great margin for improvement if he wishes to stay there.&amp;nbsp; Otherwise, he did quite well with a 275/463/425 line.&amp;nbsp; It will be interesting to see how he fares against more accomplished players instead of the smattering of high school and college signees you find in Rookie ball these days.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Joe Panik&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;SS, St. John's&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Panik was seen by many as a supplement round or second round talent.&amp;nbsp; He would up being selected by the San Francisco Giants with the 29th selection in the first round.&amp;nbsp; He signed relatively quickly and played short-season ball.&amp;nbsp; He did well at the plate with a line of 341/401/467.&amp;nbsp; Baseball America ranked him as the fourth best prospect in his league.&amp;nbsp; Although at a higher level than Kral, I think it is still important to note that these two players may be able to take advantage of pitchers at this level.&amp;nbsp; Having high plate discipline and a solid contact rate will often translate into good production at these lower levels where even the best pitchers have poor command of their offerings.&amp;nbsp; Regardless, it is nice to see the first two picks to have done well so far.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Dan Gamache&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2B/3B, Auburn&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gamache was taken in the 6th round by the Pittsburgh Pirates.&amp;nbsp; That is likely before when I would have taken him as I am not completely sure about my criteria and none of the people I talk to had Gamache ranked in their top 300.&amp;nbsp; The Pirates did though.&amp;nbsp; He signed early and played 6 games in Rookie ball and 20 in short season A ball.&amp;nbsp; He appeared advanced for Rookie ball and overwhelmed at short season.&amp;nbsp; His line was 231/292/338.&amp;nbsp; I still have faith in him being a better player than this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Taylor Dugas&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;OF, Alabama&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dugas was selected in the 8th round by the Chicago Cubs, but decided to go back to school for his senior year.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Matt Duffy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3B, Tennessee&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Duffy was selected in the 20th round by the Houston Astros.&amp;nbsp; He wound up playing 63 games in short season ball with a final line of 298/370/417.&amp;nbsp; He showed good contact, an above average plate discipline, and the hope that his many doubles may turn into a few more home runs.&amp;nbsp; It was a very solid debut by a 20th round selection.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Matt Skole&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3B, Georgia Tech&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Matt Skole was drafted by the Washington Nationals in the fifth round and wound up earn Baseball America's respect by ranking him as the 13th best prospect in the New York Penn League.&amp;nbsp; His final line was 290/382/438.&amp;nbsp; He showed good contact, discipline, and power.&amp;nbsp; None of which was great, but all were solid.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Players that just missed the criteria:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Levi Michael&lt;br /&gt;MIF, North Carolina&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Twins selected Michael with the 30th pick in the 2011 draft.&amp;nbsp; He did not play as a professional last year.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;David Chester&lt;br /&gt;1B, Pittsburgh&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chester did not qualify under the criteria set above have barely missed the contact rate portion.&amp;nbsp; He was chosen by the Red Sox in the 33rd round and played rookie ball last year.&amp;nbsp; He has continued to show good power, but has not been able to earn walks and has been having issues with contact rate.&amp;nbsp; His line is 243/305/450.&amp;nbsp; If I ran a draft (which it is probably a good thing I do not), Chester would have been a pick for me in the 20s along with several non-draftees: Ross Heffley, Rob Lind, Mark Micowski.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-2247384741784375082?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/2247384741784375082/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=2247384741784375082' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/2247384741784375082'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/2247384741784375082'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/12/reviewing-2011-collegiate-diamonds-by.html' title='Reviewing the 2011 Collegiate Diamonds By the Numbers'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-8204537152461507179</id><published>2011-12-05T05:29:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-05T05:29:00.074-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shepherd'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sandwiches'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bobby Valentine'/><title type='text'>Bobby Valentine Did Not Invent the Sandwich Wrap</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://img4.myrecipes.com/i/recipes/ay/08/wrap-sandwich-ay-1875523-l.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://img4.myrecipes.com/i/recipes/ay/08/wrap-sandwich-ay-1875523-l.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Bobby Valentine &lt;a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204012004577072890725228440.html"&gt;claims&lt;/a&gt; he invented the sandwich wrap.&amp;nbsp; The story goes that Bobby decided to use a tortilla instead of bread on his menu for a restaurant he founded in 1980.&amp;nbsp; Of course, flatbread sandwiches long predate 1980 as tortillas and pitas have been used for sandwiches in Central America and the Mediterranean for decades if not centuries.&amp;nbsp; The distinction for the sandwich wrap though is that a sandwich traditionally made with slices of bread is instead made with a tortilla.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is a statement that is too good to be true and it is.&amp;nbsp; In &lt;a href="http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=336&amp;amp;dat=19760628&amp;amp;id=vyJZAAAAIBAJ&amp;amp;sjid=NH8DAAAAIBAJ&amp;amp;pg=4069,6523690"&gt;June 28, 1976&lt;/a&gt;'s Desert News print a short blurb about pita bread and how you can use it to make regular sandwiches like cold cuts.&amp;nbsp; It also states that if you wish to give it a "taco-take off" to use a tortilla.&amp;nbsp; You can actually find earlier mentions of diet tips about replacing regular bread with pitas for sandwich's, but that 1976 column is the earliest I found mention of use a tortilla as a bread replacement.&amp;nbsp; You can also find earlier mentions of people using &lt;a href="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=pllQAAAAIBAJ&amp;amp;sjid=-FcDAAAAIBAJ&amp;amp;pg=5533,1474269&amp;amp;dq=pita+sandwich&amp;amp;hl=en"&gt;pitas&lt;/a&gt; for tuna sandwiches (1973) or &lt;a href="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=BsQqAAAAIBAJ&amp;amp;sjid=in4EAAAAIBAJ&amp;amp;pg=3561,3238872&amp;amp;dq=instead-of-bread+sandwich&amp;amp;hl=en"&gt;lettuce&lt;/a&gt; to wrap their burgers.&amp;nbsp; Clearly the 70s were a time of extensive sandwich experimentation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If one wishes to find an earlier functional incarnation of the sandwich wrap, we can look at this &lt;a href="http://www.google.com/patents?id=8VJvAAAAEBAJ&amp;amp;pg=PA2&amp;amp;dq=wrap+sandwich+1927&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ei=Du_aTsD_KcLr0QHbk9X6AQ&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;ct=result&amp;amp;resnum=5&amp;amp;ved=0CEIQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&amp;amp;q&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;patent&lt;/a&gt; that was awarded in 1931.&amp;nbsp; The inventor was primarily concerned with creating a no mess sandwich and invented a tool to accomplish it.&amp;nbsp; It is a loaf hollower instead of a true wrap, but the basic idea is there for a wrap.&amp;nbsp; Combine the desire to create a sandwich that can contain juices and condiments with the increasing presence of tortillas in American restaurants and groceries...the idea that the sandwich wrap was invented in 1980 seems unlikely.&amp;nbsp; A better search feature than Google News would be able to find some mention of tortilla wrapped sandwiches that predate the 1976 column mentioned above.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think we can silence Bobby Valentine's claim.&amp;nbsp; Someone might want to revise Wikipedia too as most organizations seemed to use that as their source to explore the claim. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;---&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I do believe that I invented the apple and cola drink back in 1985.&amp;nbsp; As a six year old I decided it to be a good idea to mix apple juice and coke on a 1:1 ratio that was imbibed by using a medicine dropper.&amp;nbsp; I remember it tasting fantastic.&amp;nbsp; After 20 years, I tried it again and it did not resurrect that fond memory.&amp;nbsp; I would like to see someone actually enjoy my invention because I certainly do not.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-8204537152461507179?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/8204537152461507179/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=8204537152461507179' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/8204537152461507179'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/8204537152461507179'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/12/bobby-valentine-did-not-invent-sandwich.html' title='Bobby Valentine Did Not Invent the Sandwich Wrap'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-3196272715384276448</id><published>2011-12-04T06:00:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-04T06:00:05.270-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Payroll'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shepherd'/><title type='text'>Orioles' Payroll Flexibility</title><content type='html'>&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.bloggingstocks.com/media/2009/10/money-baseball.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.bloggingstocks.com/media/2009/10/money-baseball.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Over the past ten years, the Orioles team payroll has varied considerably.&amp;nbsp; It has been as high at 93.3MM in 2007 and as low as 51.6MM in 2004.&amp;nbsp; Last season, the club came in at 86.9MM and that is probably a good line for considering what the payroll could be next year and, perhaps, over the next few years.&amp;nbsp; That would be good for the 15th highest payroll in baseball.&amp;nbsp; The take home message there is that while the team is not poor, it is in no position to buy themselves into contention as long as we assume that there are no further streams of revenue to increase spending.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;The Orioles have a bit of flexibility in their payroll.&amp;nbsp; In 2012, they are obligated to pay five players 42.4MM: Nick Markakis (12.35MM), Brian Roberts (10MM), Mark Reynolds (7.833MM), J.J. Hardy (7.417MM), and Kevin Gregg (5.8MM).&amp;nbsp; They also have several players in line for arbitration for 28MM: Luke Scott (3rd arb; est. 6.2MM), Jeremy Guthrie (3rd arb; est. 7MM), Adam Jones (2nd arb; est. 7MM), Darren O'Day (2nd arb; est. 1.2MM), Jim Johnson (2nd arb; est. 2MM), Jeremy Accardo (2nd arb; 1.1MM), JoJo Reyes (1st arb, est. 1MM), Brad Bergesen (1st arb., est. 1MM), and Robert Andino (1st arb., est. 1.5MM).&amp;nbsp; That commits roughly 70.4MM for the 2012 season and leaves around 17MM left to improve the team.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This tells us two things:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;There is supposedly not much money left over to improve the team.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;70.4MM does not get you much to start with.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;In the future, things are likely to get worse.&amp;nbsp; Markakis' salary increase another 3MM, Roberts is around through 2013, Mark Reynolds has an 11MM team option, Guthrie and Scott become free agents, and there are a number of arbitration cases.&amp;nbsp; Jones enters into his final arbitration day in 2013 where his salary may go as high as 10MM from the 3.25MM he saw last year.&amp;nbsp; Johnson and Andino may see their arbitration values rise significantly if they wind up with the increase in playing time as a starting pitcher and starting infielder, respectively.&amp;nbsp; Finally, Brian Matusz, Matt Wieters, and Tommy Hunter become arbitration eligible.&amp;nbsp; It would not be surprising if the Orioles are at 87MM before entertaining a single free agent.&amp;nbsp; It could be argued that the ability to bring on a high price free agent would not present itself until 2014 at the earliest.&amp;nbsp; Brian Roberts' contract would open up a great deal of money, but that cash might be flipped over to Adam Jones.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As Dan Duquette has mentioned, the Orioles are going t have to be able to make the most of the non-premier free agent market.&amp;nbsp; That includes finding potential players like Mike Antonelli.&amp;nbsp; However, this model is more and more difficult because other teams are doing and have done the same thing.&amp;nbsp; Somehow, Duquette has to make up for lost ground and then become an industry leader in finding what others are overlooking.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-3196272715384276448?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/3196272715384276448/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=3196272715384276448' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/3196272715384276448'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/3196272715384276448'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/12/orioles-payroll-flexibility.html' title='Orioles&apos; Payroll Flexibility'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-995665972677293837</id><published>2011-12-03T09:34:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-03T11:32:16.587-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jeremy Guthrie'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shepherd'/><title type='text'>How Much is Jeremy Guthrie Worth?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://nimg.sulekha.com/sports/original700/jeremy-guthrie-2011-3-28-16-41-11.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="239" src="http://nimg.sulekha.com/sports/original700/jeremy-guthrie-2011-3-28-16-41-11.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;It has been mentioned by quite a few that Dan Duquette is entertaining offer for &lt;a href="http://www.masnsports.com/school_of_roch/2011/12/giving-up-pitching-for-pitching.html"&gt;Jeremy Guthrie&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; However, a major issue with Guthrie is that the team wants pitching to come back in return.&amp;nbsp; This sounds foolish and wrong headed, but this is exactly what happened when Koji Uehara was dealt.&amp;nbsp; A starting pitcher (depending on your definition of a starting pitcher) and a buy low corner infielder came back in return.&amp;nbsp; Guthrie is one face value worth more than Koji as he is a starter.&amp;nbsp; Guthrie will also cost more than Koji (~7MM vs 4MM).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;What is Jeremy Guthrie worth?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From 2007-2011, Guthrie is the pitchers with the most losses in baseball with 65.&amp;nbsp; The top ten behind Guthrie is Derek Lowe (64), Paul Maholm (62), Bronson Arroyo/Barry Zito (61), Matt Cain (60), Livan Hernandez (59), and John Danks/Edwin Jackson/Fausto Carmona (56).&amp;nbsp; The next slot at 55 is James Shields and Wandy Rodriguez with Mark Buerhle at 53 behind them.&amp;nbsp; I think the basic point when looking at this is when the electronic and media furor questions the worth of Jeremy Guthrie, the losingest pitcher of the last half decade, it rings analytically lazy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The bulk of Guthrie's losses have been over the past three years with 17, 14, and 17.&amp;nbsp; That looks bad, but you also have to consider his team.&amp;nbsp; The Baltimore Orioles have been an awful team.&amp;nbsp; They have been awful offensively and defensively.&amp;nbsp; During that stretch, only 2009 looks bad for Jeremy Guthrie when he earned a 1.3 fWAR.&amp;nbsp; It was the only time in his past five years that he had an fWAR under two.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For all intents and purposes, let us say that Guthrie will have his second worst season ever and produce a 2 fWAR.&amp;nbsp; That would put his value around 10 MM.&amp;nbsp; He would also be worth a 12 MM offer next year and therefore could bring back a draft pick that would be worth about 2 MM.&amp;nbsp; With a 2012 cost of 7 MM, I see that as 3-5 MM in surplus value.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;What does 5 MM get you?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Victor Wang determined the &lt;a href="http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/the-bright-side-of-losing-santana/"&gt;value&lt;/a&gt; for different prospects.&amp;nbsp; The numbers are a bit dated, but not by much as he did account for inflation that wound up not happening in baseball due to the economic stall out and drop.&amp;nbsp; I do not agree with his methods though as they take averages of value.&amp;nbsp; I think risk plays a greater role here and there should be a discount.&amp;nbsp; I would not go as far as to suggest using the median as that ignores the potential to have a player who achieves star status.&amp;nbsp; That said, I would probably take Wang's values, adjust them for today's market, and simply cut them in half.&amp;nbsp; It is not a very elegant method, but one that &lt;i&gt;feels&lt;/i&gt; more in line with hypothetical value vs. more certain value.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With that in mind, I see Guthrie worth a back end top 100 pitching prospect or two second tier pitching prospects.&amp;nbsp; The Orioles could also look toward manipulating the value and bringing back an MLB ready arm that has unfulfilled upside and is a &lt;i&gt;change of scenery&lt;/i&gt; player.&amp;nbsp; That is what Tommy Hunter was in the Uehara deal.&amp;nbsp; Hunter's unfulfilled upside though is that of maybe a 3 slot pitcher on a second division team if we are being kind.&amp;nbsp; That has use because teams need those kinds of players to round out the innings, but it was something the Rangers could afford to lose as they needed better performance out of the bull pen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Potential Deals?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Angels have been rumored to be in contact about Guthrie, but he appears to be Plan B or C.&amp;nbsp; Tyler Chatwood would have been a target, but he was deal in the Ianetta deal.&amp;nbsp; Other MLB ready arms to look at would be journeyman Jerome Williams or the potentially dependable Garrett Richards.&amp;nbsp; Michael Kohn could be an interesting arm in the pen if Jerome Williams was the MLB ready arm as Kohn can hold his own in a pen right now.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Texas Rangers&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Rangers need an MLB ready arm to fill in for the absence of CJ Wilson and they have built up a strong working relatonship with the Os.&amp;nbsp; Scott Feldman would be the MLB ready arm here.&amp;nbsp; He is at best a back end starter for second division team and really only has one good season to his name.&amp;nbsp; Feldman is also costing about 4 or 5 MM after arbitration.&amp;nbsp; I could see Feldman paired with Cody Buckel or Tanner Scheppers.&amp;nbsp; Both of those pitchers are prospects with a mid-rotation ceiling, but a strong middle relief floor.&amp;nbsp; Personally, I'd want Robbie Ross and Christian Villanueva as a good southpaw prospect and a corner infielder with some breakout potential.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Washington Nationals&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Nationals would be helped by being able to provide a veteran boost to their starting rotation and fill the role Livan Hernandez and Jason Marquis have provided.&amp;nbsp; A problem though with this matchup is that the Nationals do not have many tweener starting pitchers that could be a buy low proposition for the Orioles.&amp;nbsp; It could also be argued that with Strasburg, Peacock, Zimmerman, Detwiler, and Lannan among other they already have enough depth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;St. Louis Cardinals&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cardinals have been rumored to be on Mark Buerhle, but the Albert Pujols sweepstakes is locking up a great deal of their ability to spend.&amp;nbsp; Jeremy Guthrie may prove to be a good secondary option for them.&amp;nbsp; Setup man Lance Lynn I would think would be the guy the Os would zero in on.&amp;nbsp; He works in the low 90s as a starter and mid 90s as a reliever.&amp;nbsp; He would provide the Os with a player with a solid base as they try to make a starter out of him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Cincinnati Reds&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Reds have Yonder Alonso and no place to play him.&amp;nbsp; The Orioles could find him a place at first with Mark Reynolds returning to third or going to left field or even DHing.&amp;nbsp; They could also add another fringe piece like a Nolan Reimold and see if they could wedge Edinson Volquez out.&amp;nbsp; I think the Reds would be better off just making Volquez into a reliever.&amp;nbsp; I think Guthrie would be a great fit for the Reds.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Los Angeles Dodgers&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Dodgers have a good number of older pieces and high upside young players.&amp;nbsp; The only pitcher I could see meeting the Orioles' needs is Nate Eovaldi.&amp;nbsp; He profiles more as a reliever, but the Dodgers are trying to use him to spell a rotation slot.&amp;nbsp; The Orioles could take back Juan Uribe to offset cash costs, but would likely get a prospect added.&amp;nbsp; Chris Withrow would be who I would want as the added prospect.&amp;nbsp; He has been passed by other arms in the system, but has a plus breaking ball and can produce high heat.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Conclusion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With the new CBA rules, Guthrie's value is at its highest now as any team who trades for him would not be able to pull back compensation draft picks.&amp;nbsp; If he is dealt now, the receiving team will receive that protection.&amp;nbsp; That single item has a value of about 2 MM attached to it.&amp;nbsp; As much as Guthrie means to the team with his mid rotation arm, he likely has more value being dealt out to another team.&amp;nbsp; The hope is the Orioles do not sell themselves short as they may have done in the Uehara deal by chase 'now' value as opposed to seeking 'future' value.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-995665972677293837?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/995665972677293837/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=995665972677293837' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/995665972677293837'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/995665972677293837'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/12/how-much-is-jeremy-guthrie-is-worth.html' title='How Much is Jeremy Guthrie Worth?'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-8009054139187761523</id><published>2011-12-02T11:04:00.009-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-02T13:43:11.376-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='yoenis cespedes'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2011 Cup of jO&apos;s'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faleris'/><title type='text'>Cup of jO's (December 2, 2011): O's and Yoenis Cespedes</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://blogbeckett.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/6cespedes.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; WIDTH: 249px; FLOAT: right; HEIGHT: 396px; CURSOR: hand" border="0" alt="" src="http://blogbeckett.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/6cespedes.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Taking a break from the Orioles Top 25 Prospect list, this morning I wanted to give a quick write-up on Cuban outfielder Yoenis Cespedes -- the top international free agent currently on the market (technically, he will not hit the market until his residency is officially established in the Dominican Republic). Baltimore was recently linked to Cespedes by Roch Kubatko at MASN, who &lt;a href="http://www.masnsports.com/school_of_roch/2011/11/orioles-interested-in-cuban-outfielder-yoenis-cespedes.html"&gt;wrote on Wednesday&lt;/a&gt; that the O's were "interested in Cuban outfielder Yoenis Cespedes and will watch him work out in the Dominican Republic."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While Cespedes has been closely followed by international evaluators for the last five years, average baseball fans were made aware of his presence this November when his "publicity video" went viral on YouTube (a copy of the video available &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej4AP-veuF8"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;), leading to drums of e-ink being spilled by sportswriters around the net. He has been a fixture on the Cuban National Team and was rated by Baseball America as the sixth best prospect at the 2009 World Baseball Classic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Putting aside the likelihood of Cespedes electing to sign with Baltimore, is he a target Baltimore should consider? To answer that question as best we can we must look at two items: 1) his skillset and projection, and 2) his likely price.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Scouting Snippet&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I haven't seen enough of Cespedes to stand firmly behind a full evaluation -- really my exposure has been limited to video feeds and television broadcasts from international tournaments. The following is my take based on about six or seven in-game views, so assign the requisite level of weight to these thoughts. Also, be sure to crosscheck this report with whatever you can find at BaseballAmerica.com, who routinely leads the pack in coverage of international talents.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Physical Description&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Listed 5-foot-10, 200-pounds. Thick, strong, athletic build. Broad chest and wide, strong hips and trunk. Agility and explosiveness to excess. Moves very well underway; can drag out of the box.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Hitting&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Cespedes's calling card is power and he has lots and lots of it. Because of his physical strength, particularly his monster core, he does not need much load or seperation to give his barrel time to accelerate. With a basic, fairly compact swing he is able to produce enough torque to drive the ball out from pole-to-pole. He doesn't need to sell out for homeruns, but his approach in the box can noticeably falter when he gets too focused on trying to force hard contact. This isn't evident in a loss of balance, head pull, or leak, but you will see some backside collapse at times and, more often, he'll extend early and come around the ball, creating holes and some lag in the barrel. There is significant bat wrap, but he seems to overcome it with his bat speed. Raw power grades at a 65, though his in-game realization could be closer to 55 against advanced MLB arms. Hitting could be anywhere from a 40 to a 55 depending on how capable he proves at making adjustments at the Major League level.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Fielding&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Cespedes has more than enough footspeed to cover gap-to-gap in center, and shows a very good drop-step back on balls. He isn't a natural fielder, but shows comfort in the outfield. He can try to do too much at times, and could possibly benefit from pro instruction as to how to play more within his tools -- not getting overly aggressive with his throws and setting up his routes a little better. His arm is an easy 60, though his accuracy can come and go due to his set-up and arm action. I would have no issue believing his glove can grade as a 60 if told so by someone who has spent more time sitting on him, but my limited views lead me to give a more conservative 50 grade.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Summary&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Cespedes is a difficult assignment for evaluators. His physical tools are phenominal, and he has a track record of performing against high level competition (albeit inconsistent and varying talent levels from player to player) both in Cuba and through international tournaments. Still, there is a large degree of uncertainty as to how a player in his situation ultimately reacts to the change in culture, lifestyle, on-field pressure and media scrutiny when making the adjustment from life in Cuba to life as a professional baseball player in the United States.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The safest course of action is likely providing him the opportunity to spend at least half of a season at Triple-A, allowing him to adjust to the pro game outside of the national broadcasts and nightly highlight wraps that accompany MLB games. With limited looks, it is very difficult to wager a guess as to the likelihood that Cespedes is suited to make the transition to the Majors with his production intact. For purposes of this exercise, we'll slap a consertive grade report as follows:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hit: 45&lt;br /&gt;Power: 55/60&lt;br /&gt;Speed: 60&lt;br /&gt;Arm: 60&lt;br /&gt;Fielding: 45/50&lt;br /&gt;Feel: 45&lt;br /&gt;OFP: 52-56&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;*&lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/primer-scouting-scale-and-prospect.html"&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; for primer on Grades&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What we have, for purposes of this exercise, is a potential first division starting center fielder, with some risk that he will not make enough contact for his power to fully emerge at the highest level.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Price Tag&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Aroldis Chapman currently holds the record for initial contract given to a Cuban defector, with the Reds handing him a deal $30.25 million over six years. Cespedes figures to easily eclipse that contract, and is rumored to be looking for more than $60 million over six years. At 26-years old, he is entering his physical prime, with his signing Major League team getting his best years for the term of their investment. Significant interest from some potentially big spending clubs (including the Yankees, Red Sox, Tigers, Phillies and Nationals) would seem to all but ensure a big pay day for the standout Cuban outfielder -- for purposes of this exercise we will use a conservative estimate of $60 million over six years. Keep in mind that if Cespedes ends-up at Triple-A for three months, you are eating away part of the value of that first year -- in effect driving the annual price up to around $11 million a year.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Conclussion&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our "scouty" report projects Cespedes to a solid to above-average first division starter, and his upside is that of a five-tooled multiple all-star talent. A 6/60 deal for that type of player would seem to be a steal, particularly for a player entering his best four or five years of production and physicality. The sixty-million dollar question, however, is one of probability.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While evaluators can find comfort in Cespedes's successful track record in Cuba and on the international scene, it is a tall order to ask that evaluator to stake $60 million dollars, maybe more, on that production translating against the best competition in the world. Add to that an inconsistent track record for Cuban defectors and the larger issue of cultural adjustments and the ability to perform under the weight of the media scrutiny and expectations that accompany a record-setting contract, and the evaluator's task of filing a suggested price starts to more closely resemble a game of darts (skilled darts, but darts nonetheless).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ultimately, for Baltimore, the likelihood is that so long as the big spenders remain interested the price tag will be problematic when considering the risk you are taking on. Additionally, the Orioles may be looking at a situation where they are forced to overpay the market in order to convince Cespedes to turn down a better competitive and higher profile situation in New York, or perhaps a more Cubano-centric situation in a city like Miami.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cespedes is worth a long look from Baltimore, and the return on investment has a chance to be the type of "hit" that the Orioles will need to have if the organization hopes to turn things around any time soon. Unfortunately, the potential of having $10 million or so tied-up in a fringe-average regular (if things don't break right for Cespedes in his transition), in addition to the combined approximately $47.5 million owed to Roberts and Markakis over the next two seasons, and escalating prices for Baltimore's arbitration-eligible youngsters, could severely limit spending in any other areas, including extending some of the younger Birds.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Were Baltimore a more complete team at the Major League level, or a more wealthy team in terms of prospects in their system, this may be a risk worth taking. But the Birds need to focus inward on systemic changes before a high risk/high reward investment like Cespedes makes sense.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-8009054139187761523?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/8009054139187761523/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=8009054139187761523' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/8009054139187761523'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/8009054139187761523'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/12/cup-of-jos-december-2-2011-os-and.html' title='Cup of jO&apos;s (December 2, 2011): O&apos;s and Yoenis Cespedes'/><author><name>Nick J Faleris</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12413352719310759010</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-4334255992215708435</id><published>2011-11-30T12:00:00.005-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-30T15:05:51.164-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Baltimore Orioles Prospects'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faleris'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Dan klein'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 prospect rankings'/><title type='text'>2012 Top 25 Prospects: #10 Dan Klein</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:x-small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Follow us on Twitter: &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/CamdenDepot"&gt;@CamdenDepot&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Player: Dan Klein&lt;br /&gt;Position: right-handed pitcher&lt;br /&gt;Ht/Wt: 6-2/190&lt;br /&gt;B/T: R/R&lt;br /&gt;Age at 11/2011: 23y3m&lt;br /&gt;2011 level(s): Advanced-A Frederick; Double-A Bowie&lt;br /&gt;2011 statistics: &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=klein-001dan"&gt;Baseball-reference&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href="http://minorleaguecentral.com/player.php?pid=518894"&gt;Minor League Central&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Grades - Now (Future)&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Motion: 50 (50)&lt;br /&gt;Fastball: 50 (50)&lt;br /&gt;Curveball: 50 (55)&lt;br /&gt;Change: 50 (50/55)&lt;br /&gt;Slider: 40 (45)&lt;br /&gt;Control: 50 (60)&lt;br /&gt;Command: 50 (55)&lt;br /&gt;Feel: 50/55 (55)&lt;br /&gt;Overall Future Potential: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;46-52&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prospect Grade: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;B-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;*&lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/primer-scouting-scale-and-prospect.html"&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; for primer on Grades&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Background&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Drafted in the 3rd Round of the 2010 Draft, out of UCLA, and signed for almost $499,900. Multi-sport athlete in high school and national level prospect in both baseball and football. Missed sophomore year at UCLA after shoulder surgery and pitched exclusively in relief thereafter.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Physical Description&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Broad upper-body, well developed and tapered to a medium waist. Athletic build. Durable physique but history of shoulder issues. Good athleticism and body control.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Motion&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Klein utilizes a simple step-in motion, staying udner control and repeating well. He shows a quick arm with fairly easy action, though he comes close to a hard stab, dropping the ball low to his hip before entering a semi-short arm circle. There is potential for some shoulder strain with that pairing, and with his shoulder surgery in 2009, and now again in 2011, it is worth monitoring. He stays relatively quick to home, often clocking sub-1.3s on the watch.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Stuff&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Fastball&lt;/i&gt; - Klein gets good life on his fastball, running it in on righties with late action. It generally sits 91-93 mph and can come with good bore. He spots it well to each side and shows an understanding of how to use it to set-up his curve, change and slider, depending on the situation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Curve&lt;/i&gt; - a 12-to-6 breaker, Klein's curve is at its best when he throws it in the 76-78 mph range, getting solid shape and depth. He can use it as a freeze pitch but is most effective at this point when he buries it. Klein shows a high level of comfort with wthe offering, and there is enough spin to project it as a potential above-average pitch.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Change-up&lt;/i&gt; - Klein's change is generally 85-86 mph, showing drop and even some late fade. It is most effective down in the zone and he has found some success working it under the hands against lefties. The pitch was inconsistent at UCLA, turning flat and hittable up in the zone, but he has since improved his execution. A feel pitch, he will need to demonstrate his latest trip to the surgeon has not set him back.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Slider&lt;/i&gt; - The least effective of his offerings, Klein's slider is an 84-86 mph breaker with below average depth and bite. It works well as a change of pace pitch with tilt, breaking opposite his change and inducing soft contact. Like his change, when he misses the pitch it is hittable, though that doesn't stop him from getting aggressive with it. His arm speed produces plenty of spin, so reps should help the pitch reach Major League average in time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Discussion&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;2011 started about as well as it could for Klein, as he breezed through Advanced-A Frederick and Double-A Bowie with little trouble. Throwing exclusively from the pen, Klein utilized his four pitch mix effectively in posting a SO/9 rate of 10.3 and SO/BB rate of 6.17 over 32.1 innings. Unfortunately, his season ended prematurely in June due to tenderness in his shoulder. He was shut down and underwent surgery to repair a SLAP tear in his right labrum.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Regardless of Klein's timetable for return, this setback is a major blow to Baltimore's plans to transition the former UCLA closer to the rotation. Klein has yet to surpass 52 innings in a season since he did so between his high school junior spring and summer, back in 2006. He will pitch most of 2012 as a 24-year old, and it would likely be another three years before he builds up the arm strength and endurance necessary to log 150+ innings.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When healthy, Klein is essentially ready to tackle Major League hitters in a limited relief role. He lacks the putaway stuff to make him a viable shutdown arm, but his solid pitchability and stable of average or above offerings could make him an above-average reliever with 8th inning potential. His health will be the primary determinant in how Klein ultimately develops, and his setbacks in this department are the primary discounting factor in his OFP grade of 46-52.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ceiling: Late-inning reliever&lt;br /&gt;Floor: Non-prospect&lt;br /&gt;Projected: Useful middle reliever&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-4334255992215708435?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/4334255992215708435/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=4334255992215708435' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/4334255992215708435'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/4334255992215708435'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/2012-top-25-prospects-10-dan-klein.html' title='2012 Top 25 Prospects: #10 Dan Klein'/><author><name>Nick J Faleris</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12413352719310759010</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-8169617176652410339</id><published>2011-11-30T06:11:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-30T06:11:00.841-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Yu Darvish'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shepherd'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='JPL'/><title type='text'>A second look at Yu Darvish</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;A few weeks back we looked at how to translate Yu Darvish's performance in the Japanese Player's League to Major League Baseball.&amp;nbsp; That projection system put Darvish as being capable of throwing an FIP of 2.82 in a league average environment.&amp;nbsp; That is rather exceptional and seemed unrealistic.&amp;nbsp; Instead, after looking at the limited data I had at hand...I suggested that he looked more like a 3.50 FIP pitcher.&amp;nbsp; A couple issue with the translation is that it was based on three data points and those three data points were awfully successful data points with greater weight being given to the pitchers who threw more innings.&amp;nbsp; In other words, there was a bit of a survivor bias.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To make a different and potential better system, I compared that model's prediction to the actual performance of six recent transitions from JPL to MLB: Hiroki Kuroda. Dice-K, Kenshin Kawakami, Colby Lewis, Koji Uehara, and Ryota Igarashi.&amp;nbsp; These six pitchers were given equal weight in the translation.&amp;nbsp; Last time, I present the coefficients as values to divide.&amp;nbsp; This time to make things less confusing in the future, these values are to be multiplied by the JPL numbers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;Original System Coefficients&lt;br /&gt;K - 0.93&lt;br /&gt;BB - 1.81&lt;br /&gt;HR - 1.24&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;New System Coefficients&lt;br /&gt;K - 0.98&lt;br /&gt;BB - 2.6&lt;br /&gt;HR - 1.93&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;15th Percentile Coefficients&lt;br /&gt;K - 0.83&lt;br /&gt;BB - 3.34&lt;br /&gt;HR - 2.53&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;85th Percentile Coefficients&lt;br /&gt;K - 1.13&lt;br /&gt;BB - 1.83&lt;br /&gt;HR - 1.33&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the improvements here is that we now have a range that covers 70% of the possible outcomes.&amp;nbsp; Here is what Darvish's projections look like now over 200 IP:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;15th percentile - 177 K, 137 BB, 15 HR, 4.49 FIP&lt;br /&gt;50th percentile - 209 K, 106 BB, 12 HR, 3.47 FIP&lt;br /&gt;85th percentile - 240 K, 75 BB, 8 HR, 2.43 FIP&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If Darvish maintains this performance over five years, these are the following WARs and associated values he would be worth:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;15th percentile - 5.9 WAR, 29.5 MM&lt;br /&gt;50th percentile - 13.9 WAR, 69.5 MM&lt;br /&gt;85th percentile - 24 WAR, 120 MM&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It appears that my first approximation of Darvish's value may have been a bit bullish.&amp;nbsp; It was based on an aggressive projection and an aggressive assumption on contract inflation (about 10% as opposed to my normal 5% assumption).&amp;nbsp; That said, it was a pretty decent approximation of value given that I did not think long about it.&amp;nbsp; Now, I would say the a more reasonable approximation would be some a mix of 70 MM between the posting fee and a five year deal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;What will make it worth Yu Darvish's time?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Darvish made 6.6 MM last year for the Nippon Ham Fighters.&amp;nbsp; If he does not agree to a contract after this year or next, Darvish would be a free agent after the 2013 season.&amp;nbsp; If he was to stay in Japan, he could see 13 MM over the next two years and then come across the Pacific as a free agent.&amp;nbsp; If he maintains his play, he should be worth about 15 MM in the open market.&amp;nbsp; Over five years, he could earn 58 MM.&amp;nbsp; If I was his agent, I would be floating 12 MM per year as what to expect in order to sign a contract, but be willing to accept something as low as 45 MM.&amp;nbsp; There has to be some concern about getting injured in the next couple years.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Suggested move to get Darvish:&lt;br /&gt;30 MM posting fee / 5 years, 40 MM&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Likely move to get Darvish:&lt;br /&gt;50 MM posting fee / 5 years, 50 MM&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-8169617176652410339?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/8169617176652410339/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=8169617176652410339' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/8169617176652410339'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/8169617176652410339'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/second-look-at-yu-darvish.html' title='A second look at Yu Darvish'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-1638199051809072643</id><published>2011-11-29T16:00:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-29T17:04:18.106-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='clayton schrader'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Baltimore Orioles Prospects'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faleris'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 prospect rankings'/><title type='text'>2012 Top 25 Prospects: #9 Clayton Schrader</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:x-small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Follow us on Twitter: &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/CamdenDepot"&gt;@CamdenDepot&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Player: Clayton Schrader&lt;br /&gt;Position: right-handed pitcher&lt;br /&gt;Ht/Wt: 6-0/200&lt;br /&gt;B/T: L/R&lt;br /&gt;Age at 11/2011: 21y7m&lt;br /&gt;2011 level(s): Class A Delmarva; Advanced-A Frederick&lt;br /&gt;2011 statistics: &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=schrad001cla"&gt;Baseball-reference&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href="http://minorleaguecentral.com/player.php?pid=592728&amp;split=3000"&gt;Minor League Central&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Grades - Now (Future)&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Motion: 35 (40/45)&lt;br /&gt;Fastball: 50 (60)&lt;br /&gt;Slider: 45 (55/60)&lt;br /&gt;Curveball: 40 (45/50)&lt;br /&gt;Change: Not scouted&lt;br /&gt;Control: 25/30 (40)&lt;br /&gt;Command: 20/25 (35/40)&lt;br /&gt;Feel: 35/40 (45/50)&lt;br /&gt;Overall Future Potential: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;46-52&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prospect Grade: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;B-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;*&lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/primer-scouting-scale-and-prospect.html"&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; for primer on Grades&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Background&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Drafted in the 10th Round of the 2010 Draft, out of San Jacinto College(Texas), and signed for overslot bonus of $300,000. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Physical Description&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Broad build, wide hips. Strong, especially in core and trunk. Some room to firm up physique and improve conditioning.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Motion&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Schrader throws from an elevated three-quarters arm slot and matches it well with his fastball and breaking balls. Because he doesn't pair the slot with a corresponding tilt, there is some concern for future shoulder injury (though that is off course dependent on the structural specifics of his joint). His delivery, which produces mid-90s velocity, comes with a lot of effort, including a rigid landing and extreme head whack and arm recoil to finish. The result is well below average control and a limited number of pitches in his arm per appearance. While he will be able to smooth out his landing some, much of his mechanics "are what they are," and Baltimore will likely take the good (loud stuff) with the bad (control and limited profile).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Stuff&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Fastball&lt;/i&gt; - Big plus offering that runs low- to mid-90s with some life. Schrader will spray the strikezone with the pitch, but has little command to spots.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Slider&lt;/i&gt; - Mid-80s offering with hard bite and tilt. Arm slot deception and true swing-and-miss ability. Potential plus offering down the line.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Curve&lt;/i&gt; - Downer 78 to 82 mph offering utilized more at San Jacinto than in 2011. Serves as a useful counter to his harder offerings due to velocity delta.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Change-up&lt;/i&gt; - Not scouted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Discussion&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;"Clay Shray" is a big arm with big control issues at present, though a slightly softer landing can help him keep his momentum more consistently to home and prevent some off his swing-around. While his arm angle raises some potential red flags from a biomechanical standpoint, it helps him to create a solid downhill plane, even with his listed 6-foot frame. He does an adequate job of hitting his slot consistently and just needs to find a way to stay in the zone with a little more frequency.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While the walk rate is the critique most likely to be touched upon in internet reports, he should be able to survive with 4+ BB/9 at the Major League level due to his ability to minimize baserunning threats by missing bats. That said, he will walk hitters and, like Fernando Rodney, may actually fit better in the closer role than as a 7th or 8th inning arm. This would allow him to enter the majority of his games with clean bases and would help to minimize the potential damage resulting from his inevitable base-on-balls.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps most important, Baltimore will need Schrader to work on his endurance. While the effort in his delivery causes control issues, the drain on his energy is perhaps more impactful. He is noticeably less effective the more pitches he hangs on his arm per appearance, and as a result Baltimore endeavored to keep him from appearing on back-to-back days. Double-A Bowie will represent his first true pro challenge and will help to ground his projection. If he is able to maintain his power stuff on back-to-back days, and can clean-up his mechanics enough to get his BB/9 down between 4 and 5, he could be a useful bullpen piece in Baltimore as early as the second half of next year. He has the upside profile of a Jorge Julio. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ceiling: Late-inning reliever&lt;br /&gt;Floor: Non-prospect&lt;br /&gt;Projected: Useful middle reliever&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-1638199051809072643?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/1638199051809072643/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=1638199051809072643' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/1638199051809072643'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/1638199051809072643'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/2012-top-25-prospects-9-clayton.html' title='2012 Top 25 Prospects: #9 Clayton Schrader'/><author><name>Nick J Faleris</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12413352719310759010</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-5344427983365050463</id><published>2011-11-29T11:30:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-29T12:32:01.859-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='jason esposito'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Baltimore Orioles Prospects'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faleris'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 prospect rankings'/><title type='text'>2012 Top 25 Prospects: #8 Jason Esposito</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:x-small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Follow us on Twitter: &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/CamdenDepot"&gt;@CamdenDepot&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Player: Jason Esposito&lt;br /&gt;Position: third base&lt;br /&gt;Ht/Wt: 6-2/205&lt;br /&gt;B/T: R/R&lt;br /&gt;Age at 11/2011: 21y4m&lt;br /&gt;2011 level(s): N/A&lt;br /&gt;2011 statistics: N/A&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Grades - Now (Future)&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Hit: 35 (40/45)&lt;br /&gt;Power: 40 (45/50)&lt;br /&gt;Arm: 60 (60)&lt;br /&gt;Defense: 55 (65)&lt;br /&gt;Speed: 45 (40)&lt;br /&gt;Feel: 50 (50/55)&lt;br /&gt;Overall Future Potential: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;46-52&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prospect Grade: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;B-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;*&lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/primer-scouting-scale-and-prospect.html"&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; for primer on Grades&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Background&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;2nd Round selection in the 2011 draft, out of Vanderbilt University. Signed for overslot bonus of $600,000. Previously drafted and unsigned in 2008 by Kansas City.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Physical Description&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Solid, athletic build. Wide hips with strong trunk and core. Pro body with little projection left, but should be able to tighten physique as he finishes maturing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Hitting&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Espo takes with him to the plate a solid approach, including a good feel for the strikezone. His swing is compact and he covers the quadrants fairly well. There is enough strength in his wrists to allow him to transfer power from his core to the bat, and he shows that pop by producing hard contact from pole-to-pole. Esposito's bat speed is the primary chink in his armor, and he has struggled mightily when armed with lumber against more advanced competition on the Cape and with Team USA. An issue tangential to his bat speed is pitch-ID. Because he needs to start his swing early to catch-up with better velocity, good off-speed offerings can give him trouble. Additionally, he utilizes a medium-high leg kick in his stride, which cuts into his ability to adjust his timing on the fly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Defense&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Esposito shows easy footwork and soft hands straight on, though his lower-half can drag some on the move. This makes third base the best fit for him, and the former Vandy infielder has enough arm to man the hot corner at the Major League level. There is enough athleticism in Espo's game to allow him to hold down second base if so required, and he could even play a passable shortstop in an emergency (though extended exposure there would like prove his range and footwork to be lacking at the outer reaches of his zone). He is a below-average runner but moves well enough to cover an outfielder corner, completing his profile as a potential utility talent. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Discussion&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Esposito was a highly touted high schooler and a high follow entering his junior year at Vanderbilt in spite of back-to-back uninspiring summers on the Cape and a half-summer with USA Baseball's Collegiate National Team. His stock took a hit when his spotty offensive performance with the new BBCOR bats (which have a smaller sweetspot and less trampoline than the previous composite bats) forced evaluators to consider more strongly his average bat speed, and whether his impressive sophomore year with the 'Dores would eventually resurface in pro ball.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Despite the questions surrounding his offensive game, Esposito boasts a reasonably high floor off the strength of his glove. He can get a little clunky when forced to operate on the move and at the edge of his range, but could be a true standout defender if allowed to focus his efforts at third base. His pivots and footwork around the bag are solid, and his hands and approach will allow him to provide value at second base, as well as shortstop in a limited capacity, should Baltimore need him to log innings across the infield.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Esposito's well documented struggles to perform with wood, as well as the not-insignificant decrease in OBP (.453 to .403), SLG (.599 to .530), and BB/SO rate (0.97 to 0.38) from his sophomore to junior year, all raise questions about whether or not he will hit enough at the upper-levels to justify an everyday spot on a first division team. The glove could be double-plus quality at third, but he will need to find a way to barrel more off-speed pitches. He has enough raw power that he could be a 15-20 homerun bat if he squares-up enough balls.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ceiling: Average third baseman on first division team&lt;br /&gt;Floor: Four-A placeholder or injury insurance&lt;br /&gt;Projected: Utility infielder/outfielder&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-5344427983365050463?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/5344427983365050463/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=5344427983365050463' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/5344427983365050463'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/5344427983365050463'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/2012-top-25-prospects-8-jason-esposito.html' title='2012 Top 25 Prospects: #8 Jason Esposito'/><author><name>Nick J Faleris</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12413352719310759010</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-7920761023884496348</id><published>2011-11-28T05:57:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-28T05:57:00.405-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Payroll'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shepherd'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Revenue Sharing'/><title type='text'>The Orioles are a Small Market Team</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://cdn1.newsone.com/files/2010/06/Baltimore.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="220" src="http://cdn1.newsone.com/files/2010/06/Baltimore.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;That title probably brought a number of you here to read this column and tell me how I am wrong.&amp;nbsp; Not only wrong, I imagine some of you might call me blinded by Dan Duquette's words over the past few weeks that suggest he considers the team a small market ballclub (&lt;i&gt;"I learned in a small market, I applied my skills in a small market, to put together a top-quality team"&lt;/i&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mind you, I did not &lt;i&gt;feel&lt;/i&gt; that Baltimore was a small market town.&amp;nbsp; I have always bought into the idea of the Orioles being a sleeping baseball giant as Peter Gammons used to say.&amp;nbsp; However, my own personal journey challenging that thought emerged as I began as I began traveling around to other cities.&amp;nbsp; I began to realize how small Baltimore is and how much of the city is probably not all that interested in baseball or inclined to spend money on it.&amp;nbsp; Add that to some of the money from corporations, perhaps, being siphoned off to the Nationals who are trying hard to be a well liked team (to varying success).&amp;nbsp; At this point, I became comfortable with Baltimore being a mid-market town, which made sense with respect to information available on how money is dispersed in Major League Baseball.&amp;nbsp; However, they calculate these things, the Orioles (in the few years available) were right in the middle neither giving or receiving much of anything. &amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Recently, Dan Duquette referred to the Orioles as a small market team in being introduced to the fan base and in several interviews thereafter.&amp;nbsp; Are these valid statements?&amp;nbsp; Have we been in a situation akin to the frog that sit in a pot of water slowly coming to boil?&amp;nbsp; Do we not realize we are being boiled...or fading as a city of importance.&amp;nbsp; It would seem to fit the motif of an old port and steel city that is being marginalized by outsourcing of materials and a trade deficit.&amp;nbsp; It is also something that was harped on with &lt;i&gt;the Wire&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My methodology was simple.&amp;nbsp; I consulted four sources:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;TV Market Size (&lt;a href="http://www.sportstvjobs.com/resources/local-tv-market-sizes-dma.html"&gt;Nielsen estimates, August 2011&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Radio Market Size (&lt;a href="http://www.arbitron.com/home/mm001050.asp"&gt;Arbitron Estimates, Fall 2011&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Population (&lt;a href="http://factfinder2.census.gov/faces/nav/jsf/pages/index.xhtml"&gt;2010 US Census&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Gross Domestic Product (&lt;a href="http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/regional/gdp_metro/gdp_metro_newsrelease.htm"&gt;2007-2009 Data, Dept of Commerce&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;AL East Rankings &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Baltimore&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;TV Market Rank: 27th&lt;br /&gt;Radio Market Rank: 21st&lt;br /&gt;Population Rank: 21st&lt;br /&gt;GDP Rank: 19th&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Boston&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;TV Market Rank: 7th&lt;br /&gt;Radio Market Rank: 10th&lt;br /&gt;Population Rank: 22nd&lt;br /&gt;GDP Rank: 9th&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;New York&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;TV Market Rank: 1st&lt;br /&gt;Radio Market Rank: 1st&lt;br /&gt;Population Rank: 1st&lt;br /&gt;GDP Rank: 1st&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Tampa&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;TV Market Rank: 14th&lt;br /&gt;Radio Market Rank: 19th&lt;br /&gt;Population Rank: 55th&lt;br /&gt;GDP Rank: 23rd&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Toronto&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(not in United States, so we have to use different sources)&lt;br /&gt;TV Market Rank: Between 4th ranked Philadelphia and 5th ranked Dallas&lt;br /&gt;Radio Market Rank: Between 14th ranked Seattle and 15th ranked Pheonix&lt;br /&gt;Population Rank: Between 3rd ranked Chicago and 4th ranked Houston&lt;br /&gt;GDP Rank: Between 11th ranked Miami and 12th ranked Seattle&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Conclusion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; &lt;br /&gt;The data tends to indicate that the Orioles are likely a low mid-market team or a high small market team.&amp;nbsp; Camden Yards, a greater population, and a history probably helps the Orioles sustain a higher revenue than the Rays have.&amp;nbsp; It also helps that the Orioles' regional market deal helps them siphon cash away from the potential gold mine of the Washington DC market.&amp;nbsp; Of course, DC has had issues with properly supporting the team.&amp;nbsp; The last time a DC team was dominant was probably back in the late 1860s and early 1870s when the Treasury Department bankrolled the team.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Back to Baltimore, we might have to get use to the idea that this team cannot spend as much money as teams in Arlington or Boston.&amp;nbsp; The Orioles are at a competitive disadvantage and it makes it difficult for the team to succeed.&amp;nbsp; It requires a top notch front office that is efficient with how it invests its money and that has not been the MO of the team over the past couple decades (or ever?).&amp;nbsp; Even the great teams of the 60s and 70s were built on a foundation of out spending teams for bonus babies prior to the implementation of the draft.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Orioles were big spenders back in the day, so how did their population size compare back then?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hHASttrL_oc/Ts5jmKmVGcI/AAAAAAAAAno/Tp-p8ezv8Fs/s1600/Baltimore+Population.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="300" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hHASttrL_oc/Ts5jmKmVGcI/AAAAAAAAAno/Tp-p8ezv8Fs/s400/Baltimore+Population.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;Baltimore does appear to have stabilized in population and one hopes the same is true about the amount of money the team is able to take in from the surrounding area.&amp;nbsp; During the 1990s Baltimore began successfully (to a degree) shifting from blue collar to white collar commerce and production.&amp;nbsp; The city is still well behind New York, Boston, and Toronto in terms of available money coming from media deals.&amp;nbsp; I boiled it down to two things: (1) the Orioles are a threshold middle/small market team and (2) they are in a worst potential revenue market than three of the five teams in the AL East.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-7920761023884496348?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/7920761023884496348/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=7920761023884496348' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/7920761023884496348'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/7920761023884496348'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/orioles-are-small-market-team.html' title='The Orioles are a Small Market Team'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hHASttrL_oc/Ts5jmKmVGcI/AAAAAAAAAno/Tp-p8ezv8Fs/s72-c/Baltimore+Population.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-2071910708864431894</id><published>2011-11-25T13:30:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-25T14:28:07.893-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Baltimore Orioles Prospects'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='parker bridwell'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faleris'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 prospect rankings'/><title type='text'>2012 Top 25 Prospects: #7 Parker Bridwell</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:x-small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Follow us on Twitter: &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/CamdenDepot"&gt;@CamdenDepot&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Player: Parker Bridwell&lt;br /&gt;Position: right-handed pitcher&lt;br /&gt;Ht/Wt: 6-4/190&lt;br /&gt;B/T: R/R&lt;br /&gt;Age at 11/2011: 20y3m&lt;br /&gt;2011 level(s): SS-A Aberdeen; Class A Delmarva&lt;br /&gt;2011 statistics: &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=bridwe001par"&gt;Baseball-reference&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href="http://minorleaguecentral.com/player.php?pid=592170"&gt;Minor League Central&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Grades - Now (Future)&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Motion: 40/45 (50)&lt;br /&gt;Fastball: 50 (55/60)&lt;br /&gt;Slider/Cutter: 45 (55)&lt;br /&gt;Curveball: 40 (45/50)&lt;br /&gt;Change: 40 (50)&lt;br /&gt;Control: 40 (45/50)&lt;br /&gt;Command: 35/40 (45/50)&lt;br /&gt;Feel: 40 (50)&lt;br /&gt;Overall Future Potential: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;47-53&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prospect Grade: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;B&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;*&lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/primer-scouting-scale-and-prospect.html"&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; for primer on Grades&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Background&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Drafted in the 9th Round of the 2010 Draft, out of Hereford High School (Hereford, Texas), and signed for overslot bonus of $625,000. Multi-sport athlete in high school and national level prospect in both baseball and football.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Physical Description&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Long, athletic build with projection. Broad shoulders to wide hips with medium-high waist. Long limbs; solid body control.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Motion&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Bridwell begins with a simple step-in to his motion. He is long on the backside and there are some checkpoints that could point to periodic stress on the ulnar collateral ligament, though that is highly dependent on the specifics of his elbow structure. Bridwell throws from a three-quarters slot with some cross-fire and first base falloff. While Bridwell is an excellent athlete, he is still working to rein in his long limbs and make uniform his mechanics. His stride length varies, which combines with his long arm action to throw off his release point and, in turn, both his control and consistency in his secondaries (his curve, in particular). He is relatively quick to home, considering his size, but needs to vary his pacing in order to prevent runners from timing him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Stuff&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Fastball&lt;/i&gt; - Heavy 90-92 sinker that bumped to the mid-90s at various points this summer. When he drives the pitch down in the zone he induces a lot of soft contact -- a trend that should continue through the lower levels. He will need to improve his command of the offering, as more discerning bats will learn to lay off the pitch as it bores.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Slider/Cutter&lt;/i&gt; - Good arm slot deception and late cut when he snaps off a good one. Good pairing with his sinker and makes it very difficult for batters to barrel balls when Bridwell has both offerings working.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Curve&lt;/i&gt; - Arm generates heavy spin and there is a potential for this to develop into an above-average pitch, as well, if he can find consistency in his release. 11-to-5 action and will flash big depth. 10-13 mph velocity delta and ability to hit his fastball arm slot also makes the pitch a viable off-speed offering.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Change-up&lt;/i&gt; - The rawest of his arsenal, Bridwell's change-up is better than the rudimentary version on display prior to being drafted. It is a feel pitch that will require continued reps, but he has shown enough growth to project it to average.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Discussion&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Bridwell's biggest challenge will be finding consistency in his stride and uniformity in his arm action. If he can improve in those departments, he is well suited to develop into a workhorse starter with a couple of above-average to plus offerings. It is unlikely he will ever be surgical with his pitches, but so long as he can spot his heavy fastball and slider he should be able to manage his pitch counts through soft contact.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is also some ceiling here. With big arm strength and noticeable progress already being made with his change-up, Bridwell has the upside of a #3 starter. While his command may limit his ability to reach that upside, Bridwell is still young with plenty of time to smooth out the kinks. He struggled in his first taste of full season ball this past summer, but rebounded impressively at Aberdeen, where he threw with visably more confidence and comfort.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If command or a useful third pitch prove problematic long term, Bridwell could be well suited to step into a relief role as an 8th inning arm or closer. He will continue to add strength over the coming years, making it possible to project fringe plus-plus velocity for the Texan once matured and throwing in shorter stints. The thought of a durable power arm with a grounder-inducing sinker/slider combo, however, should keep him in a rotation as long as he continues to develop. He will likely tackle Delmarava in 2012 with a half-season in Advanced-A Frederick if things break right.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ceiling: #2/#3 starter on first division team&lt;br /&gt;Floor: Non-prospect&lt;br /&gt;Projected: #4 starter on first division team or late-inning arm&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-2071910708864431894?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/2071910708864431894/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=2071910708864431894' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/2071910708864431894'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/2071910708864431894'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/2012-top-25-prospects-7-parker-bridwell.html' title='2012 Top 25 Prospects: #7 Parker Bridwell'/><author><name>Nick J Faleris</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12413352719310759010</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-938334883346309541</id><published>2011-11-24T11:17:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-24T11:20:28.966-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shepherd'/><title type='text'>Happy Thanksgiving from the Depot</title><content type='html'>One thing I am thankful for is this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.baltimoreorless.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Our-Orioles-March.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://www.baltimoreorless.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Our-Orioles-March.jpg" width="496" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://waltercosand.com/CosandScores/Composers%20Q-Z/Stults,%20Robert%20Morrison/Our_Orioles-March.pdf"&gt;Music&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Our-Orioles-Two-Step-March-Instrumental/dp/B003O3RZ08"&gt;Download it for 99 cents&lt;/a&gt; (No, we do not get a kickback for this. Enjoy)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-938334883346309541?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/938334883346309541/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=938334883346309541' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/938334883346309541'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/938334883346309541'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/happy-thanksgiving-from-depot.html' title='Happy Thanksgiving from the Depot'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-6039655721327209135</id><published>2011-11-22T12:30:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-22T14:06:29.377-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Baltimore Orioles Prospects'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faleris'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 prospect rankings'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nicky Delmonico'/><title type='text'>2012 Top 25 Prospects: #6 Nicky Delmonico</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:x-small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Follow us on Twitter: &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/CamdenDepot"&gt;@CamdenDepot&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Player: Nicky Delmonico&lt;br /&gt;Position: third base/first base&lt;br /&gt;Ht/Wt: 6-2/200&lt;br /&gt;B/T: L/R&lt;br /&gt;Age at 11/2011: 19y4m&lt;br /&gt;2011 level(s): N/A&lt;br /&gt;2011 statistics: N/A&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Grades - Now (Future)&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Hit: 35 (50)&lt;br /&gt;Power: 35 (55/60)&lt;br /&gt;Arm: 40/45 (45)&lt;br /&gt;Defense: 35/40 (45/50)&lt;br /&gt;Speed: 40/45 (40)&lt;br /&gt;Feel: 40/45 (50/55)&lt;br /&gt;Overall Future Potential: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;47-53&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prospect Grade: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;B&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;*&lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/primer-scouting-scale-and-prospect.html"&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; for primer on Grades&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Background&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;6th Round selection in the 2011 draft, out of Farragut HS (Knoxville, Tenn.). Signed for mid-1st Round money, receiving a $1,525,000. Heavy bloodlines;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Physical Description&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Strong, thick build. Broad shoulders and wide through hips with muscular core and trunk. Lacks projection but athletic and already looks the part. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Hitting&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;When everything clicks, Delmonico shows an easy swing and generates good leverage and power. He takes an impressive BP and is capable of spraying balls from line-to-line. In-game, he shows a good approach for a prep talent, though he has yet to be challenged by advanced stuff on a day-to-day basis. On good days Delmonico shows balance and good whip in his barrel. On bad days, he creates too much length in his load, gets uphill with his swing plane and can extend early causing some drag in his barrel. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Defense&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Delmonico spent his scouting circuit summer and senior spring behind the plate, but consistently struggled with his transfer, footwork and throws. Mechanics aside, Delmonico's throws show consistent bow and it is far from certain that he will have enough arm strength to make all the throws from the hot corner -- his announced position on draft day. Additionally, Delmonico's lower-half could give him trouble in the infield, though his hands should play well at either of the corners. Defense is an area that can develop quickly under pro instruction and a full-time baseball schedule yielding plenty of reps. He should get a couple of seasons to knock around the infield while Baltimore determines if there is a long-term fit at third. If not, his future success will ride entirely on the development of his bat.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Discussion&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Delmonico represents a significant draft investment, netting the largest ever bonus paid by the Orioles outside of the 1st Round. There is big offensive upside that could come by way of a solid average defensive third baseman, but that tantalizing package is spotted with risk. Delmonico has not been able to produce in-game showings indicative of his natural talent on a consistent basis since the first half of the summer before his senior year of high school, and it is worth considering whether his bonus will serve as a relieving influence on his game or added pressure to produce.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With the skillset to grow into a legit .285/.360/.525 bat, Delmonico could provide an impressive compliment to the Machado/Schoop pairing scheduled to reach Baltimore at some point in 2013 or 2014. Given his background, the expectation should be that his transition to the pro ball lifestyle should be a smooth one, though concerns over his uneven results under the draft scrutiny of his senior year have some evaluators convinced that Delmonico would be better off easing into his first pro season in extended spring training. He'll turn 20 next July, so there is some sense of urgency to get him going.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Were Delmonico a year younger or a better bet to stick at third base, he could easily have snuck into the Supplemental-1st Round, even with his rocky spring. But there are a number of potential pitfalls facing the Tennessee native and, given his limited defensive profile, an immense amount of pressure on both his hit and power tools developing into impact weapons. Outside of Dylan Bundy, he may have the highest ceiling in the 2011 draft class -- albeit with a weighty boom/bust profile.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ceiling: Above-average third baseman on first division team&lt;br /&gt;Floor: Non-prospect&lt;br /&gt;Projected: Fringe-average first baseman on second division team&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-6039655721327209135?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/6039655721327209135/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=6039655721327209135' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/6039655721327209135'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/6039655721327209135'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/2012-top-25-prospects-6-nicky-delmonico.html' title='2012 Top 25 Prospects: #6 Nicky Delmonico'/><author><name>Nick J Faleris</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12413352719310759010</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-938557387010140354</id><published>2011-11-21T16:30:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-21T17:36:56.428-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='L.J. Hoes'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Baltimore Orioles Prospects'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faleris'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 prospect rankings'/><title type='text'>2012 Top 25 Prospects: #5 L.J. Hoes</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:x-small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Follow us on Twitter: &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/CamdenDepot"&gt;@CamdenDepot&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Player: L.J. Hoes&lt;br /&gt;Position: left field/second base&lt;br /&gt;Ht/Wt: 6-1/185&lt;br /&gt;B/T: R/R&lt;br /&gt;Age at 11/2011: 21y8m&lt;br /&gt;2011 level(s): Advanced-A Frederick; Double-A Bowie&lt;br /&gt;2011 statistics: &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=hoes--001jer"&gt;Baseball-reference&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href="http://minorleaguecentral.com/player.php?pid=543321"&gt;Minor League Central&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Grades - Now (Future)&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Hit: 40/45 (55/60)&lt;br /&gt;Power: 40 (45/50)&lt;br /&gt;Arm: 50 (50)&lt;br /&gt;Defense: 45 (50)&lt;br /&gt;Speed: 50 (50)&lt;br /&gt;Feel: 45 (50)&lt;br /&gt;Overall Future Potential: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;48-54&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prospect Grade: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;B&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;*&lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/primer-scouting-scale-and-prospect.html"&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; for primer on Grades&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Background&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;3rd Round selection in the 2008 Draft, drafted out of St. John's College HS (Chevy Chase, Md.).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Physical Description&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Medium frame but bloodlines and body type to project some strength. Solid athlete, though lower-half can drag at times. Average runner.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Hitting&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Hoes is a natural hitter, utilizing good balance, quick hands and a compact swing. Already in possession of a strong core, Hoes continues to firm-up his physique and could be capable of fringe-average to average power in the future, with 2012 standing out as a potential "jump" year in power production (setting aside the pitching-friendly confines of Norfolk). The only real knocks that prevent him from projecting to a true plus hit tool are some tendencies for defensive at bats and an inability to consistently match swing plane to pitch plane. He can improve in both areas, but even if he doesn't he should make plenty of contact, work walks and hit for enough pop to keep pitchers honest.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Defense&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Hoes was shifted out to left field upon arriving at Bowie. While Baltimore staff has indicated that they still view second base as a viable option for him, he will project as an outfielder until the organization decides to commit time to him at second base. A center fielder as an amateur, Hoes could provide average or a tick above-average defense in left, with enough footspeed to cover the gap, an adequate arm and solid feel. Further, he is worth at least a look in center field come March.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Discussion&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;While the overall ceiling is lower, Hoes' hit tool may rank with Machado and Schoop. He shows easy command of the strikezone and the high level of comfort in the box that often belies a successful Major Leaguer. While a shift to a corner position traditionally puts more evaluative emphasis on the power tool, Hoes could get on base enough to provide solid value without hitting 20+ homeruns a year. That notwithstanding, the developing strength in Hoes' core and hands combined with his ability to discern pitches to drive could help him to realize a jump in power production as early as next summer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Defensively, Hoes would clearly be more valuable as an up-the-middle glove. If the switch to left field proves permanent, however, he could still be capable of providing solid defense out of the seven-spot. Aside from the additional pressure on the bat, Hoes may need to do the little things on the bases to ensure that the total value package adds up to starter-quality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hoes will likely get knocked by a number of prospectors due to the position switch, but he so long as he continues to hit he will continue to get the benefit of the doubt here. 2012 should show whether the organization is interested in returning to the experiment with second base, or if Hoes is in left field to stay. To the extent he is stuck in the corner, he will look to prove he has enough pop to keep Triple-A and Major League arms honest, and that his success at Bowie wasn't simply a product of his .354 BABIP. With minimal growth, you can squint and see a Gerardo Parra-esque profile.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ceiling: Average left fielder on first division team&lt;br /&gt;Floor: 4th or 5th outfielder; bench bat&lt;br /&gt;Projected: Fringe-average left fielder on second division team&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-938557387010140354?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/938557387010140354/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=938557387010140354' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/938557387010140354'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/938557387010140354'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/2012-top-25-prospects-5-lj-hoes.html' title='2012 Top 25 Prospects: #5 L.J. Hoes'/><author><name>Nick J Faleris</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12413352719310759010</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-8881532125361638656</id><published>2011-11-21T10:15:00.005-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-21T11:42:20.666-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='bobby bundy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Baltimore Orioles Prospects'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faleris'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 prospect rankings'/><title type='text'>2012 Top 25 Prospects: #4 Bobby Bundy (rhp)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:x-small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Follow us on Twitter: &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/CamdenDepot"&gt;@CamdenDepot&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Player: Robert "Bobby" Bundy&lt;br /&gt;Position: right-handed pitcher&lt;br /&gt;Ht/Wt: 6-2/215&lt;br /&gt;B/T: R/R&lt;br /&gt;Age at 11/2011: 21y11m&lt;br /&gt;2011 level(s): Advanced-A Frederick; Double-A Bowie&lt;br /&gt;2011 statistics: &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=bundy-002rob"&gt;Baseball-reference&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href="http://minorleaguecentral.com/player.php?pid=542989"&gt;Minor League Central&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Grades - Now (Future)&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Motion: 45/50 (55)&lt;br /&gt;Fastball: 45/50 (55)&lt;br /&gt;Curveball: 40/45 (55/60)&lt;br /&gt;Slider: 40/45 (50)&lt;br /&gt;Change: 35/40 (50)&lt;br /&gt;Control: 45/50 (50/55)&lt;br /&gt;Command: 35/40 (50)&lt;br /&gt;Feel: 40 (50)&lt;br /&gt;Overall Future Potential: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;51-56&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prospect Grade: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;B&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;*&lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/primer-scouting-scale-and-prospect.html"&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; for primer on Grades&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Background&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Drafted in the 8th Round of the 2008 Draft, out of Sperry High School (Sperry, Okla.), and signed for overslot bonus of $600,000. Top 100 talent that dropped in the draft in large part due to knee injury during basketball season. Played his senior year with younger brother Dylan Bundy(rhp), who subsquently transfered to Owasso HS (Owasso, Okla.) and was the fourth overall selection in the 2011 Draft, also by Baltimore. Bobby spent 2011 as a starter for the Frederick Keys (Advanced-A, Baltimore system) before finishing the season at Bowie (Double-A, Baltimore system).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Physical Description&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Strong, workhorse build on broad, athletic frame. Thick throughout, with even distribution. Solid athleticism and body control. Moves reasonably well off of mound.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Motion&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Long arm action on the backside creates an inconsistent launch point as Bundy begins to rotate through. It is possible this could be addressed through utilization of a straight drop arm to begin his arm circle, as opposed to his current approach of swinging into it. In any event, it is an issue that development staff will likely address. The rest of his mechanics are generally uniform and repeatable, with a smooth plant and follow. The result is solid control but an inability to consistently hit his spots within the zone. His three-quarters slot works well for all four of his offerings, and there is obvious athleticism in his actions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Stuff&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Fastball&lt;/i&gt; - Upper-80s to low-90s heavy heater that can run in to righties, as well. Will flatten up in the zone some, and Bundy isn't as precise with the pitch as he will need to be in order to reach his mid-rotation ceiling.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Curve&lt;/i&gt; - Power breaker that will flash plus on a 12-to-6 trajectory, but can grade as low as below-average when he loses his release. The inconsistencies in this pitch are likely a direct result of his varying launch points.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Slider&lt;/i&gt; - Like his curve, Bundy's slider is plagued by inconsistencies due to his issues with repeating his release point. At it's best, it can be an average to slightly above-average pitch right now and pairs well with his sinking fastball when he is able to keep it down in the zone.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Change-up&lt;/i&gt; - While Bundy has grown his offspeed since his high school days, it still remains the weakest of his offerings and leaves him without a suitable weapon for handling lefties.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Discussion&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Bundy has made steady progress through the Orioles system, and 2011 served as a breakout year for the righty from a production standpoint. A likely unsustainably low BABIP against left-handed hitters (.267 against lefties; .313 against righties) kept his left/right splits more balanced than they should have been. Even then, lefites out OPSed righties to tune of the following slash lines: .221/.313/.392/.705 against lefties; .263/.317/.375/.692 against righties. Perhaps most telling, Bundy's SO/BB ratio against lefties (1.81) is less than half of that against righties (4.27).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The good news is that Bundy's issues appear to be fairly easy to identify. In order for his command in the zone to increase, and the consistency of his secondaries to increase, Bundy will need to find a way to hit is backside checkpoints more consistently. The second glaring weakness is his lack of a consistent weapon with which to attack lefties. His change-up is improving, and provided he is able to clean-up the backside of his arm action some, he should have little trouble growing it into at least an average offering. Further, improved command and execution of his secondaries will lead to more missed bats, as it will lead to fewer spots missed and more frequent effective showings of his power curve and slider.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a 21-year old in Advanced-A ball, Bundy put together a very strong year. As encouraging as his final stat line was, the fact that he cruised through the season with very few issues until his late season promotion to Bowie is cause for great optimism. The only real hiccup was his June, which included five starts and an FIP of over 5 (as opposed to his April, May and July of 1.36, 3.59 and 3.11, respectively). He reached 136 innings pitched in 2011 and is poised to break the 150 innings threshold in 2012. He projects as a durable 200-plus innings eater with a chance for two above-average pitches and four usable Major League offerings. If his command and his secondaries do not improve over the next two seasons, he still has value as a swing man or a middle-reliever that could bump the mid-90s in shorter stints.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ceiling: #3 starter on first division team&lt;br /&gt;Floor: Middle-reliever/swingman&lt;br /&gt;Projected: #4 starter on first division team&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-8881532125361638656?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/8881532125361638656/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=8881532125361638656' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/8881532125361638656'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/8881532125361638656'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/2012-top-25-prospects-4-bobby-bundy-rhp.html' title='2012 Top 25 Prospects: #4 Bobby Bundy (rhp)'/><author><name>Nick J Faleris</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12413352719310759010</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-1339242607830375749</id><published>2011-11-20T13:17:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-20T13:17:07.692-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shepherd'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2011 Rule 5'/><title type='text'>Oriole Rule 5 Target: Thomas Pham</title><content type='html'>&lt;table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: right; margin-left: 1em; text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://workplacepossibilities.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Needle-In-A-Haystack-380.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://workplacepossibilities.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Needle-In-A-Haystack-380.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Lots of hay in the Rule 5&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Yes, I am going to waste your time.&amp;nbsp; I am going to write about a player who is eligible for the Rule 5 draft.&amp;nbsp; There is a type of player who might be the best to focus on.&amp;nbsp; That type is the player who was injured the year before.&amp;nbsp; In the previous column, I mentioned Cody Satterwhite and his labrum tear that limited him to ten innings last year as he rehabbed in rookie ball.&amp;nbsp; Another player who was limited was the 23 year old Cardinals' center fielder Thomas Pham.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In 2006, Thomas Pham was a name everyone knew coming out of high school in Las Vegas.&amp;nbsp; His Baseball America &lt;a href="http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/draft/drrpt/?y=2006&amp;amp;pl_id=37513&amp;amp;phs=junreg"&gt;scouting report&lt;/a&gt; at the time mentions him as a prospect who could be seen as either an infielder or a pitcher.&amp;nbsp; He threw in the low 90s and flashed a plus slider.&amp;nbsp; He was seen more as an offensive hitter, drawing comparisons to Scott Hairston.&amp;nbsp; He hit the ball solidly and used his plus speed on the base paths.&amp;nbsp; Baseball America's assumption was that he would go sometime in the top five rounds and be overslotted.&amp;nbsp; However, there were some doubts about his maturity.&amp;nbsp; Pham was considered lackadaisical on defense and walked back on a commitment to Arizona State.&amp;nbsp; In the end, Pham was selected by the St. Louis Cardinals in the 16th round and signed for 325k (roughly 3rd/4th round money).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Cardinals tried him out at shortstop, but that last only for rookie ball.&amp;nbsp; For 2007 and onward, Pham was positioned almost exclusively in center field.&amp;nbsp; By all accounts, he did not take naturally to the position, but has improved with time.&amp;nbsp; His plus speed and a better understanding of route running has made him passable in center field.&amp;nbsp; His plus arm helped him record an assist once every 7 games last year.&amp;nbsp; He would not look pretty in the majors in center field, but those two attributes should be passable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pham also had difficulty showing himself to be a bat first prospect.&amp;nbsp; He struggled with the Mendoza Line in rookie ball, low A, A, and high A ball.&amp;nbsp; In his second pass through A ball in Quad Cities, he mashed 17 home runs in 346 plate appearances as a 20 year old.&amp;nbsp; However, he batted .218 and struck out 36% of the time.&amp;nbsp; The Cardinals kept pushing him up the ladder though and everything seemed to click performance-wise in AA.&amp;nbsp; His K rate dropped to 22% over 2010 and 2011 which works nicely with a maintained walk rate of about 11%.&amp;nbsp; His AA line has been 314/398/527.&amp;nbsp; If he had not broken his wrist 40 games into the 2011 season while go after a potential home run ball, I think he would have been protected.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How could the Orioles hold onto him for a season?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Orioles need a fourth outfielder.&amp;nbsp; Pham is likely not to be league average, but he has the tools to be adequate in any of the three outfield slots.&amp;nbsp; He has experience in center and left while Reimold has spent time in both left and right.&amp;nbsp; Pham also has plus speed and has shown some ability to use that speed on the base paths.&amp;nbsp; Those qualities could make him workable in a pinch if an outfielder goes down for a few weeks.&amp;nbsp; He 306 plate appearances at AA do not suggest he is ready to make the leap to MLB, but he has shown good gap power and improved contact.&amp;nbsp; Pham would be better served by spending the year in the minors, but it may be worth it for a bad team to try to use him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The alternative to Pham is using Kyle Hudson or Matt Angle in the outfield.&amp;nbsp; Hudson has more talent than Angle and Angle has more skill than Hudson.&amp;nbsp; Neither are likely to be anything more than fringe fourth outfielders.&amp;nbsp; Angle has a better chance to stick because he can play plus defense in center.&amp;nbsp; Pham, though, has the ability to be useful in center and carry an average to above average bat if everything clicks.&amp;nbsp; Additionally, if his broken wrist is still a problem, the Orioles might be able to stash him on the DL for a while.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As I mentioned earlier, the Rule 5 is full of unfulfilled potential, broken bodies, and guys who have one moderately amazing tool.&amp;nbsp; Any player you select is highly unlikely to provide any value to your team.&amp;nbsp; That does not mean there are no players of value.&amp;nbsp; It means that the ability to discern potential talent and be blessed (cursed?) with the opportunity to hold onto that talent is miniscule.&amp;nbsp; Pham is likely to not be a contributor at the MLB level now or perhaps even in the future.&amp;nbsp; He is a fringe top 20 prospect.&amp;nbsp; That said, maybe he is worth a look.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-1339242607830375749?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/1339242607830375749/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=1339242607830375749' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/1339242607830375749'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/1339242607830375749'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/oriole-rule-5-target-thomas-pham.html' title='Oriole Rule 5 Target: Thomas Pham'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-8479611627850894087</id><published>2011-11-19T08:26:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-19T09:38:48.226-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shepherd'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2011 Rule 5'/><title type='text'>Assortment of Rule 5 Eligible Players</title><content type='html'>&lt;table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: right; margin-left: 1em; text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://blog.prorumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/cesar_cabral.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="180" src="http://blog.prorumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/cesar_cabral.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Cesar Cabral could be taken again in Rule 5.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;The Rule 5 draft is one of those things that irritate me.&amp;nbsp; It is an event that has lost any meaning it use to have and is merely discussed because, simply, it takes place.&amp;nbsp; For instance, there has been concern that a Pedro Viola remains on the Orioles' 40 man roster while someone like Orioles Minor League Pitcher of the Year Tim Bascom was not protected (unprotected for the second year in a row).&amp;nbsp; There are a few things to be understood:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Being left off the 40 man roster does not mean that the organization does not value you.&amp;nbsp; It can sometimes mean that the organization thinks you are just too raw to be able to stick with a MLB team through the entire season (Rule 5 players cannot be demoted, only play in the Majors for someone or be returned to the parent club's minor league system).&amp;nbsp; By not protecting him, you save a spot on the 40 man roster and you wind up having an extra year to keep said prospect in the minors.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Players who are currently on the 40 man roster may not be planned to be there for long.&amp;nbsp; Many players, including guys like Pedro Viola, remain on the roster until free agents are signed and then are designated for assignment.&amp;nbsp; It is a good idea to take a step back before using a player occupying a 40 man roster spot as the lynchpin of an argument.&amp;nbsp; However, if you think Oliver Drake is less talented than someone else eligible for protection...type away.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Drake leads us to this (and I like Drake)...we are talking about relatively worthless prospects.&amp;nbsp; Ever since the last collective bargaining agreement tacked on an additional year of protection before MLB teams had to keep a guy on the 40 man roster, the rule 5 is now full of incredibly uninteresting players.&amp;nbsp; Who of importance have the Orioles lost in the past five years?&amp;nbsp; Pedro Beato.&amp;nbsp; He was probably the best Rule 5 selection last year and he had an ERA+ of 87.&amp;nbsp; That is about 20% worse than the average relief pitcher in the NL.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;What the above should impart upon you is that the Rule 5 is much ado about pretty much nothing.&amp;nbsp; The only truly interesting guys are those who are low minors with injuries that have prevented anyone from getting a good handle on the player.&amp;nbsp; This largely means relief pitchers and on rare occasions you have a utility player.&amp;nbsp; The only time you find a bonafide plus player in the Rule 5 now is if he is a reformed drug addict who had not played meaningful ball in four years.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, I will provide a list of a few players who might be of interest to the Orioles.&amp;nbsp; This is not intended to be a comprehensive list, but one that is merely a bit targeted.&amp;nbsp; I expect Baseball America will produce something more thorough in the next week or two.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Cody Satterwhite&lt;/span&gt;, RHRP&lt;br /&gt;25 years old &lt;br /&gt;Detroit Tigers&lt;br /&gt;Rookie 10 IP, 9 k/9, 1.8 b/9, 45.2% GB, 60% contact, 3.08 SIERA&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Satterwhite was a second round selection of the Tigers in 2008.&amp;nbsp; He was a reliever with a mid 90s fastball, a sharp slider, and control issues.&amp;nbsp; He was struck with a torn labrum, which is a death knell for most pitchers.&amp;nbsp; He missed all of 2010 and was limited to 10 innings for the rookie GCL Tigers team.&amp;nbsp; I do not have any notes on him from this summer, but he might be someone to take a flyer on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Johan Yan&lt;/span&gt;, RHRP&lt;br /&gt;23 years old &lt;br /&gt;Texas Rangers&lt;br /&gt;A+/AA 68 IP, 8.74 k/9, 2.9 b/9, 66% GB, 66% contact, 2.86 SIERA&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yan came into the Rangers organizations as a 16 year old signee with a plus arm.&amp;nbsp; He was considered a promising shortstop.&amp;nbsp; However, he had no ability to use a bat and was flipped to the mound after four difficult seasons.&amp;nbsp; After switch to a side arm release, he has had a great deal of success in the low minors.&amp;nbsp; His fastball sits in the high 80s and it is reported that his slider is about average.&amp;nbsp; He also showed particular aptitude to getting out right handed batters.&amp;nbsp; In AA, his stuff was a bit more hittable, but he still managed to induce a lot of poor contact.&amp;nbsp; A team could hide potentially hide a righty specialist in the pen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Cesar Cabral&lt;/span&gt;, LHRP&lt;br /&gt;22 years old &lt;br /&gt;Boston Red Sox&lt;br /&gt;A+/AA 53 IP, 11.4 k/9, 3.6 b/9, 52% GB, 56% Contact, 2.89 SIERA&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In last year's Rule 5 draft, the Tampa Bay Rays selected Cesar Cabral.&amp;nbsp; He was placed on waivers, then claimed by the Toronto Blue Jays, and then reclaimed by the Rays.&amp;nbsp; The Rays tried and failed to work out a deal with Boston and was then returned to the Red Sox.&amp;nbsp; Based on the reports that I have, Cabral worth with a fastball around 90 mph, a slurve, and a changeup.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Terry Doyle&lt;/span&gt;, RHSP&lt;br /&gt;26 years old&lt;br /&gt;Chicago White Sox&lt;br /&gt;A+/AA 173 IP, 6.4 k/9, 1.7 b/9, 48% GB, 76% contact, 3.85 SIERA&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Doyle is your more typical player that mainstream press notices.&amp;nbsp; He is a minor league inning eater who gets by with solid control of the strike zone.&amp;nbsp; It is one of those things where performance does not exactly relate well to performance against higher caliber players.&amp;nbsp; This off season Doyle has been pitching in the Arizona Fall League and has permitted every team to get a good look-see on him.&amp;nbsp; As a starter, he sits in the upper 80s and sometimes gets it up to 91 or 92 mph.&amp;nbsp; According to Kevin Goldstein, he survives off a cutter and keeps pace with an average curveball and change up.&amp;nbsp; I could see someone taking a chance on him as a fastball/cutter/curve middle reliever who could rack up innings.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The players above fit pretty much the expected archetypes.&amp;nbsp; You have the once promising pitcher who has had severe injuries issues.&amp;nbsp; There is the young international signing who was switched from the field to the mound.&amp;nbsp; A lefty who has shown promise in the low minors, but lacks stuff.&amp;nbsp; You also have the low ceiling inning eating righty who is showing off his wares in the AFL.&amp;nbsp; On the batting side you have players like Jordan Danks who is a very athletic outfielder who has improved with his hitting from when he was drafted, but is likely at best a fourth outfielder.&amp;nbsp; If the Orioles lacked Matt Angle or Kyle Hudson, I could see Danks as a potential selection there.&amp;nbsp; I do think he has more upside than either.&amp;nbsp; There are also strong bats like Kody Hinze who is about a year away from being considered as potentially a useful backup player.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-8479611627850894087?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/8479611627850894087/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=8479611627850894087' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/8479611627850894087'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/8479611627850894087'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/assortment-of-rule-5-eligible-players.html' title='Assortment of Rule 5 Eligible Players'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-2206012764168062258</id><published>2011-11-18T07:08:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-18T07:08:00.476-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Science of Baseball'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Arm Injury'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pitching Overuse'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Will Beaudouin'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Becoming Acquainted'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pitching'/><title type='text'>Interview with an Arm Injury Researcher, Part II</title><content type='html'>&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; orphans: 0; widows: 0;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;by Will Beaudoin&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Will is a freelance writer who has written for Camden Depot &lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/search/label/Will%20Beaudouin"&gt;previously&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: right; text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.pitching.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/Long-toss-collage.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="266" src="http://www.pitching.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/Long-toss-collage.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Long Toss Mechanics&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt; (Picture from Dick Mills' site.&lt;/span&gt;)&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;During mydiscussion with Dr. Fleisig, I asked him for a few examples ofcompelling research in the field of biomechanics from the past year.Interestingly enough, he directed me towards two articles he had ahand in creaing—“Biomechanical Comparison of Baseball Pitchingand Long-Toss: Implications for Training and Rehabilitation”(Fleisig, Bolt, et al, 2011; &lt;i&gt;Ed. note: Camden Depot discussed this article briefly in a &lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/05/science-of-baseball-may-29-2011.html"&gt;previous post&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;) and “Risk of Serious Injury For YoungBaseball Pitchers: A 10-Year Prospective Study” (Fleisig, Andrews,et al, 2011).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;The first piece, concerning itself withthe somewhat controversial training and rehabilitation practice knownlong-toss, Fleisig et al. (2011) set for the hypothesis that thereare “kinetic…differences in the throwing shoulder and elbow” inlong-toss when compared to pitching off a mound (p. 297). More than adozen college-level pitchers were asked to long-toss from 37 meters,55 meters, and from a “maximum distance”. For the 37 meter and 55meter throws, the pitchers were required to throw with little to noarc, while no such restriction was placed on the “maximum distance”toss. Data from this session was collected using a motion capturedevice. On a separate occasion, the same pitchers were asked to throwtheir “standard” fastball from a mound, again whilst recorded bya motion capture device.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;As Orioles fans, this is a study thatshould interest us considering the &lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-passan_baseball_draft_bundy_bauer_long_toss_debate_051911"&gt;controversy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;surrounding Dylan Bundy’s own long-toss program around draft timeand it’s potential long-term physical effects. While thisparticular study doesn’t provide any conclusive evidence in regardto long-term injury outlook, the study does show that both “shoulderand elbow torque increase with throwing distance” (p. 302). Thisleads the researchers to believe that long-toss, especially “maximum”distance long-toss may in fact be harmful to a pitcher—perhapssomething to keep in mind when thinking about Bundy’s long-termhealth.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;The article titled, “Risk of SeriousInjury For Young Baseball Pitchers: a 10-Year Prospective Study”,focused on pitching injuries in young pitchers and seemingly dispelsthe widespread belief that youth pitchers shouldn’t throw breakingballs for fear of injury. A long-term study, the researchersmonitored nearly 500 pitchers under the age of fourteen over aten-year period. After hundreds and hundreds of interviews over thecourse of a decade, it was discovered that it wasn’t so much thepitch-type that led to injury, but rather the amount of pitches andinnings thrown. Over the course of the study, Fleisig et al.discovered that pitchers who threw more than 100 innings in a singleyear “had about 3.5 times as much chance of serious injury as thosewho pitched less” while they couldn’t “determine whetherpitchers who started throwing curveballs before age 13 years [had] ahigher chance of injury” (p. 256). While not necessarily directlyapplicable to the major league level, research such as this only goesto show that so much of injury prevention lies within the rathersimple philosophy of volume management. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;I also had the chance to talk brieflywith Will Carroll in regard to pitching injuries. Will, who got hisstart at Baseball Prospectus, now writes for Sports Illustrated, andhas authored several books dealing with sports injuries, was kindenough to answer a couple of my questions.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0.17in; orphans: 0; widows: 0;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;A commontheme when discussing pitching injuries on the Internet is the phrase“inverted w.” &amp;nbsp;Do you have any thoughts on the validity ofinverted w's being dangerous to a pitcher's health?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; orphans: 0; widows: 0;"&gt;I'm not aproponent of the Inverted W. Back when I was first learning aboutbiomechanics, I talked to a lot of the top minds in the game and Ifelt like I knew enough to just look and see things. Well, as withumpires and the strike zone, sometimes our eyes lie. I want more thanjust observations - I want data. With biomechanics analysis, we canfigure out how much stress a pitcher is actually putting on joints,how much force they're exerting, and then we need to move to fatigueand recovery. Few teams are doing the first part of this and fewerare doing the second. Should we wonder then why baseball has lostover a BILLION dollars to pitcher injuries in the last ten years?Moneyball talked about ASMI and their biomechanics lab, but you knowhow many teams use it now? Maybe two.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; orphans: 0; widows: 0;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0.17in; orphans: 0; widows: 0;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tommy Johnsurgery has seemingly reached a point where we expect the pitcher tomake a full recovery after 16-18 months. However, shoulder tears arestill viewed as the boogey man of injuries. Will this always be thecase? Can we expect to reach a point in the (relatively) near futurein which pitchers who suffer labrum tears are expected to fullyrecover?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; orphans: 0; widows: 0;"&gt;No. Dr. NealElAttrache was on a panel with me this summer and he's &lt;i&gt;the guy&lt;/i&gt;for shoulders. (Once, Jim Andrews was asked what the first thing hedoes when he sees a torn labrum case and he said "call Neal fora consult.") Neal gave a great explanation which might still beup at the SABR site [&lt;i&gt;Ed. Note: Audio of the panel can be found&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="https://sabr.box.net/shared/static/txb0qlzzmyxbugso648q.mp3"&gt;&lt;i&gt;here&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt; - the panel was at their annual convention - about how theshoulder is so complex, that its like putting together a puzzlewithout the box top. The elbow is a hinge. It moves one way. Look athow many things the shoulder can do and how many structures it takesto do it. Just move your shoulder around and pay attention to what ittakes to move through various motions and you'll understand why it’sso tough to get it back to original condition.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-2206012764168062258?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/2206012764168062258/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=2206012764168062258' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/2206012764168062258'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/2206012764168062258'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/interview-with-arm-injury-researcher.html' title='Interview with an Arm Injury Researcher, Part II'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-1724407164508793894</id><published>2011-11-16T16:26:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-16T16:26:17.828-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shepherd'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2011 Rule 5'/><title type='text'>Orioles Up for Rule 5 Draft</title><content type='html'>&lt;table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: right; margin-left: 1em; text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.itsalreadysigned4u.com/shop/media/images/product_detail/paulblair8x10.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://www.itsalreadysigned4u.com/shop/media/images/product_detail/paulblair8x10.jpg" width="254" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Orioles' best Rule 5 selection: Paul Blair&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;The Rule 5 draft was implemented in 1959 as part of a roughly two decade effort to provide an equal footing to all teams.&amp;nbsp; The concern had been that clubs with a good deal of money were signing up high quality prospects and then letting them fester in the minor leagues.&amp;nbsp; The first major action against this practice was the bonus rule which 'prevented' teams from demoting signees who had received a large signing bonus.&amp;nbsp; The bonus rule proved unsatisfactory because teams figured ways around it and there were considered better ways to redistribute talent.&amp;nbsp; The Rule 5 draft was considered that mechanism.&amp;nbsp; It works similarly to the Rule 4 draft, but instead of amateurs being selected the teams choose from unprotected minor leaguers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The current form of the Rule 5 draft was determined with the signing of the 2006 Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA).&amp;nbsp; This year's may alter how the Rule 5 is carried out, but I have yet to hear about it.&amp;nbsp; In 2006, the major change was that an extra year of protection was provided and that enabled teams to evaluate their players for an extra year before exposing them.&amp;nbsp; In this scenario it would be unlikely to see guys like Johann Santana anymore because that extra year of evaluation will allow the team to see their player grow for another year and determine how he best fits into the organization.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If the CBA rules remain, player eligibility will be:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Players who were signed at age 19 or older and have been in professional baseball for three years or more (this means players who signed from the 2008 draft or IFA)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Players who were signed at age 18 or younger and have been in professional baseball for four years or more (this means players who signed from the 2007 draft or IFA)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;All players on the 40 man roster as exempted from the Rule 5 draft&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;In the remainder of this post, I will touch on a selected few players who were eligible last year and again this year as well as list all of the individuals who are eligible for their first Rule 5 draft.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Previously Eligible&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pat Egan - Brewers selected him last year, but he failed to stick and was unimpressive this year.&lt;br /&gt;Steve Johnson - He is a pitcher who has to learn at every step. Off hand chance he is selected.&lt;br /&gt;Billy Rowell - He has yet to be released from the organization, so he is eligible again. &lt;br /&gt;Wynn Pelzer - Someone might be intrigued, but he is incredibly wild.&lt;br /&gt;Brandon Waring - No one will have space for a poor contact home run hitter who cannot field or walk well.&lt;br /&gt;Tim Bascom - As a 26yo in Bowie, his PoTY season is not incredibly impressive, but he shows more value now than before.&amp;nbsp; He will likely need to be protected.&lt;br /&gt;Joe Mahoney - Hard time believing he could stick a year in the majors.&lt;br /&gt;Brandon Cooney - Had issues with control this year, but is on a few teams' radar.&lt;br /&gt;John Hester - Good technical catcher with occasional pop.&lt;br /&gt;Cole McCurry - Lefty dominated AA and held his own at AAA.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;2007 Draft&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tyler Kolodny - not ready&lt;br /&gt;Justin Moore - not ready&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;2008 Draft&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Greg Miclat - could be useful utility player or fill in at second for a few weeks.&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Richard Zagone - may be seen as a lefty reliever.&lt;br /&gt;Caleb Joseph - may be seen as a backup catcher.&lt;br /&gt;Nick Haughian - potential lefty reliever, but not overpowering.&lt;br /&gt;Nathan Moreau - same as above.&lt;br /&gt;Jason Gurka - intriguing lefty arm, possible selection.&lt;br /&gt;Bobby Stevens - not ready&lt;br /&gt;Ronnie Welty - intriguing athleticism, potential 4th outfielder.&lt;br /&gt;Eddie Gamboa - not ready, good organizational arm.&lt;br /&gt;Ryan O'Shea - not ready&lt;br /&gt;Buck Britton - not ready&lt;br /&gt;Oliver Drake - breakout in Frederick tempered by Bowie.&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Players I think need to be protected:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oliver Drake&lt;br /&gt;Greg Miclat&lt;br /&gt;Tim Bascom&lt;br /&gt;Steve Johnson&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cole McCurry&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That written, I do not really feel strongly about any of these players.&amp;nbsp; &lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-1724407164508793894?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/1724407164508793894/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=1724407164508793894' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/1724407164508793894'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/1724407164508793894'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/orioles-up-for-rule-5-draft.html' title='Orioles Up for Rule 5 Draft'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-5867202503683043438</id><published>2011-11-15T17:05:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-15T17:07:16.318-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jonathan Schoop'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Baltimore Orioles Prospects'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faleris'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 prospect rankings'/><title type='text'>2012 Top 25 Prospects: #3 Jonathan Schoop</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:x-small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Follow us on Twitter: &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/CamdenDepot"&gt;@CamdenDepot&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Player: Jonathan Schoop&lt;br /&gt;Position: third base/second base&lt;br /&gt;Ht/Wt: 6-1/185&lt;br /&gt;B/T: R/R&lt;br /&gt;Age at 11/2011: 20y1m&lt;br /&gt;2011 level(s): A Delmarva; Advanced-A Frederick&lt;br /&gt;2011 statistics: &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=schoop001jon"&gt;Baseball-reference&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href="http://minorleaguecentral.com/player.php?pid=570731"&gt;Minor League Central&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Grades - Now (Future)&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Hit: 40/45 (55)&lt;br /&gt;Power: 40 (50/55)&lt;br /&gt;Arm: 55/60 (60)&lt;br /&gt;Defense: 45 (50/55)&lt;br /&gt;Speed: 40 (40)&lt;br /&gt;Feel: 50 (55/60)&lt;br /&gt;Overall Future Potential: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;56-59&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prospect Grade: &lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"&gt;B+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;*&lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/primer-scouting-scale-and-prospect.html"&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; for primer on Grades&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Background&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Signed as an international free agent in 2008 out of Curacao, and the highest ranked international prospect in Camden Depot's four years of prospect coverage. Among the youngest players in the Class A South Atlantic League and the Advanced-A Carolina League. Selected to the 2011 MLB Futures Game, International Team, participating during 2011 All-Star Weekend.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Physical Description&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Medium build with even distribution. Potential to add core weight and trunk weight, which will keep him a below-average runner. Will tighten physique as he continues to mature. When all is said and done, could resemble Chase Utley or Evan Longoria build, depending on how things fill out.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Hitting&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Schoop benefits from maintaining a compact path from load through contact, which allows him to deliver an economically accelerated barrel to the ball. As his trunk and core thicken, he is generating more and more bat speed and manifesting more and more in-game power. He will continue to improve consistency in his balance and weight transfer, which will aid him in squaring off-speed offerings from more advanced arms. As with many younger bats, he needs to do a better job identifying pitches, but he is already reasonably advanced at spotting hitter friendly situations and adjusting his approach accordingly. His offensive ceiling is a bit lower that that of Machado, as he lacks Manny's plate coverage and bat speed. Still, Schoop may be a slightly safer bet to hit at the highest level, given his knack for contact and compact cuts, and plenty of managers would take Schoop over Machado if they need a "right now" at bat.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Defense&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Schoop has athleticism to spare and were it not for below-average foot speed he might even project to shortstop as a Major Leaguer. His footwork and arm strength play-up at third base, but his highest value is as an offensive-minded second baseman. He is comfortable in his skin and moves easily around the bag as well as while ranging to his left and right. He sees the field well and should be a solid to above-average defender at either the five- or four-spot.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Discussion&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;The fall-off between Machado and Schoop is less than the fall-off between Bundy and Machado from a ranking standpoint, but all three are potential above-average first division regulars with star upside. For Schoop, the difference maker will likely be the development of his power tool, which projects well but will be dependent upon how his physicality manifests.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If he can continue to increase core strength without getting too bottom heavy, Schoop could be an above-average defender at second base with mid-20s homerun power. Conversely, he could see a jump in core/trunk strength limiting his side-to-side agility but bumping his power grade up to 30-homerun potential.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Additionally, Schoop signifies the type of potential Latin American impact talent that has been sorely missing in the Baltimore system over the past ten-plus years. Continued success for him and Machado up-the-middle could be a boon for the Orioles, particularly if the two of them are able to provide above-average power production for the middle-infield slots.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ceiling: Above-average second baseman on first division team&lt;br /&gt;Floor: Fringe-average third baseman on first division team&lt;br /&gt;Projected: Solid average second baseman on first division team&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-5867202503683043438?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/5867202503683043438/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=5867202503683043438' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/5867202503683043438'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/5867202503683043438'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/2012-top-25-prospects-3-jonathan-schoop.html' title='2012 Top 25 Prospects: #3 Jonathan Schoop'/><author><name>Nick J Faleris</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12413352719310759010</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-6969307677826363326</id><published>2011-11-15T06:01:00.005-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-15T07:56:06.503-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Baltimore Orioles Prospects'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='manny machado'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faleris'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 prospect rankings'/><title type='text'>2012 Top 25 Prospects: #2 Manny Machado</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:x-small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Follow us on Twitter: &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/CamdenDepot"&gt;@CamdenDepot&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Player: Manny Machado&lt;br /&gt;Position: shortstop&lt;br /&gt;Ht/Wt: 6-3/185&lt;br /&gt;B/T: R/R&lt;br /&gt;Age at 11/2011: 19y4m&lt;br /&gt;2011 level(s): A Delmarva; Advanced-A Frederick&lt;br /&gt;2011 statistics: &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=machad001man"&gt;Baseball-reference&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href="http://minorleaguecentral.com/player.php?pid=592518"&gt;Minor League Central&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Grades - Now (Future)&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Hit: 40 (55/60)&lt;br /&gt;Power: 40 (55)&lt;br /&gt;Arm: 60 (65)&lt;br /&gt;Defense: 45/50 (50/55)&lt;br /&gt;Speed: 50 (45/50)&lt;br /&gt;Feel: 50 (60/65)&lt;br /&gt;Overall Future Potential: &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;57-62&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prospect Grade: &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;A-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;*&lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/primer-scouting-scale-and-prospect.html"&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; for primer on Grades&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Background&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Drafted third overall in the 2010 Draft, out of Brito Private High School (Miami, Fla.). Among the youngest players in the Class A South Atlantic League and the youngest in the Advanced-A Carolina League. Selected to the 2011 MLB Futures Game, US Team, participating during 2011 All-Star Weekend. 2011 progress was slowed some due to about a month's worth of missed time due to a patella subluxation of his left knee, and there is potential for lingering issues.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Physical Description&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Long, angular, broad frame. Certain to add lots of size over the years, particularly in legs and chest/shoulders. Athletic actions and agility -- impressive given current disposition on growth curve. Fringe-average speed and likely to slow as he continues to thicken. Knee will need to be monitored and consistently strengthened.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Hitting&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Starting from an open stance, Machado utilizes good hip rotation and quick hands to generate bat speed and produce loud contact when he squares. An advanced understanding of the strikezone, as well as well above-average hand/eye coordination allow the young shortstop to barrel plenty of balls and help his hit tool to project to a potential plus weapon as he continues to refine his game.  With the addition of significant bulk on the horizon, Machado also has the potential to grow into plus power, though right now his swing is a little more tailored to shooting the gaps and spraying line-drives pole-to-pole. He will also benefit from better identifying pitches he can drive and working to get those pitches from at bat to at bat. Machado has the mental aptitude and physical ability to blossom into a .300/.380/.480 bat, which would easily play as above-average at shortstop or at third.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Defense&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Machado's hands are soft, his arm is an easy "left side" arm, and his body control is highly impressive given his borderline gangly frame.  He shows little difficulty charging the ball and will make his throws from all the angles. Around the bag he is smooth and confident. The main obstacle to his sticking at shortstop, long term, is his size. Already a broad build whose range can be stretched in-game, Machado risks losing his playable zone coverage as his lower-half gets thicker and stronger and he gets more bulk and less flexibility in his shoulders and chest. Should he shift to third, he should be an above-average defender there. If he sticks at short, he should be adequate to the edges and above-average in the meat of his zone and with his pivots.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Discussion&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Machado has all the raw natural talent in the world, and an impressive understanding of the game and how to approach it. Among the youngest prospects in full season ball last season, Machado showed some susceptibility to expanding the zone at the plate and hitting a few too many "pitcher's pitches". As he continues to log innings at the pro ranks, he should quickly tighten-up his at bats and is likely to produce even more consistent hard contact, as well as more in-game power.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;His ceiling is that of a perennial all-star candidate at shortstop -- something fans in Baltimore formerly claimed as a birthright but have been deprived of since #8 rode off into the sunset. It is a lot to put on a young man, to refer to him and Ripken in the same sentence, but if any Orioles position prospect over the past decade carries that level of talent, it's Manny Machado.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While Machado is more likely to top out as an above-average producer at the hot corner, he is young enough, projectable enough, and talented enough to dream on the best case scenario.  His knee will be a wildcard, but the hope is that proper strength and flexibility training will render the concern moot.  He could start 2012 back in Frederick or make the jump to Double-A Bowie, and figures to be ready for a shot in Baltimore by mid- to late-2013.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ceiling: Perennial all-star shortstop on first division team&lt;br /&gt;Floor: Average third baseman on first division team&lt;br /&gt;Projected: Above-average shortstop on first division team; mid- to late-20s shift to third base&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-6969307677826363326?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/6969307677826363326/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=6969307677826363326' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/6969307677826363326'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/6969307677826363326'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/2012-top-25-prospects-2-manny-machado.html' title='2012 Top 25 Prospects: #2 Manny Machado'/><author><name>Nick J Faleris</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12413352719310759010</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-218178428895337902</id><published>2011-11-14T18:01:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-14T20:21:35.344-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='dylan bundy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Baltimore Orioles Prospects'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faleris'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 prospect rankings'/><title type='text'>2012 Top 25 Prospects: #1 Dylan Bundy</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Follow us on Twitter: &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/CamdenDepot"&gt;@CamdenDepot&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Player: Dylan Bundy&lt;br /&gt;Position: right-handed pitcher&lt;br /&gt;Ht/Wt: 6-1/200&lt;br /&gt;B/T: B/R&lt;br /&gt;Age at 11/2011: 19y0m&lt;br /&gt;2011 level(s): N/A&lt;br /&gt;2011 statistics: N/A&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Grades - Now (Future)&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Motion: 55 (60)&lt;br /&gt;Fastball: 55/60 (65/70)&lt;br /&gt;Curveball: 45/50 (60)&lt;br /&gt;Change: 40 (55/60)&lt;br /&gt;Cutter: 50/55 (60/65)&lt;br /&gt;Control: 45/50 (60)&lt;br /&gt;Command: 40/45 (55/60)&lt;br /&gt;Feel: 45/50 (60)&lt;br /&gt;Overall Future Potential: &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;58-62&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prospect Grade: &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;A-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;*&lt;a href="http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/primer-scouting-scale-and-prospect.html"&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; for primer on Grades&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Background&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Drafted fourth overall in the 2011 Draft, out of Owasso High School (Owasso, Okla.).  Brother Robert “Bobby” Bundy (rhp) pitched most of 2011 as a starter for the Frederick Keys (Advanced-A, Baltimore system) before finishing the season at Bowie (Double-A, Baltimore system).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Physical Description&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Thick, sturdy build. Strength concentrated in thighs/butt, but well proportioned throughout. Athlete with impressive physique and strength but limited physicality and projection.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Motion&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Bundy generates his velocity and big spin on his breaking balls through a quick arm and explosive lower-half. He gets quick drive out of his powerful legs and butt, rotating through with a strong core. Additionally, Bundy uses a low ball drop to start his arm circle, which gives him extra time to accelerate the ball through release (think of a car accelerating in a straight line, measuring speed once at 200-feet and once at 500-feet). Bundy is strong and athletic, showing little trouble maintaining his mechanics and little effort past what you would expect out of an arm throwing in the mid-90s.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Stuff&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Fastball&lt;/i&gt; - The fastball is big and loud, clocking regularly in the mid-90s, with an ability to climb to 97/98 mph (and some reports have him hitting triple-digits in Spring 2011). He commands the pitch well to both sides and does a solid job working down in the zone and elevating as needed. There is some question as to how easy it will be for Bundy to maintain the velocity on shorter rest over a longer season, but it's a potential plus-plus pitch.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Cutter&lt;/i&gt; - Bundy's cutter is an out pitch now, with borderline slider depth and late life. He brings the pitch in the 86 to 88-mph range, allowing it to serve as a change-of-pace offering. It has developed into his most effective pitch and could be plus or better as he continues to develop as a pro.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Curve&lt;/i&gt; - Bundy's curve flashes plus right now and is “on” more often than not. At its best it is a hard 12-to-6 breaker with good depth and hard snap. He can tighten the pitch with more use, giving it more consistent bite and shape. The foundation is here for a third plus-or-better weapon in the armory.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Change-up&lt;/i&gt; - Bundy used his change-up more as a junior, and the summer prior to his senior year at Owasso, before his cutter took a big step forward. He has shown feel for it in the past, but will need to spend some time bringing it up to speed with the rest of his repertoire.  There is already enough here to hang a future “50” on it, and perhaps better considering the young flame-thrower’s overall feel for the craft.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Discussion&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Bundy had one of the more impressive high school seasons in recent memory leading-up to Draft Day, and separated himself as the top right-handed high school arm in a draft deep in pitching. Despite having yet to throw an official pitch in professional ball, Bundy has more "now" stuff than any other arm in the Baltimore system and fits comfortably as the top overall prospect -- lofty praise considering the Oklahoman turns just 19-years old this month.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;His advanced feel for three offerings and a chance for a forth pitch that is at least average, combined with steady and repeatable mechanics and a famous work ethic and training regimen, give him a reasonably high floor for a prep pitcher.  He has an even demeanor on the mound, and is well equipped to tackle the challenges of transitioning to pro ball, including a debut assignment in full-season ball.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The two slight knocks on Baltimore’s 2011 first-rounder are his size and past workload, and while his spring numbers were eye-popping they came against uneven competition (as with many prep arms).  As of today, it is difficult to envision Bundy falling shy of a front-end spot in a Major League rotation, but if workload and shorter rest prove problematic he could thrive as an elite power arm out of the pen.  In fact, you could stick him in a Major League pen right now and feel fairly confident he could keep his head above water.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ceiling: #1 starter on first division team; true “ace”&lt;br /&gt;Floor: Power closer on first division team&lt;br /&gt;Projected: #1/#2 starter on first division team&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-218178428895337902?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/218178428895337902/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=218178428895337902' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/218178428895337902'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/218178428895337902'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/2012-top-25-prospects-1-dylan-bundy.html' title='2012 Top 25 Prospects: #1 Dylan Bundy'/><author><name>Nick J Faleris</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12413352719310759010</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-8999116571355610714</id><published>2011-11-14T05:30:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-14T05:30:02.763-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shepherd'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2011 MiL FA'/><title type='text'>MiL Free Agent Pitchers of Interest</title><content type='html'>&lt;table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: right; margin-left: 1em; text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://espndeportes-assets.espn.go.com/2003/photos2010/0613/Miguel-Socolovich300.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://espndeportes-assets.espn.go.com/2003/photos2010/0613/Miguel-Socolovich300.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Miguel Socolovich&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;The Orioles mentioned recently that they are paying attention to the MiL free agent market.&amp;nbsp; It was not exactly the news many Orioles fans were craving.&amp;nbsp; MiL free agents are typically a motley assortment of players who either do one or two things kind of well, used to be highly rated, or simply provide organizational depth.&amp;nbsp; All three can be useful.&amp;nbsp; A player with one or two tools may be able to develop those established tools well enough to overcome a lack of ability in other areas.&amp;nbsp; A formerly high rated prospect may simply need more time or a different line of instruction to turn the potential into actual performance.&amp;nbsp; An organizational player is important because he simply allows your other prospects to perform.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this post I will be focusing on ten MiL free agent pitchers.&amp;nbsp; My approach is a simple one.&amp;nbsp; I am looking for players who are 26 or younger and have shown ability to miss bats, strike guys out, or induce a lot of ground balls.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Brendan Wise&lt;/span&gt;, RHRP&lt;br /&gt;26 years old&lt;br /&gt;(AAA) 5.7 k/9, 4.2 b/9, 62% GB, 84% Contact, 4.08 SIERA&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wise is a Tigers draftee from the 2005 draft.&amp;nbsp; He basically lives off a solid two seamer that has been reported as coming in at 90 mph.&amp;nbsp; He also uses a workable slider as a change of pace pitch.&amp;nbsp; Wise could be a solid option by keeping the ball on the ground for a team like the Orioles whose home stadium is kind to fly ball hitters.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Leyson Septimo&lt;/span&gt;, LHRP&lt;br /&gt;26 years old&lt;br /&gt;(AA) 9.6 k/9, 6.6 b/9, 40% GB, 78% Contact, 4.39 SIERA&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Septimo was a promising IFA from the Dominican Republic in the Diamondbacks' organization.&amp;nbsp; He was blessed with a strong arm, but not much of a bat.&amp;nbsp; In a way to get some value out of him, the team flipped him over to the mound.&amp;nbsp; Arizona gave up on him last year and he was claimed by the White Sox.&amp;nbsp; After a terrible stretch with them, they let him go as a free agent.&amp;nbsp; A hard throwing lefty can be a special thing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Miguel Socolovich&lt;/span&gt;, RHRP&lt;br /&gt;25 years old&lt;br /&gt;(AAA) 11.5 k/9, 4.4 b/9, 33% GB, 65% contact, 3.08 SIERA&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Socolovich was originally in the Red Sox organization, but was dealt to get David Aardsma from the ChiSox.&amp;nbsp; I do not really know much about him as I tend to largely overlook relief arms.&amp;nbsp; A Sox Prospect report says he predominantly uses his fastball, sitting around 88 - 92 mph.&amp;nbsp; However, that would have to be a rather old report and I am not sure how accurate it was.&amp;nbsp; Just looking at the numbers, Socolovich looks very interesting with a high strikeout rate and batters swinging and missing 35% of the time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Will Inman&lt;/span&gt;, RHSP&lt;br /&gt;24 years old&lt;br /&gt;(AAA) 9.1 k/9, 4.2 b/9, 42% GB, 82% contact, 3.93 SIERA&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Inman's 5.61 ERA looked awful, but his peripherals were decent.&amp;nbsp; He is not the top 100 prospect Baseball America thought of him as in 2007, but there is still potential there.&amp;nbsp; He will not overpower batters and will often sit in the high 80s with his fastball.&amp;nbsp; He would do well to fill out a MiL AAA rotation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Jose De La Torre&lt;/span&gt;, RHRP&lt;br /&gt;26 years old&lt;br /&gt;(mix) 9.6 k/9, 4.8 b/9, 49% GB, 66% contact, 3.72 SIERA&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;De La Torre has been somewhat injury prone during his career with arm and back ailments.&amp;nbsp; He is known for throwing a very good slider of which he does not exactly have the best control.&amp;nbsp; He is another player I think is worth a flyer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Jake Stevens&lt;/span&gt;, LHRP&lt;br /&gt;26 years old&lt;br /&gt;(mix) 7.8 k/9, 3.6 b/9, 43% GB, 73% contact, 4.19 SIERA&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Stevens pitched for the Orioles organization in 2009.&amp;nbsp; They had picked him up after poor performance and injuries derailed his career with the Atlanta Braves.&amp;nbsp; He was considered a top 100 prospect by Baseball America in 2005.&amp;nbsp; The report on him then raved about the makings of his curveball.&amp;nbsp; He is the second and last LHP on this list.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Jhonny Nunez&lt;/span&gt;, RHRP&lt;br /&gt;26 years old&lt;br /&gt;(AAA) 9.6 k/9, 3.5 b/9, 37% GB, 74% contact, 3.40 SIERA&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nunez has been sitting in the ChiSox organization for the last couple years and has been relatively successful there.&amp;nbsp; He features a mid to low 90s fastball and an average slider.&amp;nbsp; As expected, it translates to him being lights out against righties and quite hittable against lefties.&amp;nbsp; There does seem to be potential here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Daryl Thompson&lt;/span&gt;, RHSP&lt;br /&gt;26 years old&lt;br /&gt;(AAA) 8.1 k/9, 2.6 b/9, 34% GB, 77% contact, 3.74 SIERA&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thompson has had a couple cups of coffee with the Reds and they have not gone well.&amp;nbsp; He commands a straight 90 mph fastball quite well and uses an inconsistent curveball.&amp;nbsp; He also uses a simple change of pace change up.&amp;nbsp; He is hittable and lefties do a little more damage against him.&amp;nbsp; I would think a shift to relief pitching might be able to put a little more velocity on his fastball and make him more useful.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Conclusion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If I was the Orioles, I would look to bring in Daryl Thompson, Will Inman, Miguel Socolovich, Leyson Septimo, and Jake Stevens.&amp;nbsp; This grouping would give them more depth with young starting pitching that has a slight chance for improvement.&amp;nbsp; Socolovich provides a promising right handed arm that misses a lot of bat.&amp;nbsp; Septimo and Stevens can be useful lefties out of the pen.&amp;nbsp; They each have a tool or two that gives hope for more than replacement value at the MLB level.&amp;nbsp; However, none of these are definites.&amp;nbsp; I would actually like to sign all of these guys and distribute them among Bowie and Norfolk because there are pitcher within our system that are interesting.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is awfully early to make such pronouncements, but I would envision Norfolk's pitching as this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;RHSP Steve Johnson&lt;br /&gt;RHSP Daryl Thompson&lt;br /&gt;RHSP Will Inman&lt;br /&gt;LHSP Chris Tillman (though I would prefer him in the Orioles pen)&lt;br /&gt;RHSP Tim Bascom&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;RHRP Sean Gleason&lt;br /&gt;LHRP Cole McCurry&lt;br /&gt;RHRP Wynn Pelzer&lt;br /&gt;LHRP Zach Phillips&lt;br /&gt;RHRP Pat Egan&lt;br /&gt;RHRP Miguel Socolovich&lt;br /&gt;LHRP Leyson Septimo&lt;/blockquote&gt;Bowie's pitching:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;RHSP Oliver Drake&lt;br /&gt;RHSP Bobby Bundy&lt;br /&gt;LHSP Richard Zagone&lt;br /&gt;LHSP Nick Haughian&lt;br /&gt;LHSP Jacob Petit&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;RHRP Zach Clark&lt;br /&gt;RHRP Brandon Cooney&lt;br /&gt;RHRP Dan Klein&lt;br /&gt;LHRP Jason Gurka&lt;br /&gt;RHRP Kenny Moreland&lt;br /&gt;LHRP Chris Petrini&lt;br /&gt;RHRP Ryan Berry&lt;/blockquote&gt;As you may notice, all of the Bowie pitchers are from within the organization.&amp;nbsp; I don't think what is left above is all that much better than what is already here.&amp;nbsp; Part of that is the state of the Orioles' system, but another part is that simply there is often little talent available coming from six year free agents.&amp;nbsp; I would consider moving Zach Clark down to Frederick to be a relief pitcher for another lefty, so maybe Jake Stevens could fit in here.&amp;nbsp; Or probably better would be to drop Septimo to Bowie and have Stevens up in Norfolk.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-8999116571355610714?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/8999116571355610714/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=8999116571355610714' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/8999116571355610714'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/8999116571355610714'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/mil-free-agent-pitchers-of-interest.html' title='MiL Free Agent Pitchers of Interest'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-8764731346866906052</id><published>2011-11-13T16:39:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-14T17:04:49.210-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='scout scale primer'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faleris'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 prospect rankings'/><title type='text'>Primer: Scouting scale and prospect grade scale</title><content type='html'>&lt;u&gt;Description of 20/80 scout scale&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;The Scouting Scale works from 20-80, with 50 being Major League Average. The scale operates loosely on a bell curve, so the further you move from 50 the fewer grades you'll find among ML players (e.g. Justin Verlander's fastball, Ichiro Suzuki's arm strength, Mark Reynold's power and Albert Pujols' hit tool would all be 80 grade). A 60 grade is sometimes referred to as plus and a 70 grade is sometimes referred to as plus-plus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Scout to prospect grading scale with descriptions&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;66 and over / A+ / Potential top prospect in baseball; potential generational talent&lt;br /&gt;63-65 / A / Elite prospect; perennial all-star candidate&lt;br /&gt;59-62 / A- / Top tier prospect; above-average first division starter; front end starter&lt;br /&gt;55-58 / B+ / Good prospect; first division starter; mid-rotation starter; top tier reliever&lt;br /&gt;51-55 / B / Solid prospect; second division starter; back-end starter; good relief arm&lt;br /&gt;46-50 / B- / Prospect with questions; fringe starter; useful bench player or platoon; fringe reliever&lt;br /&gt;40-45 / C+ / Flawed prospect; fringe bench player&lt;br /&gt;35-39 / C / Significantly flawed prospect; limited utility; AAAA placeholder or injury insurance&lt;br /&gt;30-34 / C- / Fringe prospect; significant hurdles to Majors&lt;br /&gt;20-29 / NP / Non-prospect; organizational player&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-8764731346866906052?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/8764731346866906052/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=8764731346866906052' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/8764731346866906052'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/8764731346866906052'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/primer-scouting-scale-and-prospect.html' title='Primer: Scouting scale and prospect grade scale'/><author><name>Nick J Faleris</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12413352719310759010</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-6175029471269859026</id><published>2011-11-13T06:00:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-13T06:00:05.913-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='MiL Recap'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faleris'/><title type='text'>MiLB Year in Review: Bowie Baysox and Norfolk Tides</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://c.shld.net/rpx/i/s/pi/mp/4130/4973490101p?src=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.auctionworks.com%2Fhi%2F8%2F7605%2F11td239.jpg&amp;amp;d=937fb4bb998a4bb3fe942ed0b901791d4f6c231e"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" src="http://c.shld.net/rpx/i/s/pi/mp/4130/4973490101p?src=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.auctionworks.com%2Fhi%2F8%2F7605%2F11td239.jpg&amp;amp;d=937fb4bb998a4bb3fe942ed0b901791d4f6c231e" style="cursor: pointer; float: right; height: 279px; margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; width: 279px;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;b&gt;Hoes showing offensive maturity; Nary a nugget at Norfolk&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is not a strong class of Orioles prospects at AA and AAA.  Currently, the group lacks a projected standout impact player and tops out with some potential fringe regulars.  At the same time, there is value in finding utility players, relief arms, fourth outfielders and back-end starters on the cheap when you are looking to build a cost effective Major League team -- and particularly when you have some young impact talent at the Major League level that will soon be hitting arbitration and considered for extension.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Bowie By the Numbers&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Record: 75 - 66&lt;br /&gt;Top Arm: Dan Klein (2010 Draft, 3rd Round)&lt;br /&gt;Top Bat: LJ Hoes (2008 Draft, 3rd Round)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Player of the Year&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;LJ Hoes (387 PA, 338 AB, .311/.385/.420, 17 2B, 1 3B, 6 HR, 43 BB, 55 SO)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Camden Depot made (minimal) waves in the blogosphere in 2008 when we listed &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;LJ Hoes&lt;/span&gt; as the 9th best Orioles prospect after his first professional season. Since then, he has steadily climbed prospect lists across the board, topping out at #3 for the Depot last year and #4 for the world renowned Baseball America.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In 2011, Hoes made the jump to Bowie after a sluggish start in Frederick. Accompanying his promotion was a position switch from second base to left field. While the Orioles' brass insists this was out of team need, rather than a decision that Hoes could not handle second, there were grumblings from pro scouts that the former St. Johns HS standout was not making the expected progress at the four-spot a month into his third full pro season. Ideally, he would shift back to second base in Bowie to start 2012 and Baltimore could get one last look at his outlook there. Hoes has the athleticism to stick in the infield, but has been tripped-up some by some finer points in the field, including set-up in his lower half, footwork around the bag, and lines.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Offensively, Hoes remains one of the top hit tools in the organization. He is very compact to contact, with a simple and quiet load, balanced lower-half and quick-twitch core. A keen batting eye helps Hoes to maintain a solid OBP while utilizing the whole field in attacking the ball in all quadrants. He has started to manifest in-game pop, and could see a breakout in that department next summer. While there isn't tons of physical projection left, he will hang a little more muscle on the frame, and the stronger hands and wrists at contact will marry with his bat speed to send some more balls to the gaps and over the fence. While some prospect reports were down on his 2011, Hoes still profiles as a potential everyday player -- be it at second base, third base or left field.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Players to know&lt;/u&gt;: &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Xavier Avery&lt;/span&gt; remains an upside prospect with promise, despite completing his third full season with strikeouts in over 20% of his plate appearances. The reason for optimism is simple -- he continues to be promoted by the O's and remains one of the youngest players in the league, year-in and year-out. He will start 2012 at age 22, and could get a bump to Norfolk following a solid AFL campaign and provided he shows well in the spring. A speed-first talent, Avery is among the fastest prospects in the system (along with Kyle Hudson and Glynn Davis -- all "80" runners on the 20/80 scouting scale). His heavy left/right split could spell a future as part of a platoon. If he can tighten-up his routes in center field, he should have easy value as a fourth outfielder. His ability to improve against lefties and to learn to more consistently ID off-speed will determine if he can become a regular at the highest level.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2011 Baltimore MiL Pitcher of the Year (Jim Palmer Award) winner &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Tim Bascom&lt;/span&gt; likely tops as a relief arm or swingman, despite the hardware earned off the solid 2011 stat line. Bascom projects to fringe-average across the board, with solid command and some idea as to how to sequence. His fastball is below-average and his breaking ball is generally short, soft or somewhere in between. His stuff leaves very little room for error, and he could be in for big statistical regression when he reaches Norfolk and has to go to work against a large number of hitters with Major League experience. His profile says "shrug", but you should still know a little about the Minor League Player of the Year for 2011.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Caleb Joseph&lt;/span&gt; followed a disappointing offensive 2010 with a similarly "meh" 2011. His command of the strikezone remains solid, but his bat control is lacking and the consistent hard contact simply is not there at Double-A. Around draft time he was projected to grow into average or slightly above-average power, but that growth has not come. He falls into a one-piece swing and too often makes contact out in front, sapping his power and leading to a fair amount of soft contact. Behind the plate, Joseph continues to improve. He blocks well, has quieted his receiving and has improved his catch-and-throw to the tune of an increase in his caught stealing from 26% in 2010 to 38% in 2011. Jospeh profiles as a back-up catcher with a bottom-third bat. Not an uncommon offensive profile for a back-up, but a bit shy of the potential shown in his first couple of seasons.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Dan Klein&lt;/span&gt; was a shutdown closer at UCLA with a history of shoulder issues. Baltimore saw the advanced four-pitch mix and sturdy 6-foot-3, 190-pound build and decided to develop him as a starter. The result was 32.1 dominant innings of baseball between Advanced-A Frederick and Double-A Bowie, including 10.3 SO/9 and just 1.7 BB/9, and a season-ending shoulder surgery. That means it has been four years now since Klein has surpassed 52 innings of in-game work -- the last time being his performance between his high school team and summer ball. It may be time to shift Klein to the pen full-time, where he could top out as a solid set-up man or second-division closer. When healthy, his low-90s fastball is a solid average pitch that serves to set-up and above-average 12/6 curve and mid-80s change. He has shown growth in his off-speed since his junior year as a Bruin, where he periodically left the pitch flat and up, where it was drivable. Klein will also flash a fringe-average slider with minimal depth and bite, but enough differential from his fastball to force soft contact if set-up properly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Joe Mahoney&lt;/span&gt; is a bat-first corner defender likely to end-up at first base or designated hitter, full time. He has some length to his swing, a not-insignificant leak entering his weight transfer and a moderate to heavy backside collapse, depending on the at bat. Prognosis? It's unlikely contact will be Mahoney's strong suit, and he could be quickly exposed at the Major League level, if not Triple-A. He projects as a bench bat or Four-A player.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this, &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Greg Miclat&lt;/span&gt;'s first full season at Double-A Bowie, the former Cavalier showed why he was signed by East Coast Area Scout Dean Albany for an overslot $225,000, in spite of significant shoulder and elbow issues through his sophomore and junior years at UVA. Miclat baffled opposing pitchers and catchers to the tune of a 54-of-57 stolen base record and top-of-the-order-worthy .371 OBP. While Miclat easily has the glove, arm and footwork to be an everyday second baseman, he likely tops out as a second-division regular or a first-division utility bat, due to the absence of any power. He'll be challenged early and often by ML arms, which will bite into his walks and likely limit him to a bottom-third bat profile.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Ronnie Welty&lt;/span&gt; has long been a Camden Depot favorite, after being inked in the 20th Round of the 2008 Draft by Area Scout John Gillette. Welty's promise has always been in his power potential, and over the last two seasons he has shown that pop -- launching 31 homeruns between Frederick and Bowie. Unfortunately, Welty's big leverage comes with an aggressive approach. That has equated to a strikeout about every three at bats, in 25-30% of his plate appearances. He is still drawing walks (with a BA/OBP delta of almost .100), but more advanced arms will be better equipped to play to Welty's weaknesses without having to pitch around the power. He should play an adequate right field at the highest level, and possesses more than enough arm to keep baserunners honest. He will attempt to hit the reset button on his offensive production in 2012, likely back at Bowie.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Rick Zagone&lt;/span&gt; may have reached his breaking point as a starter, struggling to miss bats while seeing his BB/9, H/9 and HR/9 rates increase with his promotion to Bowie. The side-arming lefty still has some potential as a lefty specialist, with righties making more hard contact against him than did lefties. Zagone also suffered through a tough July, showing signs of tiring out -- not surprising considering the increase in physical and mental demand inherent in a pitcher of his profile attacking Double-A line-ups twice through every five days. He should shift to the pen in 2012 and could begin his season either in Bowie or Norfolk.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Norfolk By the Numbers&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Record: 56 - 87&lt;br /&gt;Top Arm: Troy Patton (2004 Draft, 9th Round (Houston))&lt;br /&gt;Top Bat: Ryan Adams (2006 Draft, 2nd Round)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Player of the Year&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;Ryan Adams (415 PA, 377 AB, .284/.341/.454, 28 2B, 3 3B, 10 HR, 30 BB, 103 SO)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In 2008 Camden Depot rated &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Ryan Adams&lt;/span&gt; as the 25th best prospect in the system with a Four-A floor, a ceiling as an above-average offensive second baseman and a projected outcome as a below-average everyday second baseman. Three years later that evaluation remains spot on, as the former New Orleans High Schooler has slowly worked his way through the system, making his Major League debut this summer. While his 2011 at Norfolk was more "solid" than "eye popping", he essentially maintained his production from Bowie while cleaning-up his infield defense.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Offensively, Adams will swing and miss a fair amount due to average bat speed, and top velocity will likely always give him trouble. But he keeps his swing simple and tight, and finds ways to get the barrel to the ball. His raw power is above-average, with potential average in-game applicability. He could carveout a spot as a 6 or 7 hitter in a first division line-up if he finds enough gaps and is able to produce 15 or so homeruns per year.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Defensively, Adams still struggles with his footwork, though he has made strides in cleaning-up the set-up on his throws (which in turn has improved his play-to-play accuracy). He is the type of player that will always need to work to maintain an adequate defensive disposition, but could be making enough progress to be passable at either third base or second base. Adams could be adequate as an inexpensive bridge to Miclat, Hoes or Schoop, but probably profiles best as a bench bat and occasional starter at either second or third.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Players to know&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Matt Angle&lt;/span&gt; has arrived at Baltimore with largely the profile expected of him since he entered the system in 2007. Largely devoid of power, the former Buckeye center fielder fits best as a 4th outfielder capable of plus defense and solid value as a pinch runner. Like Adams, he could slot in as a placeholder in a starting lineup, but it is unlikely he will be able to handle Major League velocity on the inner-half to the point that he maintains even a passable on-base percentage. He should have the inside track on the 4th outfield spot, depending on what transpires this off-season, and could see significant innings as a late-inning defensive replacement, pinch runner and Sunday starter.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Kyle Hudson&lt;/span&gt;, like Angle, made his Major League debut this summer -- starting eight September games and appearing in six more as a defensive replacement, pinch runner or pinch hitter. The hope is that Hudson will eventually provide 4th outfield value along the lines of Matt Angle (though he is unlikely to have the defensive profile of Angle, who's feel for the game drives his plus glove). Hudson is a burner with 20 power on the 20/80 scale and will likely struggle to barrel much of any Major League pitching as a result of his uneven pitch-ID. Hudson should begin 2012 back in Norfolk as the starting center fielder, and is worth keeping an eye on to see if he can grow into even gap power.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After shifting to the pen and keeping Triple-A hitters off-balance for around 40 IP, &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Troy Patton&lt;/span&gt; made the most of his first extended look with the Big Club. While he will never be a strikeout specialist, he does have an ability to miss some bats thanks to a solid four-pitch arsenal. His fastball is generally an upper-80s offering, and is best at 87-89 with some armside life, though he'll push 90-92 with his four-seam. His most effective secondary is an upper-70s to low-80s slider that has good armslot deception and does a solid job missing barrels. His change-up gives him a weapon against lefties, thanks to solid fade, and he'll drop a curve as well to keep hitters honest. While he isn't the sexiest of prospects, Patton could be a valuable 7th or 8th inning arm, and should be a cheap bullpen option for the O's for the next couple of seasons.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-6175029471269859026?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/6175029471269859026/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=6175029471269859026' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/6175029471269859026'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/6175029471269859026'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/milb-year-in-review-bowie-baysox-and.html' title='MiLB Year in Review: Bowie Baysox and Norfolk Tides'/><author><name>Nick J Faleris</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12413352719310759010</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-6771516790426500431</id><published>2011-11-12T07:16:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-13T07:54:27.614-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shepherd'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='SS'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 offseason'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 Free Agency'/><title type='text'>Free Agents - Shortstop</title><content type='html'>This is the fourth of a series of posts on free agents.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;C | 1B | 2B | 3B | SS | LF | CF | RF | DH | SP | RHRP | LHRP    &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: right; margin-left: 1em; text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Nym2cc2dEqw/TgCpa5nipXI/AAAAAAAAAdg/r8PbqnpzevM/s1600/JoseReyes090608063944.gif" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Nym2cc2dEqw/TgCpa5nipXI/AAAAAAAAAdg/r8PbqnpzevM/s320/JoseReyes090608063944.gif" width="259" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Reyes is the jewel of the SS Market&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;For the sake of completeness, we will look at shortstop.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the purpose of this post, we are using the following groupings:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;Elite: Greater than 4.5 WAR / 600 PA&lt;br /&gt;Good: 3.5 to 4.5 WAR / 600 PA&lt;br /&gt;Above Average: 2.5 to 3.5 WAR / 600 PA&lt;br /&gt;Average: 1.5 to 2.5 WAR / 600 PA&lt;br /&gt;Poor Starter: 0.75 to 1.5 WAR / 600 PA&lt;br /&gt;Backup: Below 0.75 WAR / 600 PA&lt;/blockquote&gt;No one below a projected 0.75 WAR should be offered anything more than a minor league contract with an invite to training camp.&amp;nbsp; The values were calculated by weighting performance of the past three seasons normalized each year to 600 PA.&amp;nbsp; This ranking does not consider injury status which will likely affect some players.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Elite (greater than 4.5 WAR / 600 PA)&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Jose Reyes (4.7)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It looks as if the Mets will not be resigning Reyes.&amp;nbsp; Whoever signs him should have premium performance at short for several years.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Good (3.5 to 4.5 WAR / 600 PA)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;J.J. Hardy (4.2)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If Hardy could actually get to the plate 600 times, he would projects as a 4.2 WAR player.&amp;nbsp; He could be the most valuable player on the team.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Above Average (2.5 to 3.5 WAR / 600 PA)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Jamey Carroll (3.2)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Carroll's ability to get on base along with his ability to play shortstop adequately makes him a potential option here.&amp;nbsp; However, tweeners like Carroll always teeter on being completely unable to competently play shortstop.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Nick Punto (3.1)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Punto's ability to rank high here is a primarily due to his offensive performance last year.&amp;nbsp; I doubt his ability to truly give above average performance at this position.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Jimmy Rollins (2.8)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rollins' offensive has taken a hard turn downward, but he still plays a decent shortstop.&amp;nbsp; The low baseline for short keeps Rollins in the conversation as an above average shortstop.&amp;nbsp; His past performance though may encourage a team to pay him more than he is worth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Clint Barmes (2.6)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Barmes can play SS solidly and show some power.&amp;nbsp; He could potentially be a decent starter.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Average (1.5 to 2.5 WAR / 600 PA)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Rafael Furcal (2.4)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This projection does not adequately account for his injury issues.&amp;nbsp; I would value him far less than this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Ramon Santiago (2.2)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Tigers do not see him as a starter, but the numbers suggest otherwise.&amp;nbsp; He could be a cheap and effective option for a team who needs to fill a hole at short.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Jerry Hairston Jr (2.0)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hairston cannot defend the position well, but his bat carries him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Edgar Renteria (1.8)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Renteria is on the downside of his career.&amp;nbsp; He will likely put up performance below this measure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Poor Starter (0.75 to 1.5 WAR / 600 PA)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Alex Gonzalez (1.5)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gonzalez has had one good season and two awful ones.&amp;nbsp; One is more probable than the other.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Robert Andino (1.2)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Andino does not field well enough or hit well enough.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Ronny Cedeno (1.0)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cedeno is a utility infielder, no more.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;The Rest (less than 0.75 WAR / 600 PA)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;John MacDonald (0.7), Orlando Cabrera (0.7), Craig Counsell (0.4), Yuniesky Betancourt (0.2), Jack Wilson (0.0), and Cesar Izturis (-0.3).&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-6771516790426500431?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/6771516790426500431/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=6771516790426500431' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/6771516790426500431'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/6771516790426500431'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/free-agents-shortstop.html' title='Free Agents - Shortstop'/><author><name>Jon Shepherd</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Nym2cc2dEqw/TgCpa5nipXI/AAAAAAAAAdg/r8PbqnpzevM/s72-c/JoseReyes090608063944.gif' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-8021643491640438861</id><published>2011-11-10T07:00:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-13T08:06:18.888-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='front office'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='general'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faleris'/><title type='text'>Evaluating the front office: Channel your inner Rumsfeld</title><content type='html'>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01404/rumsfeld_1404848c.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float: right; margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; cursor: pointer; width: 358px; height: 224px;" src="http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01404/rumsfeld_1404848c.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;"[T]here are known knowns; there are things we know we know.&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some&lt;br /&gt;things we do not know.&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know. ”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;— Former United States Secretary of Defense &lt;strong&gt;Donald Rumsfeld&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Andy MacPhail&lt;/span&gt; ends his tenure as President of Baseball Operations in Baltimore, and &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Dan Duqette&lt;/span&gt; takes over the front office reigns, a poll of the dwindling Orioles fanbase would reveal no shortage of opinions on both MacPhail's performance and the pros and cons of Duqette's selection as his replacement. Skim through an Orioles message board and you are sure to find a laundry list of misteps taken by MacPhail in his shaping of the organization and declarations as to what steps Duquette will be taking to point the O's in the right direction. This should not be a surprise, as the bloggers and message boarders have been vocal for the last month with strong opinions on "the right man for the job", despite the fact that 99% of these bloviators are not even sure what differentiates the various candidates (or current GMs, for that matter).  The critiques do not stop at the top.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Scouting directors? Your draft classes are lambasted by fans before the second day of selections has been completed, and you can expect numerous blogs to explain just how good or bad a job you did by the end of the week (after reading-up on the draftees from the same three or four sources). Also, MLBDraftExperts.wordpress.com will explain to you why you never pick a high school pitcher between picks 6 and 22, and why you just "don't get it" when it comes to overslot spending.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Minor League development staff? God help you if your team's prospects do not show up on the right internet rankings (and there are a lot of them these days). Such a shortcoming will make it clear to all that you do not know how to do your job, and are incapable of developing true impact Major League talent. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Managers? Ignore the horde of Twitter users wring their collective hands over a stolen base attempt, pitching change or (gasp!) a post game comment that Player B was "clutch" for you this evening. Yes, apparently you are one of the least informed baseball minds around and have no business discussing baseball, let alone managing a Major League team. But that doesn't mean you should have to have that pointed out to you by @FutureGM, @MLBProspectGuru or @KingofDaBronx.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Players? You should not ignore Twitter. If you check-in during the game you will be instantly informed as to what is wrong with your swing/pitching mechanics by numerous experts who have all been studying the finer points of swing and pitching mechanics for several years via YouTube, MiLB.tv, fuzzy animated GIFs and some "scouting" articles from various internet hotspots. In fact, after striking out, your first move probably should not be a convo with your hitting coach or teammates, or a trip to the video equipment in the office just down the tunnel. It should be to your smart phone -- consider downloading the TweetDeck app.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The reverse is true as well. Get the right endorsement from the right sportswriter (usually someone who uses "WAR" and "xFIP" -- though not necessarily providing the proper context while doing so) and you will have an army of internet experts championing you on their blogs and podcasts. Once hired, you will be showered with the sort of whole-hearted adulation that can only sprout from a place of naivety. Is it important that Sportswriter's endorsement came, at least in part, because, well, you were one of the nice front office folk who would chat regularly with him and occasionally swap some info? Shrug.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It is commonly accepted that there is more information available to the public today than ever before. As a result, each year fans are presented with new statistical metrics for evaluating player performance, opinion pieces from internet sportswriters ranging from one-person shops to mega-corporations like MLB or ESPN, and more video and photographs than any one person could possibly know what to do with. Formerly-niche outfits such as Baseball America and Baseball Prospectus have ramped-up their coverage of Minor League prospects and stat-heavy analysis, respectively, which in turn has continued to spur more focused interest among the most zealous of baseball fans -- not coincidentally, these are the fans most likely to be Tweeting, blogging, message boarding and otherwise opining on baseball matters out there in the ether. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So what? More information is always a good thing, right? Maybe si; maybe no. You can never have too much GOOD information. But without a proper filter, you run the risk of too much static in your data pool for it to be of any practical utility. Further, the presence of "information" across the web-scape has given the illusion to many that they have the evidence they need to reach conclusions about nearly every aspect of professional baseball. This includes in-game management, prospect rankings, player critiques at the Major League and Minor League (and even college/high school) levels, front office administration, draft strategy and execution, and the like. The reality is that most writers/message boarders do not have the RIGHT information to form strong opinions about many of these things -- this is particularly true when it comes to the front office.&lt;/p&gt;Mr. MacPhail and Mr. Jordan were dinged left and right by bloggers by the end of their tenure in Baltimore. That can of worms need not be opened again, but it may be useful to look at the first week under Mr. Duquette to try and get a point across.  The comments most frequently circulating the web regarding Mr. Duquette indicate that the internet experts consider him to be the right man to rejuvenate Baltimore's efforts in Latin America and to fix the player development system in order to provide a steady flow of Minor League talent to the Major League club. The evidence? Well, he signed a number of international free agents with Montreal back in the early-90s (including &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Vlad Guerrero&lt;/span&gt;) and there are a number of draft picks made under his watch in Boston that turned into Major Leaguers with some value (including &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Kevin Youkilis&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Freddy Sanchez&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;David Eckstein&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Justin Duchscherer&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Carl Pavano&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Adam Everett&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Kelly Shoppach&lt;/span&gt; -- list compiled by "FrobbY", a message board poster at Orioles Hangout).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Setting aside the fact that the list is not as impressive as it is made out to be in the message board convos, what is known about this list? Channeling your inner-Rumsfeld you can quickly determine what this list tells you, and what it does not tell you. Then, you can figure out whether the info tells enough to act as a foundation for an opinion on the matter as a whole.&lt;/p&gt;Things we know:  These are players Boston brought into their system during Dan Duqette's term as General Manager.  There is positive "WAR" value with this collection that is comparable or better than certain other GMs during that same time span. Baltimore has not been as successful (measured by WAR) in graduating Minor League talent to their Major League club over the last 14 years.  The players listed had to be developed in some form in order to make the jump from draft day to their Major League careers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Known unknowns (things that we know we do not know):  What was Boston's process for identifying amateur talent at the time (division of responsibilities between area scouts, bird dogs, regional supervisors, cross-checkers, scouting director, general manager)? What role did Mr. Duquette (as general manager) play in creating the process used by Boston? To what extent did Mr. Duquette drive the decision to draft players in lower round (for example, one organization in particular operates such that the scouting director is the driving force in player selection, and he gives a lot of weight to the opinion of area scouts when it comes to lower round picks, as those scouts have seen more of the players in question than has the cross-checkers or scouting director)?  Would Boston's process under Mr. Duquette still be effective in today's game? Would the Minor League player development process still be effective in today's game? What has changed? Of the "newer" philosophies relating to player (and particularly pitcher) maintenance, does Mr. Duquette subscribe to certain innings limits, pitch counts, focus on one defensive position versus two, and the like? Heck, what are ANY of Mr. Duquette's detailed thoughts on these issues? Who will his scouting director be? Who will his Head of Minor League Development be?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unknown unknowns (things we do not know we do not know): Did you know that different organizations use different scout sheets and place different weight on different player attributes? Did you know some organizations literally chart every pitch of every game at large showcases/tournaments at the high school level? Did you know some organizations go out of their way to get specific video of players they are sitting on? Did you know some organizations have no formal process for charting games and no policy for recording video of players? Did you know that many, if not most, of the draft boards (preference lists) for Major League clubs do not look exactly like Baseball America's or Keith Law's? Did you know the approach to developing players varies across organizations to an incredible degree? Did you know that some organizations do not even have a uniform approach across levels for teaching the game?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you are a savvy baseball fan you may know most or all of the "Unknown unknowns" listed above. Believe that the list of things the typical, or even knowledgeable, fan does not know is pages longer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taking your knowns, known unknowns, and unknown unknowns into account, what does the list of drafted players tell you about Mr. Duquette and his prospects for success in restoring Baltimore's draft/sign/develop system? If you are honest, it does not tell you much.  In fact, anyone extrapolating any significant positive or negative vibes from the hiring at this point is likely doing so to fit a narrative they have already subscribed to. Maybe it is a desire to be optimistic about their team, particularly in a dark time in the franchise's history. Maybe it's a desire to be pessimistic about an organization that has jaded a majority of its fanbase. Maybe a prospect hound loves the idea of having an exciting system and wants to believe Mr. Duquette is potentially the key to creating such a system in Baltimore. And probably the most common impetus for many bloggers and message boarders, maybe an internet "expert" just likes to have a strong opinion and to appear in the know, regardless of topic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This blog entry (self aware) is not intended to be a lash out against other bloggers, message boarders, sports writers or, more generally, sports fans. It is simply a call for all of us to take a step back and think about what evidence we really have when we decide to shoot out our opinions over the internet. Think about what you know, think about what you know you do not know, consider the existence of other info you might not know exists, and proceed with some thought and responsibility.  Sports are meant to be fun, to spark conversations -- to excite. Drying up all sports talk because the participants are not 100% certain of their views is not the goal. You do not have to be 100% certain of anything before you share a thought.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When your thought involves mudslinging against front office execs, such as Mr. MacPhail, Mr. Jordan, and maybe even Mr. Duquette a year or two from now, however, you may want to get as close to that 100% as possible before hurling your insults. That, or curb the vitriol just a bit.  At some point the internet put fans under the impression that running a baseball team is easy.  It isn't, and the "fixes" for a troubled organization such as Baltimore are not nearly as obvious as they appear.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2893512317902577458-8021643491640438861?l=camdendepot.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/feeds/8021643491640438861/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2893512317902577458&amp;postID=8021643491640438861' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/8021643491640438861'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2893512317902577458/posts/default/8021643491640438861'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2011/11/evaluating-front-office-channel-your.html' title='Evaluating the front office: Channel your inner Rumsfeld'/><author><name>Nick J Faleris</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12413352719310759010</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-1814961948038292345</id><published>2011-11-09T06:08:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-13T07:54:44.635-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shepherd'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 offseason'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2B'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012 Free Agency'/><title type='text'>Free Agents - Second Base</title><content type='html'>This is the third of a series of posts on free agents.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;C | 1B | 2B | 3B | SS | LF | CF | RF | DH | SP | RHRP | LHRP    &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is with sadness that I must say that I have no expectation that Brian Roberts will ever be a meaningful part of the Baltimore Orioles on the field.&amp;nbsp; Effort must be given to replace him at second.&amp;nbsp; In this post, we will look at available free agent options and who the Orioles have internally.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the purpose of this post, we are using the following groupings:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;Elite: Greater than 4.5 WAR / 600 PA&lt;br /&gt;Good: 3.5 to 4.5 WAR / 600 PA&lt;br /&gt;Above Average: 2.5 to 3.5 WAR / 600 PA&lt;br /&gt;Average: 1.5 to 2.5 WAR / 600 PA&lt;br /&gt;Poor Starter: 0.75 to 1.5 WAR / 600 PA&lt;br /&gt;Backup: Below 0.75 WAR / 600 PA&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: right; margin-left: 1em; text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://mccheap.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/160456_rockies_dodgers_spring_baseball.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://mccheap.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/160456_rockies_dodgers_spring_baseball.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Jamey Carroll might be a good target.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;No one below a projected 0.75 WAR should be offered anything more than a minor league contract with an invite to training camp.&amp;nbsp; The values were calculated by weighting performance of the past three seasons normalized each year to 600 PA.&amp;nbsp; This ranking does not consider injury status which will likely affect some players.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Good (3.5 - 4.5 WAR / 600 PA)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Kelly Johnson (3.5)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have thought well of Johnson for a while, but no one seems to think of him as a good player.&amp;nbsp; I might be missing something.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Above Average (2.5 - 3.5 WAR / 600 PA)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Jamey Carroll (3.2)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Carroll is another second baseman who has flown under that radar.&amp;nbsp; He provides very good defense and simply gets on base.&amp;nbsp; He is not flashy whatsoever, but he does the little things well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Nick Punto (3.2)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Punto has always had an amazing glove.&amp;nbsp; It gives him a great deal of value.&amp;nbsp; Much of his projection here has to do with his hitting performance this past season.&amp;nbsp; I think the projection is overly inflated.&amp;nbsp; I think he is a good example of using projection as a rough number that needs to be used with other tools.&amp;nbsp; Statistics alone, or any tool alone, is not a good way to make decisions.&amp;nbsp; That said, a metric rating a player higher than you expected sometimes gives you pause and reconsider the players' worth.&amp;nbsp; Personally, I think he very good year at the plate last year does not accurately portray his true talent level and skews the projection.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Jerry Hairston Jr. (2.6)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hairston has a decent bat and he can still provide above average defense at second.&amp;nbsp; He has recently been used as a super-sub, but he really belongs at second.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Average (1.5 - 2.5 WAR / 600 PA)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Clint Barmes (2.2)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Barmes provides some power and excellent defense at second.&amp;nbsp; It made little sense for the Astros making him untouchable during the deadline, but he can produce.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Mark Ellis (2.1)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;During the summer, Ellis was rumored as a player the Orioles were scouting thoroughly with plans of signing him in the off season.&amp;nbsp; Hopefully, it would be cheap if they do engage because he will be 35 and coming off a poor season.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Aaron Hill (1.8)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After two underwhelming seasons, Hill bounced back last year.&amp;nbsp; It looked like a last hurrah to me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Below Average (0.75 - 1.5 WAR / 600 PA)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Adam Kennedy (1.2)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;His projection is due almost entirely to his 2009 season.&amp;nbsp; Not a good indication.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Willie Bloomquist (1.1)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bloomquist is a more athletic version of Cuddyer with a much lesser bat.&amp;nbsp; He plays several positions and none of them well.&lt;br /&g
