tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post7405038607176846609..comments2024-01-06T02:22:33.000-05:00Comments on Camden Depot: First-Place Orioles Obviously Aren't Sellers, But Should They Buy?Jon Shepherdhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-47765838963411551392016-07-25T16:45:15.560-04:002016-07-25T16:45:15.560-04:00Kim and a minor league pitcher for Cam Bedrosian, ...Kim and a minor league pitcher for Cam Bedrosian, or Addison Reed......otherwise the Blue Jays will pick up a shut down middle reliever and make it a tough contest....two cents worth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-25985713481351302362016-07-23T00:23:33.232-04:002016-07-23T00:23:33.232-04:00Looks like the O's are going to make the trade...Looks like the O's are going to make the trade I suggested and they won't even have to include Reimold. Looks like Upton and Jimenez are the center pieces. They are speculating Cashner but I bet it ends in Hand. And I bet the O's put in Wright and Walker and a fairly highly considered lower minors prospect (Bridwell? Kline? Connaughton? Leyva?). Ha! Good guess, huh?Rogernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-84263551039734425762016-07-19T09:33:23.055-04:002016-07-19T09:33:23.055-04:00I would talk to the Angels about Matt Shoemaker an...I would talk to the Angels about Matt Shoemaker and Hector Santiago. Shoemaker has been lights out the last month or so and he is under contract for a few more years. Santiago would isn't great but also not terrible. Plus he would give us a lefty. Not sure what Shoemaker's value would be. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05997407889502768543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-1827359805710489422016-07-18T10:26:36.014-04:002016-07-18T10:26:36.014-04:00Maybe the ticket to the World Series this year is ...Maybe the ticket to the World Series this year is to bring Andrew Miller back and get Brach Givens and Miller to pitch 2 innings twice a week. There is too much risk with Hill, Moore, or Erwin Santana. O'Day and Brittan would be the closing tandem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-17127421929406410592016-07-18T08:08:51.048-04:002016-07-18T08:08:51.048-04:00I don't think the O's have enough to give ...I don't think the O's have enough to give up to land Moore or any other quality starter. I think Bundy is their best bet. He needs a little more movement on his fastball, but he gave them 70 quality pitches today. Another 2-3 starts and he should be able to give them 6 innings an outing. But heck, going 3 1/3 is better than Ubaldo.<br /><br />Get 7 from Gausman today and a win and everything is fine. This team is going to be living on the edge the rest of the way. Ken Everetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03881439934480369962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-79540183290398920802016-07-17T20:31:18.792-04:002016-07-17T20:31:18.792-04:00I'm scared of Bundy in the rotation. Only beca...I'm scared of Bundy in the rotation. Only because the team has put an innings cap on him. I don't want to lose him down the stretch or in the playoffs because he has reached his innings. He didn't throw terrible today. Made a couple bad pitches that were hit for home runs. Arcia's home run was about 6 inches outside the strike zone low and away. Liked seeing his velocity back up.<br /><br />However, we still need another arm. My #1 target would be Matt Moore. He is under contract for a couple more years and gives us a lefty in the rotation. Tampa Bay said they would't trade in division with Boston so I'm not sure that would change with us. If we can't get him then everyone else available is pretty much the same, outside of Sonny Gray- but I doubt we have what it takes to get him. The O's have to do something though. If we can add another good arm and Gausman/Gallardo can become consistent then the O's move to the head of the pack in the AL.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05997407889502768543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-57505424721943889652016-07-17T01:09:25.744-04:002016-07-17T01:09:25.744-04:00That's amazing; I had no idea that Detroit was...That's amazing; I had no idea that Detroit was interested in him. I thought that with Davis the Orioles were essentially bidding against themselves.vilnius b.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02872502926590063013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-6489074486460166842016-07-15T18:29:11.473-04:002016-07-15T18:29:11.473-04:00Let's all take a deep breath and remember that...Let's all take a deep breath and remember that the Detroit owner wanted to throw about 30 million more at Davis before his baseball ops implored him to sign Justin Upton instead.Jon Shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-65832338066357975312016-07-15T08:21:42.051-04:002016-07-15T08:21:42.051-04:00Two things. First, I don't understand the cri...Two things. First, I don't understand the criticism of Wieters, he is known for his ability to handle pitchers and call games. Buck has praised him as such. Tillman and Gausman are having good years with Wieters catching. Joseph was catching Ubaldo because he is the better defensive catcher and on any given Ubaldo night you have no idea where that ball is going but to act like Wieters is the inferior handler is ridiculous.<br /><br />In terms of Davis, the guy is what he is. He is a plus defender, a low average hitter, and one of the few guys in the post-roid era who can hit 40+ home runs. You overpay because he is a 40+ home run threat and a plus defender.<br /><br />What Trumbo is doing is exceeding anybody's wildest expectations. But to try and bet long-term on this is the equivalent of buying high. Trumbo's typical numbers are 20-30 home runs. He and Davis are almost exactly the same age, so if you want to follow the age curve, you'd rather bet on Davis at this point starting from the higher peak.Ken Everetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03881439934480369962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-81126986587628502182016-07-15T06:40:19.947-04:002016-07-15T06:40:19.947-04:00Basically nothing has changed between now and when...Basically nothing has changed between now and when the Orioles re-signed Chris Davis for a dump truck full of money in the offseason. He's not having an amazing season, but he's certainly having a productive one. It looked like an overpay then, and it still does now. But he's helping the Orioles win now, which I guess was the main goal of keeping him around.Matt Kremnitzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15693430925266947705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-60588116874608848312016-07-15T02:21:32.403-04:002016-07-15T02:21:32.403-04:00I have to agree with that. You're not going t...I have to agree with that. You're not going to get rid of Davis with that contract, even if much of the money is deferred. <br />And that's too bad. Trumbo has been a revelation this season in large part because he's chasing fewer pitches outside of the strike zone. In other words, even though his walk rate still is poor, he's a more selective hitter now than he's ever been. And since he has demonstrated in the past that he's a decent defensive first baseman, he wouldn't hurt the Orioles there defensively as much as he does playing right field.<br />But hindsight is 20/20 and I don't think the Orioles realized they were getting such a productive bat. <br />As for the Joseph/Wieters debate: Joseph is indeed a better pitch framer; that's clear to the naked eye. And he too has a cannon for an arm. But you have to play Wieters because he's the better bat and it appears that the Orioles are going to have to slug their way (with enormous contributions from the bullpen) to the playoffs.<br />Now that Pomeranz has been traded to the Red Sox, thus effectively ending any wild speculation about his ending up in Baltimore, the question is: whom should the Orioles target? Rich Hill? Hellickson? And what would the cost be?vilnius b.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02872502926590063013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-66823735998167119662016-07-14T16:51:10.482-04:002016-07-14T16:51:10.482-04:00That's a lot of criticism of Wieters, although...That's a lot of criticism of Wieters, although him getting dinged for framing is nothing new. Joseph is probably the better overall defender when factoring in framing, but it doesn't matter when he's hitting like he is. So I'm not sure of the rationale to get Joseph extra at-bats. I also don't think Wieters is a better hitter than Alvarez. Besides, this team is set up to give Alvarez and Trumbo the DH at-bats.<br /><br />Get rid of Davis? That's pretty funny.<br /><br />Matt Kremnitzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15693430925266947705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-11180849971814525872016-07-14T14:56:16.518-04:002016-07-14T14:56:16.518-04:00Since he is unwilling to go other way and seems no...Since he is unwilling to go other way and seems not to listen to a coach or watch Kim when he hits [most of our team could learn from him] --get rid of Davis and his ballerina swings...he could get us some kind of better 2nd or 3rd starter we have currently. Tired of watching this steamer carry the bat back to dugout without moving a runner.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-38802804284456885382016-07-14T14:52:49.042-04:002016-07-14T14:52:49.042-04:00One more thing about Wieters is that he is a big c...One more thing about Wieters is that he is a big catcher and he's 30. So it may benefit the Orioles if they DH him two or three times a week. He's a better hitter than Alvarez and Caleb could get the at bats to regain hitting confidence. Wieters would stay fresh for the post season and Caleb is a better defensive catcher anyway. Except that Matt has a cannon for an arm.<br />As far as the pitches called.....it sometimes puzzles me when they don't just throw gas to a batter who is hitting under .200.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-53028484101605395392016-07-14T14:34:50.489-04:002016-07-14T14:34:50.489-04:00Agree with Anonymous...Not only does Weiters prese...Agree with Anonymous...Not only does Weiters present a poor target, but looks to me like the dugout calls the pitches which is insane. Are they the catcher, do they feel they have better view or idea than Weiters or Joseph!<br /> Why is Weiters not calling the pitches or location? We make way too many mistakes in pitcher' counts. Why throw a breaking ball to weak hitters, why are they not going up and in more, at least up where it is very hard for batter to get good wood on fastball, let alone a lefty. I agrre we have only 1 starter with strikeout stuff [Gausman] but his games could be called better.<br />Only trade I would make is trade prospect or 2 for a minior league Pitching cooridinator from any of MLB organization that consistently grows there arms [Tampa, St. Louis, Pitt.].Our system has no idea how to - none of our guys have improved a lick up here, last good one was Mussina and that friends is the truth. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-43150421582960041432016-07-14T08:14:27.378-04:002016-07-14T08:14:27.378-04:00The fact is the Orioles don't have anyone to s...The fact is the Orioles don't have anyone to sell that would yield a quality starter unless they are willing to move Trumbo which reeks of the A's trading Cespedes a few years ago when Billy Bean outsmarted himself.<br /><br />Dylan Bundy is your back half rotation help. He can make 12+ starts for them down the stretch and probably give them quality starts. <br /><br />Bottom line is if they can get to the postseason Tillman, Gallardo, and Gausman are your rotation. Ken Everetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03881439934480369962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-18535374738943098152016-07-14T07:10:33.442-04:002016-07-14T07:10:33.442-04:00I think all of the current Orioles pitchers would ...I think all of the current Orioles pitchers would do better if Matt Wieters would present a good target for them with the glove. He uses a black and brown catchers mitt and he rarely shows a good target for two or three seconds before the pitcher throws. Caleb is much better at this than Matt, but Russell Martin of Toronto does a good job and I think gets the most out of his pitching staff. Wieters HAS to present a better target....plus Rich Hill or Pomeranz would be good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-6011394013871502212016-07-14T00:29:39.361-04:002016-07-14T00:29:39.361-04:00Matt Moore would be ideal and he's signed thro...Matt Moore would be ideal and he's signed through 2019. He would put us over the top for this year. The cost? The pickings are slim in the organization and we would be giving up the few quality youngsters we have. I believe Bundy will be a top line starter next year, however, we must find a left handed starter.20robinsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-84420344805020826442016-07-13T22:47:48.723-04:002016-07-13T22:47:48.723-04:00Sorry not Drew Jomar Reyes was who I was thinkingSorry not Drew Jomar Reyes was who I was thinkingAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17050004827892836691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-26988663635967806792016-07-13T22:45:27.202-04:002016-07-13T22:45:27.202-04:00We open up against the Rays and I wouldn't lea...We open up against the Rays and I wouldn't leave Tampa without Matt Moore. He controlled thru 2019 and I would trade Drew Dooch, Wright, and one more late prospect. By trading Drew to them it's leaves them open to trade Evan to let's say the Dodgers. Saves them money and could get a lot of prospects in return. The Rays are in a rebuild mode and this trade could help both parties. Honestly the best players to use in order to get Moore would be Drew, Chris Lee, and either Wright or Wilson. That way we could dump Jimenez and plug in a 5th starter somewhere Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17050004827892836691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-70431200650309728982016-07-13T22:45:25.227-04:002016-07-13T22:45:25.227-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17050004827892836691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-7438376258139250052016-07-13T21:07:50.652-04:002016-07-13T21:07:50.652-04:00Why would the Padres do that???
They get rid of a ...Why would the Padres do that???<br />They get rid of a terrible contract and a producing player( not producing much but a bit) and take on a horrible but smaller contract ties to a complete fiasco of a player. None of it makes sense for the Padres.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-19438989704960035762016-07-13T17:51:41.454-04:002016-07-13T17:51:41.454-04:00I am find with staying put. I would to see them go...I am find with staying put. I would to see them go to Dylan Bundy. He has learn to pitch in the big leagues and we can use our bullpen to pick up the extra inning. KC won with average at best pitching, great bullpen,defense, and timely hitting. I think our starting staff is better then the KC staff and we score more runs then the KC offense.David Wnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-87621453020249291112016-07-13T16:39:59.119-04:002016-07-13T16:39:59.119-04:00"In an interview earlier this season, Dan sai..."In an interview earlier this season, Dan said he doesn't care for the future, only the present, which explains his casual attitude towards drafting and the farm in general."<br /><br />In that case, here's a trade idea that could fix two issues at one: Send Duquette to Toronto for a starting pitcher! (/s)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-75497908082118170922016-07-12T11:13:15.083-04:002016-07-12T11:13:15.083-04:00I think that the biggest 'blockbuster' mov...I think that the biggest 'blockbuster' move out there for the Orioles this trade deadline probably lies with San Deigo, and it probably involves the Orioles taking on some money. The farm system is thin, and the Orioles could further deplete it, but if they're willing to take a financial hit to make a real push for a title, then they'd benefit short-term (by adding talent) and long-term (not giving up any future assets).<br /><br />I'm not sure just how close this is, but the skeleton of the deal would involve the Orioles sending Ubaldo Jiminez to the Padres while the Padres send the Orioles Pomeranz, Cashner, and the deadly Matt Kemp contract. Other things could be potentially added into the deal to make it work, but that's the general idea of it. Cashner/Pomeranz would instantly push up the floor of that rotation, while Kemp would be able to slide into a DH platoon role along with Alvarez, and would be around for the next 3 years (ugh, still 3 years on that contract?) in that role. For all of Kemp's warts, hitting a baseball isn't one of them.<br /><br />So, you'd be taking on (something close to) an extra 8 million (Kemp-Ubaldo) next year and 20 million in 2018/19. Is it worth it? Like I mentioned before, Kemp's not totally worthless, and DH would be the best place to put him, so... An overpay, yes, but perhaps that is fair payment for Cashner (making 7mil this year, FA to be) and Pomeranz (1.5mil this year, FA to be) and upgrading almost half of your disaster pitching staff.<br /><br />This feels like a deal the Orioles would never make, because of the money involved, but there would be a lot to be gained in the short term. Too much? Yea, sure, maybe. Would love a more analytic opinion on whether this is an interesting idea or completely bananas.Dustinnoreply@blogger.com