tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post1835681175078275260..comments2024-01-06T02:22:33.000-05:00Comments on Camden Depot: Would You Be Happy With Carlos Gonzalez And Jason Vargas?Jon Shepherdhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-15251480933889177902017-11-05T18:11:01.792-05:002017-11-05T18:11:01.792-05:00OK, Jon, I was a little hyberbolic. And I know yo...OK, Jon, I was a little hyberbolic. And I know you guys were not in favor of the Trumbo signing either as he was largely a duplicative piece with little overall value due to his defense.<br /><br />To "Unknown", Cain is way too expensive and would prevent Orioles from aggressively pursuing FA pitchers. The O's need to stick to 1-3 year contracts in case Machado cannot be re-signed and the team needs to be rebuilt.<br /><br />Santander does have a lot of potential. He is young (22) and needs more seasoning, but to keep him, we need to follow the Rule 5 rules. I am quite sure he will go down to AAA or AA after 45 days. He'll be a good complement for Hays/Mancini/Mullins once they are all ready to play in the bigs - especially if AJ is not re-signed, too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-73267068748215140342017-11-05T15:39:52.513-05:002017-11-05T15:39:52.513-05:00"No confidence" is an overstatement beca..."No confidence" is an overstatement because we thought Mancini should get a shot over Trumbo last season.Jon Shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03521809778977098687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-52241830045347540502017-11-05T14:31:38.104-05:002017-11-05T14:31:38.104-05:00Yes I agree. I misunderstood your comment. We are ...Yes I agree. I misunderstood your comment. We are in the same page, I think.<br />We don't need what CarGo offers, and the money is better spent elsewhere, which means that Dan will bring him on board by Wednesday.Piphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02853470978165087046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-84689997300914094372017-11-05T12:32:38.734-05:002017-11-05T12:32:38.734-05:00Honestly, if I'm paying for a position player,...Honestly, if I'm paying for a position player, I go for Cain. Speed, some pop, excellent defense. Sorry, AJ. You are moving to right. Your below avg CF defense likely becomes well above avg defense in right. You can play as shallow as you like. No more trying to shag a 400 ft fly ball. If the ball is hit that far to right you aren't catching it anyway. Dyson would be a great pick up too. Otherwise, spend on pitching.Rob Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06155113256041197526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-87852407012073947792017-11-05T12:07:37.658-05:002017-11-05T12:07:37.658-05:00Not confident Santander has any enduring qualities...Not confident Santander has any enduring qualities. I say buy 3 pitchers to replace 3 and extend Machado. Rest of current team is fine.Benanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02302112887903059586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-25365489046994669382017-11-05T09:08:36.814-05:002017-11-05T09:08:36.814-05:00Actually, I'm advocating signing Dyson (or Jay...Actually, I'm advocating signing Dyson (or Jay as a Plan B) - the O's should stay far away from C. Gonzalez. I think there is no chance Mullins is promoted this year- he'll need some time at AAA. I had the same thought, though, that Trumbo was a backstop to Mancini not making it. The bloggers here had no confidence that Mancini would succeed (bat was too slow). If they sign Dyson and have to keep Santander for 45 days then Hays will start in AAA. Hays will be brought up if Santander is sent down (likely) or Trumbo is traded or they institute a 1B/DH platoon with Trumbo/Davis/Mancini.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-39788344344508027282017-11-04T14:02:51.473-04:002017-11-04T14:02:51.473-04:00Roger, A good outfield is a need for us, but it ...Roger, A good outfield is a need for us, but it won't come from gonzalez. according to fan graphs, Carlos Gomez was a negative defender at all three outfield positions last year. He was also a negative at the plate, and away from Coors field, he hit 203. I do not know whether you are advocating signing him, but I think it would be a bad idea to do so, especially at the projected price. There's every possibility that Mancini will be stable, Hayes will break camp with the club, Mullins will arrive during the summer( depending on how the team is doing) and the risk of signing CarGo outweighs both the benefits, and the need. <br />If Dan had trusted Mancini, he might not have re-signed Trumbo. <br />It's good to avoid a repeat.Piphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02853470978165087046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-1505681145361315842017-11-04T10:06:55.728-04:002017-11-04T10:06:55.728-04:00Golly, why would the O's go for speed and defe...Golly, why would the O's go for speed and defense with a little OBP thrown in when they could have a decrepit power hitter for more money??? *sarcasm dripping*Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-31909098805007375982017-11-04T09:56:03.047-04:002017-11-04T09:56:03.047-04:00It was an MLB Trade Rumors prediction, and it'...It was an MLB Trade Rumors prediction, and it's maybe a little high. But for anyone taking a chance on him, the hope would be that he could return to form. I would be skeptical and hope they look elsewhere.Matt Kremnitzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15693430925266947705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-61079183311772773952017-11-03T16:28:15.434-04:002017-11-03T16:28:15.434-04:00Matt, I looked up Carlos Gonzalez at fan graphs, a...Matt, I looked up Carlos Gonzalez at fan graphs, and he's pretty dreadful on both sides of the ball, and away from Coors Field he hit .203 this past season.<br />In the two years previous he was about a 2 1/2 win player, but there doesn't seem to be any reason why he would be worth $12 million for a single season, because he doesn't appear to offer anything. Do you know what the reasoning was in fan graphs suggesting that he might end up with the Orioles? Yes he's left-handed, but that's hardly a reason to pony up 12 million bucks. Piphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02853470978165087046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-44803376285156378752017-11-03T13:43:53.508-04:002017-11-03T13:43:53.508-04:00A root canal and a crwon?A root canal and a crwon?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05655243516414448784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2893512317902577458.post-59427929276987595822017-11-03T10:10:00.013-04:002017-11-03T10:10:00.013-04:00To answer the title question ..... NO WAY!!!! Jus...To answer the title question ..... NO WAY!!!! Just about every blueprint written here was better than that. WRT Baltimore and DD, I think the article reeks of MLBTR thinking that DD can't (or won't) play with the big boys. I mean, really, which would you rather have - Ubaldo at 4/$50M or Cobb for 4/$48M? And the prices for Util/Platoon types listed are better than anything BORAS projected. At those prices, you'd want to jump all over them. Why in all that's decent would you take Vargas at 1/$10M (or Tillman at 1/$10M) when you could get J. Garcia at 2/$16M or Chatwood at 3/$20M???? If you want a LH DH, sign Pedro for the minimum plus a bag of peanuts. Dyson at 2/$12M? A steal. Nunez at 2/$14M? Another steal. If you could sign Garcia, Chatwood, Dyson, and Nunez for those prices, you could still fit a one year Tillman in the budget. You could platoon Davis and Trumbo without any hesitation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com