tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post8037361255048948948..comments2024-01-06T02:22:33.000-05:00Comments on Camden Depot: O's Logically Decide to Let Nick Markakis WalkJon Shepherdhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-72433917353470682282014-12-08T14:48:56.940-05:002014-12-08T14:48:56.940-05:00As mentioned in the article, I agree with the qual...As mentioned in the article, I agree with the qualifying offer point.<br /><br />I'm not sure what "crying poverty" has to do with not re-signing Markakis. Plenty of analysts are criticizing the Braves' decision-making on this signing. It's also not as if Markakis is some irreplaceable player at this point in his career.Matt Kremnitzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15693430925266947705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-43547369842261923302014-12-07T14:10:38.475-05:002014-12-07T14:10:38.475-05:00The Orioles underestimated the desire of other tea...The Orioles underestimated the desire of other teams to actually spend money. Meanwhile; they cry poverty. Despite 3 winning seasons, there's still a lot of ground to be made up. A look at the average attendance (about 15,000 off the peak) tells you that.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00233291450231021816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-37212654445407628232014-12-07T12:51:51.074-05:002014-12-07T12:51:51.074-05:00There was no excuse for not picking up his option ...There was no excuse for not picking up his option and not make him a qualifying offer though. First off, they should have picked up their part of the mutual option to avoid the buyout. Then they should have offered a qualifing offer: If he accepts, Markakis on a 1 year 15 million deal is fine and a big upgrade over whatever RF they will get. If he declines, then they get a first round draft pick. The whole process seemed sillyAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08059412303229188487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-7373657215471853952014-12-05T17:16:11.836-05:002014-12-05T17:16:11.836-05:00That looser Matusz had a sub 2 ERA in the second h...That looser Matusz had a sub 2 ERA in the second half. Not a great pitcher, but you could do a lot worse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-69387892547927810872014-12-05T13:27:26.266-05:002014-12-05T13:27:26.266-05:00If we keep that schmuck/loser Matusz, I'm bolt...If we keep that schmuck/loser Matusz, I'm bolting. Not worth seeing the O's lose time after time in critical situations. The jury's out on Britton as a go-to reliever as well. They should have pushed hard to keep Miller as a closer, which apparently they're not and pushed Britton back to a setup role. Maybe he'll repeat the 90% success rate from last year...maybe he won't, but I'd love to see Miller as the closer. He's got more moxie than Britton. Now we'll never know.<br /><br />Shoulda tried to keep Cruz too. Markakis is def on the downside of his career...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-61795279508708216342014-12-05T00:06:02.757-05:002014-12-05T00:06:02.757-05:00I believe Cruz and Markakais did us a favor in the...I believe Cruz and Markakais did us a favor in the long term by leaving. We have over paid Nick for several years and I do not believe Cruz will come close to what he did last year. I believe we will miss Nick in the short term but long term I think it may be for the best.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-3029285450432476822014-12-04T20:22:31.313-05:002014-12-04T20:22:31.313-05:00Jamie Moyer pitched well into his 40s. His example...Jamie Moyer pitched well into his 40s. His example is not typical. Exceptions exist but we must remember them as exceptions as opposed to stars one might wish upon. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-76151979031299728452014-12-04T19:02:11.425-05:002014-12-04T19:02:11.425-05:00Good article for sure....just gotta remember that ...Good article for sure....just gotta remember that when it is said that Markakis is on his way to decline at 31....that the O's got a washed up Frank Robinson from the Reds at 31....not comparing Robinson to Markakis just the age reference...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-18088704163298336362014-12-04T13:11:27.985-05:002014-12-04T13:11:27.985-05:00Markakis was good, not great. Watching him during ...Markakis was good, not great. Watching him during the Royals series, he looked disinterested and without confidence. It will be good for him to go to Atlanta. <br /><br />O's should definitely pick up a starting pitcher.bCueto or Tehran. Then jettison Jimenez and Chen for a Lefty. <br /><br />Keep Delmon and bee could still be in the hunt. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-28570790059042849372014-12-04T12:34:53.761-05:002014-12-04T12:34:53.761-05:00Thanks for putting out a reasonable discussion I c...Thanks for putting out a reasonable discussion I can point my less reasonable fellow Orioles fans to. I can't help how different the last few years would have been if Markakis had sustained his 2008 production. Alas, he turned into a fairly average player. I understand why a lot of Os fans are upset and why they have a fondness for Nick. He was, after all, the first position player they drafted and developed that actually played an impact on their winning teams of the last three years. However, signing a bunch of guys in their 30s to overpriced deals is one of the reasons they had 14 straight losing seasons, so I'm ok with holding off on that kind of move. I will hate to see Nick in another team's uniform, but not as much as I would have hated to see him perform poorly and contribute to an Os team that was headed back for the basement.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07129461114428343431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-9816157952846413692014-12-04T09:38:23.160-05:002014-12-04T09:38:23.160-05:00I seriously doubt the Orioles sign Chris Davis to ...I seriously doubt the Orioles sign Chris Davis to any kind of long-term deal. That's just a hunch. But depending on what kind of 2015 he has, he could be looking at a large payday. That type of deal just seems too risky.<br /><br />I could see them re-signing Matt Wieters, though. I'm not sure he's worth the type of money Russell Martin is going to receive, but I wouldn't be surprised if he got close to it.Matt Kremnitzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15693430925266947705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-26115505043552703762014-12-04T09:28:55.032-05:002014-12-04T09:28:55.032-05:00The difference between this year's division ch...The difference between this year's division champs and the prior years teams has been starting pitching. If the pitching can hold up or improve, our chances are not that bad.<br /><br />Wieters, Davis, and Machado improved production over 2014 will help offset the losses of Cruz and Markakis. Truth is, Cruz was not going to repeat his career year - he is due for major regression, as Davis regressed after his own career year. Markakis production will not be hard to replace. Both of these guys shouldn't have been counted on in 2015 for huge years.<br /><br />What I would like to see is some Jon Lester here. Followed by a trade of Jimenez and/or Chen for some offense.Statistics Don't Lienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-54737355021116001882014-12-04T08:51:51.199-05:002014-12-04T08:51:51.199-05:00MLBTR put out a 4-year chart for all the teams in ...MLBTR put out a 4-year chart for all the teams in baseball but it only included known salaries. I have us at about 70 million for 2016 presuming that we don't resign any of our free agents and that we DFA Matusz.<br /><br />Here's the thing. I have the Orioles at $106M after arbitration. Swartz's numbers have us at $110M. With Matusz coming back the only open spot on the 25 man is at DH. <br /><br />If we keep Norris and Matusz then we probably only have $10M or so remaining. Enough to add a DH like Morse or an outfielder like Aoki. Probably not both.<br /><br />Os fans are not going to be happy.Matt Perezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16191574755038653061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-89084926059245712162014-12-04T07:22:53.661-05:002014-12-04T07:22:53.661-05:00This could be a prelude to re-signing Wieters and/...This could be a prelude to re-signing Wieters and/or Davis. At some point you have to budget your future spending, and if Markakis wanted a contract that stepped into Manny Machado's arbitration days too far, then that could be a problem for the team. It would be interesting to see what a 4-year chart of expected player expense for core players is. I have not seen a chart like that for the Orioles anywhere.Eriknoreply@blogger.com