tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post5600489740350119580..comments2024-01-06T02:22:33.000-05:00Comments on Camden Depot: Making the Orioles a Champion in 2014: Center FieldJon Shepherdhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-16468367986502400012013-10-19T11:03:12.539-04:002013-10-19T11:03:12.539-04:00Thank you for the well thought out response Anonym...Thank you for the well thought out response Anonymous.Jon Shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-67982574213732071042013-10-19T10:14:26.098-04:002013-10-19T10:14:26.098-04:00you people need to be drug tested again.Adam jones...you people need to be drug tested again.Adam jones is one of the best center fielders in the game.you don't get voted to the allstar team back to back,years being average.But I take comfort in knowing players and managers know a hell of a lot more than you idiots.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-89994778521490481282013-09-30T22:06:25.954-04:002013-09-30T22:06:25.954-04:00Enjoyed this article. Nice writing style.
I think ...Enjoyed this article. Nice writing style.<br />I think all would agree that CF is the absolute least of our worries, but it will be interesting to see what transpires on the corners.<br />Here's an enthusiastic vote for nate( Jeremy? An amen, please?)Philipnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-39398608539785457112013-09-30T21:14:20.699-04:002013-09-30T21:14:20.699-04:00Jones has a very strong arm; it's certainly st...Jones has a very strong arm; it's certainly stronger than Ellsbury's. But he doesn't have the most accurate arm, either. Still, when McLouth is in left and with Markakis's declining arm in right, Jones's arm looks like a rocket launcher at times in comparison.<br /><br />A strong arm is important, especially for a center fielder. But range is more important, and Ellsbury is much better than Jones in that area. <br /><br />The Orioles are not going to sign Ellsbury. I only brought his name up because I believe signing him would make the Orioles better. Buck Showalter isn't going to move Adam Jones away from center anytime soon.Matt Kremnitzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15693430925266947705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-2856315615287747392013-09-30T20:46:59.799-04:002013-09-30T20:46:59.799-04:00I've heard the idea bounced around (including ...I've heard the idea bounced around (including here, I htink) that Jones could move to a corner outfield position and we sign someone who is plus defensively and less prolific offensively to play center. Any thoughts on this idea?<br /><br />I don't think Buck will ask Jones to move until his range really starts to plummet, and I know Jones takes a lot of pride in playing center field, so this may not be realistic for a couple years. Liamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-62458576790881404222013-09-30T18:49:51.079-04:002013-09-30T18:49:51.079-04:00I am still trying to wrap my head around Jacoby El...I am still trying to wrap my head around Jacoby Ellsbury as a superior CF. He uses his speed to make up for errors in tracking balls over his head and he has the absolute weakest arm in CF in the majors. I don't know how this gets tracked but everyone, and I mean everyone takes the extra base on Ellsbury. He is a good contact singles/doubles hitter with speed. Maybe it's that magic Boston spin on players but he ain't worth anything near what he will command in salary. CF is not a big worry for the Orioles. skyeye44https://www.blogger.com/profile/06416740478896625480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-53824624324174942112013-09-30T18:04:08.514-04:002013-09-30T18:04:08.514-04:00One thing that the elite tier of free agency has b...One thing that the elite tier of free agency has become is a collection of very good players with red flags. If the red flags were not there then these guys would have been signed long term. That is almost always true. Given that to work with, if you need to improve the team from outside the organization then you might have to engage in the free agency market. Ellsbury is not a sure thing, but he has shown in multiple years that he can be a fringe star to star player. He is a first division centerfielder and he might be a first division left fielder.<br /><br />That said...the team would be maximizing payroll on one commodity instead of spreading out risk among several players like Jeff suggests.Jon Shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-33649027515874844632013-09-30T17:16:39.085-04:002013-09-30T17:16:39.085-04:00This article was only about the center field posit...This article was only about the center field position, so I won't comment on 2B or DH -- other Depot writers will be doing that. Anyway, the Ellsbury comment, as I mentioned, is more of a pipe dream anyway. The O's aren't going to pay him what he's going to command, but it'd be hard to argue that his speed, defense, and skills at the plate wouldn't be a strong upgrade.<br /><br />Still, I agree. It would be risky.Matt Kremnitzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15693430925266947705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-24927749873331722072013-09-30T16:40:08.093-04:002013-09-30T16:40:08.093-04:00Sorry but I think the idea of signing the oft-inju...Sorry but I think the idea of signing the oft-injured Ellsbury to play CF is a mistake. He would be a huge gamble at the type of money he will command and really a sideways if not downward move. The help at the top of the lineup needs to come from the second base position. A solid player who can work counts and draw walks, slap out some singles and doubles, steal 25 bases and score 95 runs all while playing a solid second base. Next up a DH is critical to offensive success. In 2013 the O's utilized many solid bench players in the DH spot, but these guys simply aren't DH's. And Brian Roberts DHing ... it's novel but still weak. Two starting pitchers and two relievers are on the wish list too! 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