tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post590731638523139045..comments2024-01-06T02:22:33.000-05:00Comments on Camden Depot: A Wholly Unscientific Look at Matt Wieters's Defense Post-Tommy JohnJon Shepherdhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-66309748138132034632015-02-18T14:35:58.784-05:002015-02-18T14:35:58.784-05:00Following up on Anonymous on February 18th, Wieter...Following up on Anonymous on February 18th, Wieters may have wanted to, but may have lacked the coaching that he needed. Players are funny that way. A coach that works for one aspect, does not work for another. Or the coach can coach an aspect for one player but not another. Eriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-22570893554112444302015-02-18T12:25:58.383-05:002015-02-18T12:25:58.383-05:00Wieters has consistently demonstrated poor pitch-f...Wieters has consistently demonstrated poor pitch-framing skills (albeit with superior pitch-calling & throwing). <br />http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2013/12/the-degradation-of-wieters-pitch.html <br />I'm shocked this isn't a vocal priority of his considering his attention to all of the other details of catching.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-39453566312416663962015-02-14T17:38:28.336-05:002015-02-14T17:38:28.336-05:00I agree that Wieters, like all free agents, is lik...I agree that Wieters, like all free agents, is likely to be overpaid because the downside risks are likely to be underestimated. <br /><br />One factor to consider is what I think of as "stumbling around costs." (Coase would call them search costs.) How long until the Orioles get a catcher they are happy with, and how much time and money do they spend figuring it out? <br /><br />I am not thrilled with what I have been seeing in the framing stats for Wieters. Right now, the actual act of catching pitches is underpaid when it is done really well. Who knows? Some day Rick Dempsey may make the Hall-of-Fame when it is fully appreciated. Eriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-4033637686014007092015-02-14T13:43:11.936-05:002015-02-14T13:43:11.936-05:00Given the O's history with injuries and risk a...Given the O's history with injuries and risk avoidance even if Matt appears recovered very hard to seem them extend Matt in a very defined market (Martin, McCann, Molina) for catchers with Boras as his agent.<br /><br />Let's hope he is well and helps the O's on the field leading to him being flipped mid year or a QO.<br /><br />The same thing for Chris Davis. Risk aversion and/or Scott Boras lead me to the same conclusion that the best the O's will get is another year of Chris and a draft pick (or trade equivalent). Of course between Matt and Chris that frees another 20 million in salary for 2016.<br /><br />Assuming DD is still around in 2016 (still fifty/fifty its Toronto) then we will see how much creativity and freedom he has with eleven free agents staring him in the face as the roster is currently configured.<br /><br />It might be interesting to think how Billy Beane would do this because we are close to his level of turnover in the very near future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-35562640619985527882015-02-13T17:19:44.874-05:002015-02-13T17:19:44.874-05:00Yeah, it's way too early to say for sure in th...Yeah, it's way too early to say for sure in that regard. We know Davis can hit either extreme offensively, and for now, I'd say that makes him the riskiest long-term move. With that said, if Wieters comes back and throws out runners like he did last year, he almost certainly won't be worth whatever he receives.Ryan Romanohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17831177754232641404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-50618369683999649352015-02-13T15:06:10.700-05:002015-02-13T15:06:10.700-05:00The injury, for now, is the scary part. Of the big...The injury, for now, is the scary part. Of the big two (Wieters and Davis), I find Davis to be the more risky investment. I'd feel a lot better about Wieters if he comes back and looks good in 2015.Matt Kremnitzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15693430925266947705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-70699927323678291952015-02-13T14:49:51.231-05:002015-02-13T14:49:51.231-05:00Of all the impending FAs the Orioles have, Wieters...Of all the impending FAs the Orioles have, Wieters is the one I feel will be least worth what he will eventually be paid. <br /><br />Which could be an interesting article -- which impending Oriole free agent will be the best bargain?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07129461114428343431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-50384144749462888282015-02-13T11:53:07.372-05:002015-02-13T11:53:07.372-05:00I'm not sure Wieters is good enough offensivel...I'm not sure Wieters is good enough offensively to warrant significant money as a DH or 1B. If he can't catch, that's a huge problem.Matt Kremnitzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15693430925266947705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-82612077725246499392015-02-13T11:00:51.285-05:002015-02-13T11:00:51.285-05:00Matt's defense is surely a large part of his v...Matt's defense is surely a large part of his value in free agency. If it has not rebounded well enough, he may sign a 1-year contract and try for a LT version after his stock improves.<br /><br />I wonder if his value as a DH, or non-catcher (1B?) is enough to warrant a QO? A lot depends on his offensive performance in 2015, but at this juncture it seems pretty reasonable that he would accept a QO, IMO.Statistics Don't Lienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-53572856905717220002015-02-13T09:14:32.698-05:002015-02-13T09:14:32.698-05:00One nice thing is that Wieters does not chew tobac...One nice thing is that Wieters does not chew tobacco. Tobacco is associated with poor healing and a tendency to be injured again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com