tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post453251637181006896..comments2024-01-06T02:22:33.000-05:00Comments on Camden Depot: In what cities could MLB expand?Jon Shepherdhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-67036803931604055072014-09-19T16:19:53.992-04:002014-09-19T16:19:53.992-04:00Connecticut will never bring the infrastructure up...Connecticut will never bring the infrastructure up to snuff, even with a multi-trillion dollar surplus. It is geographically the 3rd smallest state and there is simply no place to put the proposed new infrastructure. <br /><br />My 2 cities would be Mexico City and Brooklyn. You could get the Mets to agree to creating a rival in Brooklyn if you did what they did with Baltimore/Washington where both teams are on SNY and revenue is split 50-50 regardless which team is more popular. Mexico City--it is an idea who's time as come. Foro Sol can be expanded for ML capacity and need not be larger than 35,000. The only difficulty is the rate of exchange from peco to dollar and how that would affect salaries of those on the MC team.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-14059947219084492532014-08-12T08:06:07.268-04:002014-08-12T08:06:07.268-04:00Mexico City is a rough location because of travel ...Mexico City is a rough location because of travel time, lack of infrastructure, lack of a decent playing facility, and a population/corporate atmosphere that does not have the financial power of a place like Montreal or Vancouver.<br /><br />Good ideas though.Jon Shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-40781638252557855852014-08-11T12:32:57.103-04:002014-08-11T12:32:57.103-04:00I know this is a really old post but feel like chi...I know this is a really old post but feel like chiming in. I think putting a team in Charlotte (specifically the North Eastern corner of the city) would be a big hit and could pull from large parts of NC within an hours drive as well as parts of SC. As for the second team, I think either expanding to Mexico City (via expansion team or relocation) should happen before Canada gets a second team. I say move the Padres there and watch the fan support.Rboggs81https://www.blogger.com/profile/09526319677304828242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-54222821536830734862014-01-27T14:12:55.919-05:002014-01-27T14:12:55.919-05:00Did anyone ever think about Louisville kentucky? W...Did anyone ever think about Louisville kentucky? We have always been a baseball town and currently host the Louisville Bats (AAA Afilliate for the Reds) and finish in the top 5 in attendants each year (for minor league clubs) and a 800,000 metro area population. I attended some reds games this year and asked 20 people if there was a major league baseball team in Louisville, would u attend? 18 said yes. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-84173537048899981112013-12-12T16:20:30.766-05:002013-12-12T16:20:30.766-05:00population and income levels should be secondary t...population and income levels should be secondary to fan base. LasVegas and Portland would NEVER work. Those cities are not baseball towns. Portland lost its minor league team and Vegas' team is on life support. Expansion should be in cities that have crazy fans to support them even when the teams suck. My suggestions would be, Montreal, CAN. and Monterrey, MEX to start. Both cities have averaged over 900,000 in attendance per season for baseball. Other places worth mentioning..... Mexico City. Omaha,NE. Durham, NC. and how about finally shutting down Guantanamo Bay prison and building a mlb caliber stadium in Cuba!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-68962670875141419922012-08-30T23:05:52.415-04:002012-08-30T23:05:52.415-04:00MEXICO CITYMEXICO CITYAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-42404326433337755902012-08-13T16:57:30.924-04:002012-08-13T16:57:30.924-04:00Why not Syracuse NY with cities that surround us l...Why not Syracuse NY with cities that surround us like Buffalo, Rochester, Elmira, Binghamton, Ithica, and Watertown why not we can use Alliance Bank Stadium (11,011 capacity) or transfer the dome (49,054)And people would definetly want to see teams like the Mets, Yankees, Phillies, Redsox, and Braves. Syracuse already has a Major Indoor Soccer team and The packers play in Green Bay and they have 200,000 less people than Syracuse and with all the cities within 200 miles there are prabably 7 or 8 mil living up here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-59238361910344960462012-07-30T22:53:24.406-04:002012-07-30T22:53:24.406-04:00It's about the money with the emotion. Tampa ...It's about the money with the emotion. Tampa Bay was kind of a bonehead expansion and after that MLBig buck$ will likely be more careful. Emotion and money. I think having Havana any time soon would all but kill Miami if not Tampa franchise too. Big Cuban populations there. Bye-bye: Vancouver in the NBA and Atlanta in the NHL. Montreal will again, with a better stadium, in a decade or two. But expansion is probably going to be awhile off. http://www.bizjournals.com/bizjournals/on-numbers/scott-thomas/2011/08/baseball-has-few-options-for-expansion.html?appSession=91998886644975&RecordID=&PageID=2&PrevPageID=&cpipage=1&CPISortType=&CPIorderBy=Paullyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12121714117151493741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-4094647226302011602012-07-30T09:26:23.846-04:002012-07-30T09:26:23.846-04:00One HUGE elephant in the room of expansion that is...One HUGE elephant in the room of expansion that is always overlooked... and will be until certain policies/politics change:<br /><br />Havana, Cuba.<br /><br />MLB WILL expand/relocate there ASAP as soon as no one named 'Castro' is in power down there. Way too much possible revenue and a RABID fanbase for the game.<br /><br />I predict within a decade, a new member of the AL East will join (or Tampa Rays will relocate there).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-87896533656276989742012-07-30T09:19:08.216-04:002012-07-30T09:19:08.216-04:00Portland or Vancouver are MUCH higher on the list ...Portland or Vancouver are MUCH higher on the list for relocation/expansion to give Seattle and the AL West better competition. Right now, Seattle has the longest road trips of any other team, as the closest team they play are the A's in Oakland (and that will get further if they move to San Jose). The Mariners will push for someone else in the PacNW, and rightfully so. If the Astros can get moved from NL to AL to help the Rangers, expansion/relocation will look to Portland/Vancouver.<br /><br />Charlotte is a hugely expanding market, and isn't TOO close to other markets, so it will be considered. The South in general is a much faster developing area in population, so pretty much any large urban area in Dixie will be considered--save for Orlando & New Orleans. I wouldn't be surprised if Memphis is considered in the future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-36548716834833753432012-07-29T14:49:12.448-04:002012-07-29T14:49:12.448-04:00It's too easy for people in areas around India...It's too easy for people in areas around Indianapolis to go north to Chicago, southeast to Cincinnati, or southwest to St Louis. Charlotte on the other hand would only lose some of its southwest surrounding area to Atlanta. The rest of the Charlotte surrounding area would have to go well out of their way to choose something other than Charlotte.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-85608682245745850452012-07-20T13:31:43.305-04:002012-07-20T13:31:43.305-04:00It's been studied in recent years. Portland i...It's been studied in recent years. Portland is the only viable option. Baseball by leaps and bounds requires more money than the other sports. Touristy places like Vegas and Florida (nomad lands) would probably have more Yankees fans than anything else. San Antone wants the NFL and the oil cities aren't having it. Bringing Monterrey, Mexico (big with proximity to the U.S.) might be successful also.Paullyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12121714117151493741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-52983048563645004522012-07-03T13:15:32.888-04:002012-07-03T13:15:32.888-04:00I liked the article. Like Vancouver. Disagree ab...I liked the article. Like Vancouver. Disagree about Montreal. Think it would be a good place for a MLB team. I believe Ottawa is in the process of getting a AAA team, if they haven't done so already. Dont call them the Expos, though. Should be a name reflecting the French culture in Quebec. Charlotte seems like a given, but why not just a bit north in Raleigh/Durham area. Will get more of the entire state of North Carolina and possibly folks from Virginia as well to support the team. Other cities I like: Mexico City,MX; Monterrey,MX; ROCHESTER, NY-halfway between Buffalo and Syracuse (Texas Rangers doing quite well in lil' Arlington halfway between Dallas and Ft.Worth. Recently the Cowboys even moved there); Sacramento,CA (but the A's would have to move out); Baton Rouge,LA; and Birmingham,AL.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-55939261108047900752012-06-26T21:28:18.074-04:002012-06-26T21:28:18.074-04:00The AA stadium in Norwich, CT (eastern CT near bot...The AA stadium in Norwich, CT (eastern CT near both casinos) can be expanded while a proper stadium is built, similar to what they did in Texas when the Senators/Ranges moved there. And we tried to build a stadium for the Patriots in the late 90's, with public money, so I'd say we can build a ball park in Hartford on the river.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-70583043024564944762012-06-24T16:15:41.457-04:002012-06-24T16:15:41.457-04:00I would use Metro population over city population ...I would use Metro population over city population when doing these comparisons. I would also put Austin in over San Antonio. Same amount of people, but much more money in Austin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-39483808180495302732012-06-13T12:52:49.289-04:002012-06-13T12:52:49.289-04:00Oh come on, nobody wanted a team in his home marke...Oh come on, nobody wanted a team in his home market less than Angelos, but the league still strongarmed him into it. Putting team(s) in the northest region would just make too much sense. Is it logical to have 3 teams that are right next to each other each in the top 3 in revenue, and to be talking about putting MORE teams in regions that will be begging for revenue sharing money?<br /><br />The only places worth mentioning are: Brooklyn, North Jersey, Connecticut, Upstate NY/Buffalo, force the Yankees to share a stadium with a new team, or even finding a way to put a stadium in Manhattan (which would cripple the Yankees, why go through Harlem and into the Bronx when there's already a place to go in the city?)<br /><br />Putting teams where they'll thrive and not letting certain teams having monopolies of the best areas is the best way to instill competitive balance. It should be supply/demand.Voice of Reasonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-11270133483637508292012-06-05T02:22:09.065-04:002012-06-05T02:22:09.065-04:00"Charlotte is where the Charlotte Panthers pl..."Charlotte is where the Charlotte Panthers play, not the Jaguars."<br /><br />My head just exploded.<br /><br />And why would an owner NOT want to get South Carolinian's money as well? Charlotte is the obvious answer... could the AAA park could not be expanded to a pro style stadium ?<br /><br />It would be asinine to put an MLB team in Raleigh over Charlotte, but with the Bobcats (NBA) there I just don't see Charlotte being able to support 3 pro teams. Maybe the Bobcats will move to KC or something and the city will shift its focus to luring a pro ball team.<br /><br />People here would be all about a Charlotte team...although there are a TON of Yankees and Red Sox and Braves fans... going to a Carolina/Red Sox game would be embarrassing as there would probalby be more Boston fans in the first few years...<br /><br />But in time, Charlotte would hop on board with pro baseballl....it would be something that could last and grow with the city (as Charlotte and NC are only growing)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-56620223135232183352012-05-24T00:37:00.529-04:002012-05-24T00:37:00.529-04:00what about honolulu great attendance during the su...what about honolulu great attendance during the summer with all the vacationers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-3998908540944476102012-05-21T14:02:48.732-04:002012-05-21T14:02:48.732-04:00I'm curious to see how New Orleans would stack...I'm curious to see how New Orleans would stack up to the front-runners like Charlotte and Indy. Was any data available to compare? The Big Easy didn't initially register to me as a city that should get a MLB team but reading a piece over at http://www.ranker.com/list/cities-that-should-have-a-baseball-team/the-round-mound made me think about it more. Now I can't get it out of my head. They have a great NFL team and an NBA team. I can't really see hockey working in that climate but there's no reason to think that baseball wouldn't. Thoughts?Jessenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-12836145964033603822012-02-07T23:32:07.600-05:002012-02-07T23:32:07.600-05:00For the record, Charlotte is home to the Carolina ...For the record, Charlotte is home to the Carolina Panthers, not the Jacksonville Jaguars or the Charlotte Panthers. <br /><br />Having that said, I would LOVE for a team to make it to NC. As a lifelong O's fan from MD who moved to NC as a kid, the lack of pro ball in this state is disappointing at best. Charlotte is the obvious first choice due to its median location between BAL/DC and ATL, population, and corporate presence. <br /><br />While I hate any sport being played in a stadium that wasn't designed specifically for it, Bank of America Stadium would work well while a new stadium was build next door. There is a great section of mostly empty/abandoned real estate in Uptown Charlotte directly adjacent to BofA Stadium. What worries me is that as of this fall, that section of land has been tagged for the construction of a new AAA ballpark for the Charlotte Knights. It is still in the planning stages and the main guy blocking it is known to have plans for an MLB team in Charlotte, but It definitely wouldn't happen if the minor league park was already built.<br /><br />What do you think about Raleigh? I don't know of a stadium off hand where they could play immediately, but if an owner isn't trying to gain SC fans then it works best as a central location for NC.<br /><br />Sorry for being so longwinded.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-5270105315778408762012-02-04T17:28:27.196-05:002012-02-04T17:28:27.196-05:00Relevance is arguable.
I do understand what you a...Relevance is arguable.<br /><br />I do understand what you are writing. Based on what I know, I don't think it informs the issue to a great degree.<br /><br />Maybe I am wrong. I do appreciate the comments because it is something that should be acknowledged if not discussed further. However, I do not see it as undermining the points being made above.Jon Shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-81094918987288015402012-02-04T16:51:56.146-05:002012-02-04T16:51:56.146-05:00The populations that you cited were just for the c...The populations that you cited were just for the cities--- not hte metropolitan areas, which is the more relevant fact. Instead, see:<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_United_States_Metropolitan_Statistical_AreasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-44427832357775463172012-02-03T09:44:41.312-05:002012-02-03T09:44:41.312-05:00Another problem with Las Vegas is that an extremel...Another problem with Las Vegas is that an extremely large percentage of residents work at night and weekends when games are played. A much higher percentage than any other city.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-64410278050137409722012-02-03T08:22:19.728-05:002012-02-03T08:22:19.728-05:00I think the most important thing to keep in mind i...I think the most important thing to keep in mind is that these cities are going to have to find private money to fund the bulk of the stadium costs (by "bulk" I mean 75%-plus), because no municipality will be able to convince its population to approve publicly financed a sports stadium/arena when funds are being cut for school, public health, police, fire, sanitation, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-32372640955690863212012-02-03T05:58:29.424-05:002012-02-03T05:58:29.424-05:00New Orleans can use the Superdome for a while as i...New Orleans can use the Superdome for a while as it was constructed with the idea that a baseball team could use it. Though, I think it has been able 30 years since any team actually has entertained the idea. <br /><br />From memory, Louisiana has one of the smaller media markets and a population under half a million. I think only Entergy is there in terms of major corporations. I wonder if there is really enough money to go around to provide enough support for 81 home games.Jon Shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.com