tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post5437485322094202565..comments2024-01-06T02:22:33.000-05:00Comments on Camden Depot: Orioles Pull Off a Confusing Trade With the DodgersJon Shepherdhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-12449576658566326922015-04-14T07:33:21.297-04:002015-04-14T07:33:21.297-04:00Webb is the best player in the deal...that is why ...Webb is the best player in the deal...that is why it is so obviously the Orioles selling their draft pick for 2.75 million.Timnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-46695207117125936152015-04-13T21:22:38.312-04:002015-04-13T21:22:38.312-04:00The "best player in the trade" was immed...The "best player in the trade" was immediately waived by the Dodgers, so I'm not sure how many would agree with that statement in this article.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-2314897895963063832015-04-13T15:13:54.254-04:002015-04-13T15:13:54.254-04:00I agree that this trade is really minor and probab...I agree that this trade is really minor and probably won't change much, but the worst part to me isn't necessarily even the loss of pick #74. It's the loss of the money associated with pick #74, which decreases the team's flexibility in the draft.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05119567934749982333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-59866061019122084782015-04-13T11:49:58.510-04:002015-04-13T11:49:58.510-04:00I agree it is about getting rid of the money. The...I agree it is about getting rid of the money. They got a pitcher who was DFA'd and released. They got a dime a dozen organizational catcher. Those are not assets of much meaning regardless of options. Team already has in-house options for players like that. Is Rowen really in front of guys like Mike Wright and the rest in Norfolk? Is O'Brien really in front of the options in Norfolk and with Wieters eventually coming back.<br /><br />People need to stop rationalizing Duquette and believing every word he says. They sold a draft pick for 2.75 million.Timnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-52974193712080485982015-04-13T11:02:37.608-04:002015-04-13T11:02:37.608-04:00They could have rectified the roster flexibility c...They could have rectified the roster flexibility concern by getting rid of Webb and keeping the draft pick. The money involved mattered in this deal. Perhaps the Orioles really like the two players they acquired. Maybe there's some master plan with another trade or two down the road. But just because players are younger and have options doesn't mean they'll be able to help the major league team. <br /><br />It's most likely this deal won't amount to much. But I find it perplexing.Matt Kremnitzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15693430925266947705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-4311415810526925992015-04-13T10:41:10.717-04:002015-04-13T10:41:10.717-04:00This deal is about roster flexibility. Duquette pu...This deal is about roster flexibility. Duquette puts a premium on it. He traded a RHP for a younger RHP with options. He traded a AAA catcher for a younger catcher with options. It cost the 74th pick and pool money to increase his ability to juggle the roster throughout this season. A task he has proven to be a master of these last few years.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09095761527100336612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-90681780360392797032015-04-13T06:50:52.232-04:002015-04-13T06:50:52.232-04:00It's interesting to me how many fans are fine ...It's interesting to me how many fans are fine with the O's giving up a top 75 draft pick for a couple million dollars.Matt Kremnitzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15693430925266947705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-45470566716051109052015-04-12T16:10:49.769-04:002015-04-12T16:10:49.769-04:00That's $2.75 m more payroll we can absorb in J...That's $2.75 m more payroll we can absorb in July.Statistics Don't Lienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-51847629378505224702015-04-12T11:28:09.830-04:002015-04-12T11:28:09.830-04:00I agree. It is like the Morse Avery deal. The chan...I agree. It is like the Morse Avery deal. The chance for a future impact was very slight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-57189526083051477802015-04-11T14:36:37.786-04:002015-04-11T14:36:37.786-04:00This trade will have little to no impact on what h...This trade will have little to no impact on what happens this season, and maybe beyond. BJ Rassamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-28539152675820455592015-04-10T11:05:02.624-04:002015-04-10T11:05:02.624-04:00Matusz was a shutdown reliever in the second half....Matusz was a shutdown reliever in the second half. Perhaps the better question is why they signed Wright at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-933289078590068822015-04-10T10:30:52.877-04:002015-04-10T10:30:52.877-04:00Doesn't this trade render all the more inexpli...Doesn't this trade render all the more inexplicable the decision to tender Matusz to a contract?<br />He was lousy before arbitration and now he's lousy and expensive, and the Orioles already had signed Wesley Wright( I think)<br />Philipnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-48349614052212440832015-04-10T10:16:03.025-04:002015-04-10T10:16:03.025-04:00I read in a lot of places how the draft pick is a ...I read in a lot of places how the draft pick is a player who likely will not amount to much. This is probable. However, this does not mean that draft picks are without value. The players moving around mean nothing. Absolutely nothing. A minor league free agent and a guy who barely fits on an organization's top 30 list are just organization filler. This all comes down to the Orioles dumping 3.5 million. It is about money flexibility now and sacrificing a lottery ticket that might help in a couple years in a trade or in several more years on the team. That has value. Money dump. Plain and simple.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-13173759559023196632015-04-10T10:09:49.250-04:002015-04-10T10:09:49.250-04:00The money ($2.75 Million)for Webb was about to spe...The money ($2.75 Million)for Webb was about to spent anyway when he reached the end of his 10 Day DFA Limbo. The draft pool money was somewhat added to with the loss of Cruz and the pick garnered from that.<br /><br />I see this move as the precursor to another which may or may not involve Clevenger/Matusz. If not than it did nothing to help the Forty Man Roster situation and lack of players that can be "Optioned". Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-91589844571083358902015-04-10T09:08:32.040-04:002015-04-10T09:08:32.040-04:00If they are that strapped for cash....well they...If they are that strapped for cash....well they're in serious trouble. Is Angelos seriously worried about TV $$?<br /><br />I cant imagine the O's are anywhere near a losing venture, so this is incredibly perplexing.<br /><br />You see moves like this from the Marlins...not the Orioles. I find it incredibly discouraging. <br /><br />As you noted, the O's didnt have to spend the draft pool cash, but it helps with leverage in signing an "above slot" draftee....terribleAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11838878318074656801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-89845013851846685922015-04-10T08:18:35.671-04:002015-04-10T08:18:35.671-04:00Usually a team will want to keep draft pool money ...Usually a team will want to keep draft pool money to give them flexibility (I don't believe they HAVE to spend all of it), so that's why I didn't include it at the end of the article. But if they actually are THAT strapped for cash, maybe I should have.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05119567934749982333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-32959468552748338232015-04-10T07:15:07.888-04:002015-04-10T07:15:07.888-04:00When you add in the draft pick...the team saved 3....When you add in the draft pick...the team saved 3.5 million. Orioles are not cheap, but they surely have a budget and are maxing it out...future be damned.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com